Well the gas would be cheaper if they could somehow make it contain advertising and data theft
Oh wait till you find out about how modern cars are mining your data, including facial recognition and reporting of you are having sex in the car! And the best part it’s all unregulated! Govt can simply buy the info for tracking even your Phone would be jealous of!
Never been happier to have a base model car from 2012
Never been happier to have a car that can’t even be sold in the US because it can’t connect to any form of network.
What car?
A Peugeot
That sounds like a pokemon
As someone who makes that software that does this, we can’t even figure out how to properly handle the data we actually want, like analytics to see if anyone actually uses the auto feature on your air conditioner. Nobody actually cares if you have sex in your car. Besides you’re on Lemmy we know your aren’t having sex.
Why is it all in the terms of service? Also there have there been numerous data leaks. The sex thing is from a specific manufacturer m’s TOS, but nonetheless
Sad accuracy noises
Well yea f course I’m not having sex, I’m on my phone at the kitchen table, where do you think I am, my car? (-)(-)
I love it when the government finds out when I have sex. It’s so romantic – just me, her, and the CIA.
It depends, if it out of the country it’s you, her, and the CIA, if it’s inside the US, it’s you, her, and the NSA
Sounds like a song title “it’s you, her, and the CIA”
It’s a party in the CIA
Sounds like something chef would sing.
Don’t know which one I prefer as a cuck tbh
Where in America do you have gas pumps that don’t have ad TVs or ask you for your zip code?
Very few of the ones around me have the built in ad players. Several stations blare ads (inevitably largely for themselves, curiously enough) over the PA system constantly, though.
The ZIP code thing is for credit card verification. I ask for that too, when you pay me by credit card. I don’t have a choice unless I’d like to enjoy zero fraud and chargeback protection.
Lots of places now
You don’t get ads on your gas pump?
They don’t exist in my country, and to be frank, I’m shocked the ones in the US aren’t vandalised to hell and back by masked vigilantes at night.
Ohh that is a great idea. We can put different markers in different brands and then detect those markers in a customer’s breath to tell what brand they are using on the fly.
Then when you develop cancer from exposure we can use this information to market other brands. After all, why would you use Shell gas if it gave you cancer when you could use Exxon instead.
Gas is cheaper than milk, Thats kinda fucked considering gasoline is finite
you think cows are infinite?
Yes it’s called breeding. You can’t breed more gasoline
Jurassic Park says otherwise 😉
it takes limited resources to breed the living beings youre talking about
Food and grass are also growable
so youre just going to act like you dont understand at all huh
How have TVs gotten so cheap. It’s gotta be shit.
I’m guessing it’s all advertising deals and spyware. Oh, and the TV is still shit.
Telly is a TV you can pre-order, which is completely free but apparently pays for itself with all the ads it will display lol
Nearly all tvs are smart tvs that make money with showing ads and selling data. Any loss on the hardware is made up on selling customer data and ad space. The tvs would be amazing if they didn’t come with smart features.
Is there any way to lobotomize these smart TVs? Even the specs on a cheaper mid-range would blow my current dinosaur out of the water
Never connect them to the internet
You want your favorite streaming service on there? Get an older (used office) PC, load it up with (your prefered flavor of) Linux, get a bluetooth keyboard mouse combo, hook it up to your HDMI port, and go ham.
Some TVs even let you turn them on directly to a specific HDMI port for a bonus fun time of never having to see the TVs menu.
Find out the streaming service limits the quality then stop paying for it and pirate that shit instead.
Don’t connect them to the internet.
True, I’ll probably end up going that route when this one dies (assuming they don’t all require sign in and heartbeats at that point)
Was hoping for something like a FOSS OS just for the convenience of keeping jellyfin up to date and cleaning up the useless baked in apps.
Use an external media player. Personally, I use a roku routed through a pihole.
Iv stared coming across some that’s not remotely an option. They require a logged in account before they accept any input.
If you attempt to use a DNS ad blocker they also just stop working. Its fucking toxic.
Right back to the store then.
Fuck around and get a charge back.
Wow. Fuck that.
I’m actually curious enough to buy one to see how bad they actually are now.
Not really, the smarts are integrated into the control circuitry. You can’t bypass them and turn them into simple, dumb displays.
Depending on the model, you can block the TV from the internet and leave it on set to one of the inputs and the smarts bits won’t bother you again. Other ones are more intrusive and pushy about it.
did this happen recently? i got mine in 2019 its enormous and all it does it turn on and lets me play xbox
2018 is about when it started but it was a very small number of tvs. By 2020 it was a common thing but it was a dedicated line of tvs from each brand. By 2024 it was all cheaper tvs basically. And now it’s basically every TV and even some monitors.
