He added that physical and psychological damages “inflicted on each individual of the Iranian nation in the 2nd and 3rd imposed wars, from child killings and war crimes in Minab and Lamerd to attacks on medical centres, is each a legal file that must be pursued in both domestic and international courts.”

He further stated that from the “murder” of newborns and the elderly to the assassination of his father and predecessor, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, “each is a file among thousands of major legal cases that must be earnestly pursued in domestic and international courts”.

“What is definite is that these criminals must be seized by the collar and brought to justice for their criminal deeds,” he asserted.

Never in my life could I have expected to agree with the Iranian government. But, on this specific issue? I do. There needs to be accountability for this.

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      No women was beheaded for driving a car. It was the saudis who used to prohibit women from driving and beheading was not the punishement. Those beheafing non muslim is isis not Iran. Fuck off with your islamophobia.

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        A woman singer Parastoo Ahmadi was just sentenced to 74 lashes for singing without hijab.

        You guys act like this is a game and I’m so tired of it. I’m a woman. A woman is going to be publicly brutalized for singing in public without religious garb. It’s incredibly messed up that you guys can do whatever you want and hide behind Islamophobia.

        Do you actually think that womens’ rights in Iran are upheld as they should be?

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          The user said women get beheaded for driving a car in Iran which was false. It conflated saudi arabia with isis with iran which is islamophobic. Talking about women how many women was killed and raped with the west support in palestine, sudan ,libya etc?

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            The difference between you and me is that I’m talking about the oppression of women because I care and because it matters, and you are using it as a political talking point.

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              Israel kill women daily with the west support. You are a hypocrite with selective outrage . I never said it is ok to punish people for not respecting an extreme view of a religion, i simply reject spreaing lies like women getting killed for driving in Iran

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                Fair enough. One of my close friends is Iranian but lives in the US now and she spent a couple days in prison for not covering her hair properly so I guess I’m sensitive about it. My bad

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              Aren’t israelis jews. Does every jew because a colonizer stealing land and opressing palestinians? If i believed that i would be antisemetic because i generalized jews. Doing the same to muslim is islamophobic

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                Wasn’t talking about individual Muslims. Was talking about nations that are Islamic states and follow Sharia law. They all seems to be restrictive on personal rights especially if you happen to be a woman or lgbt.

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              Think of it like this…

              The Catholic Church just agreed to pay $700M for child sexual abuse.

              Are you going to attack the local Methodist minister because “Hey, they’re all Christian…”?

              It doesn’t work that way.

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                Well sure, if the local Methodist minister had a rule book that said child sex abuse is OK. Maybe it does, considering how often it happens. I wasn’t talking about individual Muslims. Was talking about nations that are Islamic states and follow Sharia law. They all seems to be restrictive on personal rights especially if you happen to be a woman or lgbt. It’s a growing issue with a lot of different cultures these days but i personally think its a bit disingenuous to suggest its islamaphobic to highlight the treatment of women in Islamic states

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                  Fortunately they are not all the same. For example, there is no comparison between the Taliban in Afghanistan with the UAE.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates

                  When it comes to complaints about Islam, notably stuff like “Honor” killings and such, that is not part of the faith or the Koran. It’s a primitive tribal belief system that’s a holdover from before Islam existed.

                  https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Honor_Killing

                  So, no, you can’t paint them all with the same brush.

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                    And yet all islamic states seem to do horrible things to women / lgbt based on religious tenants.
                    Just because some are less bad than others doesn’t mean it isn’t a pattern. Your own wiki link includes this near the start

                    There are, however, punishments for various types of Zina (unlawful sexual relations) in Islamic law. Zina includes both fornication (when they are unmarried), for which the punishment is flogging, and adultery (when they are married, but not to each other), for which the punishment is death by stoning.

                    I guess that it might be unfair to paint with the exact some brush but its a brush that looks quite similar for each of them.

                    UAE does seem to be partly an exception to this however there are still things such as

                    Emirati law requires women to obtain a male guardian’s consent to marry. Additionally, a husband has legal rights to request his wife’s obedience, and women can be deemed “disobedient” if they take outside employment without their husband’s consent Etc

                    It’s probably more of a fundamentalist state issue than only Islamic states but it doesn’t change the end result

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      they behead people for not being their faith

      What are you referring to? Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians have official representation in the state.

      women not covering their entire bodies

      I haven’t heard of this practice in Iran, even less of the government forcing it on women, and clearly not beheading them for it.

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        They do detain, torture, and kill women who do not cover their hair completely and dress “modestly.” This is well-established fact.

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          I remember reading that women in Iran could get away with wearing the veil in a way that partly reveal their hair. I don’t know if this has changed with the recent events. All the stories of persecution I’ve read seemed to be about women who had their hair completely free.

          But in any case, this is beyond the point I’ve made. Even if women in Iran have to completly cover their hair, it’s not a full body cover like we see in Afghanistan.

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            Yeah it’s not Afghanistan but in Iran it’s subject to a lot of interpretation on the part of the police and if they want to harass you they can take you in for the tiniest slip of your head covering. It’s still horrible even if not as draconian.

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      They are a horrendous society and government, but a clock with dead batteries is still right twice a day.

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        To judge an entire society as “horrendous” just isn’t acceptable. That is where the liberals intersect with the fascists. It’s a society, people are born, grow up, live, learn, love, play, fall in love, grow, marry, make babies and raise them, grow old. 92 Million people. Their society has problems.

        Who are you to judge them as horrendous? Who are you to aid and give cause to genocidal invaders to destroy their country, their livelihoods, their progress? To bomb them back in time? They were making progress in many areas.

        It’s not just Trump who is responsible, it’s everyone who is pushing these overly broad talking points.

        Do you think meddling and interfering through NGOs has positive effects on their “freedoms”? Or negative effects? Just leave them alone, they can sort it out themselves.

        All of this is imperialism because there are many countries like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan who is a geopolitical allies. We all need to demand less interference in other countries from our own governments and our allies.

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        Sure although the Israelis are significantly worse. Israel is actively wiping out entire ethnicities based on racist supremacy, lies, rape and murder, to steal land. Israel also threatens unrelated countries with their “samson option” nuclear doctrine. Iran doesnt even come close to that level of evil. Not even in the same league.