Its actually not racism to call them orcs. Its actually super valid to fearmonger about how the evil slavic horde is just foaming at the mouth ready to invade the entire world, despite the fact France has invaded more places since the 90s.
Misuse of the word “racist” aside, if you’re generalizing about the inherent qualities of the Russian people, that’s still bigotry. If you’re calling out negative aspects of their laws, government, or culture, that’s not bigotry, that’s constructive criticism. If you’re pointing out the mistakes of their history that’s education to bring awareness and hoodlums prevent recurrence. If you’re calling all speech that is negative in any way about Russia “russophobia”, or “racism”, regardless of the nature of that speech, then you’re a Russian apologist and stooge.
It’s pretty simple: speech that displays mistrust, dislike, or hate for the inherent traits of a people is bigotry. Speech that displays mistrust, dislike, or hate for ideals and actions is just disagreement/politics.
Can’t wait till they find out Putin is a lib and the West’s last friend in Russia
Exactly, this is something most people in the west don’t seem to grasp. Putin is as pro western as it gets in Russia, and the main criticism of him is that he’s not pursuing the war hard enough. If he somehow did get ousted, it’s almost certain that he’d be replaced by somebody far more hardline.
But we have to keep warmongering because Slava Ukraini…worked out so well last time
But that is not the case, and you could measure the hypocrisy using cold hard data. Just compare how liberals talk about the USA and USAians during the invasion of… well pick any, vs how liberal talk about Russia and Russians. It’s measurably different by like an order of magnitude. Not to speak of the governments reaction and sanctions and support for weapons. When I see lemmy liberals advocating for donating vast amount of weaponry to e.g. Iran I’ll reconsider. Actually advocating for that is probably illegal where you live though.
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Proving the meme correct, lmao
Idk I just find it weird how every time Ukraine blows Russian infrastructure all the anti ukraine and pro Russian memes show up
“Russian Infrastructure” and its murdered kids in a dormitory. ‘israel’ tier
I don’t see the connection, opposition to Kiev and critical support for Russia is an ongoing thing. You still proved OP correct by dehumanizing them.
it sounds like you need expand your news sources outside of the western echo chamber.
Why do you constantly make memes about fake scenarios that make you mad?
You’re like one of those MAGA raving lunatics making up stories about “liberals.” The only difference is that instead of also coming up with fake ragebait scenarios about trans and gay people you make up bullshit about other leftists like anarchists. Are you a fed? Are you purposefully trying to stir up division?
Step outside, take a breath, stop focusing on hatred and start focusing on building community with good people. It’ll make you happier and it’s much more effective praxis than whatever the hell this kind of posting is
The OP post is not a fake scenario. There are examples of liberals advocating for anti-Russian racism in this very thread. It’s rather amusing that you would compare OP to MAGA when the group that best represents the liberals in the meme are Blue MAGA (at least when it comes to USians, as there are countless frothing Russophobic Euro-libs too). This “division” is not being “stirred up” by OP, it is already a readily apparent and prominent source of political animosity in the real world as well as here on lemmy. The position a person takes on this issue also says a great deal about their understanding of geopolitics. Are you a fed, or are you really that ignorant?
My response is more an accumulation of frustration with OPs frequent posts which are almost always negative and often against constructed straw-man “anarchists”
Thats the division i was talking about.
As for blatant racism, Im sure there are people on lemmy who are racist but i haven’t run into any that i could remember. (There were no racist comments on this post when i initially commented)
Now just because I can’t remember seeing any doesn’t mean its not a problem; since im not Russian, its likely i dont notice it as much as someone who is russian would.
On that note, I can say that ive seen plenty of posts that are “racist” towards “amerikkkans” calling US citizens less than human or monsters or that “nothing of value would be lost” if a state or city in America was destroyed etc. especially from .ml and hexbear users.
My point of course is not that this equality makes it all justified or that racism or any sort of discrimination based on nationality/race/etc. is okay, but rather that i dont think the racism is due to being liberals. Tribalism is just a widespread human condition and you’re on a platform with humans.
Anyway the main point of my comment was to state my frustration with constant negative posts like this which stereotype or exaggerate the actions of others.
These posts don’t help with building unity. They dont help educate anyone. And so they dont solve any problem or serve any productive purpose. Instead they actually further drive tribalistic urges by pushing an us-vs-them situation, and most of the people engaging with posts like this wont be doing so for friendly or productive reasons. So the entire point of these kinds of posts is to further disharmony
Theres enough bad shit going on all around us constantly already, we don’t need any more drama stirred up internally. (Again most of my frustrations are with the frequency of OPs negative/agitation-focused memes not specifically this one in particular)
If you are dealing with racism or harassment of any kind or notice someone else facing the same, you should report it to the moderators
Yeah constructive criticism like calling them
the slavic hordethe vile hununtermenschenorcs or making up stories about them not having paved roads or flushing toilets. The enemy is weak and also strongHey mate jsyk i think you replied to the wrong comment
From the context im guessing you meant to reply to kryptonianCodeMonkey since he’s the only comment mentioning “constructive criticism”
Thanks for the heads up
this is about liberals, not anarchists or other leftist. although from my personal experience ive seen ultra leftists and anarchists do the same shit, pretty rarely tho
My dude is spiraling.
They are projecting racism? Against whom?
I think the implication is that strakitar is the one who is “spiraling,” not OP. Amnesigenic is not saying anything about projecting racism.
I like to use it as a kind of gauge. Every time this guy starts spamming we know Ukraine blew up a refinery or something. The more vocal they get, the more damage. But don’t engage too much, we mustn’t feed the trolls.
Taking note of the liberal penchant for frothing racism and hatred of Russians is always apropos because liberals have been continuously frothing with hatred of Russians, especially for the past four and half years. It has nothing to do with recent events, but it is rather telling that you would tie someone’s posting of a meme about continuous liberal racism to the latest Ukrainian atrocity (which was actually the mass murder of students, not just the usual destruction of civilian infrastructure), because yes, those Ukrainian crimes do happen with regularity too.
You take negative feedback as a positive because you’re in a cult. 8 years ago you would have been able to identify this trait in Trump supporters now you’re the same as them.
Go back to Reddit
Feel like we should defederate with them. They have nothing but dog shit takes designed to be divisive.
Lemmy.world can continue to isolate itself, slowly defederating from every leftist instance one by one until the echo chamber is complete, I suppose.
And then it’s just another Reddit
Already is tbh
Just go back to reddit.