The non smart TVs are almost as hard to find now as finding a smart one was in 2018. And monitors are starting to have smart features and ads even among the highest end offerings. But unlike tvs they arnt any cheaper for it. Its stupid.
TV?No, it’s just a big display
TVs are made from components that are made through almost entirely automated processes at such large scales that the underlying raw material and cost of shipping become the main driver of cost. Paradoxically, that means that TVs that have gotten thinner and lighter use less material and therefore have a lower floor of how little it can cost.
Once a production line is set up to make the components, each additional one produced costs very little, so making high volume runs is the key: lots of shared parts between brands and models, very long production runs to minimize the cost of redesign or retooling or downtime.
They’re single use and throwaway, with the bonus of spyware. Like everything made today. Everything.
The tv should have always cost more. That’s part of the problem. America drunk on cheap consumer goods.
I disagree. America has heavy subsidies on gas prices.
Gas is a cheat code to decades of stored solar energy. It won’t be cheap for ever. Once you mine up all that shit it’s gone.
Look at WV and their coal. Use to have 12 ft coal seams. Now all that’s left are hard to reach low quality 1-2ft seams. At some point it’s not even worth the energy to extract.
There are people who believe the earth regenerates and creates more petroleum… In essence it will never run out
There’s probably a step g correlation to flat earthers
It will! Just not within human life spans that’s my answer usually. Alot of their thoughts are grounded in something real. Its easier then telling them they are flat out wrong usually.
Unless it’s the flat earthers
It probably won’t to my understanding. Most fossil fuels are from large organic material deposits (usually from plants) underwater or in low oxygen environments where they aren’t disturbed/don’t decompose. Basically the conditions for fossil fuels to be remade don’t exist anymore so we really aren’t getting any more
There’s definitely location on earth where they will get generate again. Plus climate change only really means the extinction of all human life as we know it. Everything else will carry on, it’s not the first large level extinction event.
The conditions that created it are likely to arise again. Most oil deposits are actually from innumerable numbers of planktonic life that built up on the ocean floor. Coal is from plant matter though.
Point is its generally easier to redirect then reprogram people, with enough nudges they’ll start to see they are being lied to, or at least will know not to bother you with that specific subject anymore
Visit Japan or the EU and their fuels prices make the USA cheap. It is odd in the USA, most people are concerned about fuel prices, but healthcare costs are far worse.
Healthcare is only for the weak. I am one if the elect; god loves me, so I won’t ever need to think about that.
Tell me about it. Why is cost of gas what we focus on
Because you pay for gas every couple days with your credit card, while you pay for healthcare rarely
Idk if I’m winning or losing as someone that pays for healthcare way more often then gas…
I can’t believe how cheap TVs are. I think I bought a 22” CRT 25 years ago and it was easily over $200.
E: a CPI check says a $220 monitor in 2000 is $435 today.
Yeah gas should be a lot more expensive.
I neither, can I pay double for the Tv without the poorly named smartness in it?
Now think about solar power.
I ride an ebike. Can someone explain the picture on the left? Is it some sort of tax booth for car ownership?
Your bike has zero impact on the environment. Good for you
The metals used in the frame and battery magically floated down from heaven. Also the tires and plastic parts weren’t used from petroleum …not at all
There was a recent article detailing how if you put a lot of miles on your ebike you’ll need to replace the battery and it’s surprisingly expensive.
But I agree with the other downvoters that you can’t just say “but bad thing” you have to put them into perspective. And your parent comment didn’t claim ebikes are perfect or even good. Just that they literally don’t use gas.
The production impact should be still smaller than the production of a motorbike
Are you paying for the cheap tv by bringing hostile spywear into your home?
It’s possible not, I suppose.
One of those doesn’t come loaded with ads.
Yes, I’ve heard, but you might still have a choice to fill up at one without ads, whereas with a TV like this you buy it and you’re set with ads for the time you have it.
Unless your gas pump has ads, or it’s a non-smart tv
I meant post purchase, i.e. fuel once it gets in your tank and the TV once you get it home, but yeah, you’re right too.
Companies that sell TV sets actually lose money on the sale. They make their profits by selling your data to advertising companies.
32” is tiny and even at $3 a gallon, that fill would be over $50.
I’m not really seeing the argument here tbh. It’s apples and oranges.
