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    Democrats have no intention of changing anything meaningful. We learned that when Obama had a supermajority and became a black Dubya, despite his extravagant progressive promises.

    Our only power is local now, and they know this, which is why they swift-boated Mamdani and ran a Democratic partisan against him.

    Yes, it will take a major disruption to necessitate any meaningful change at the national level.

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      Correct to answer OP, yes you can’t vote your way out of fascism. So we will need a war to get out of this mess.

      Then to the Democrats the current Democratic Party is already right of Regan. It’s that racket effect. Fuck up part if things keep going as business as usual. Then your next major Democratic candidates will be no different then Trump.

      But all that moot. Again we can’t vote our way out of this nightmare. And before 2030 we will all be living in hell run by oligarchy tecno bros. With all the AI data center sucking up all our water and they rounded up as much of the population that they can. Then it over.

      You think North Korea is bad wait until we are living in just that type of world in America were statues of Trump liter the country and anybody that doesn’t worship him is locked in a work camp.

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    Is reforms from Democrats enough?

    “They’ve got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side, but no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen”

    Huey Long, campaign speech for the re-election of Senator Hattie Caraway (D-AR), 1932

    Am I the only one that believe the US has to go through some sort of painful transition/civil war/revolution to fix it?

    No, you aren’t. I’m sorry you have to go through this hard way

    Sorry if my english is bad

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    Revolution is necessary, because the bourgeois state cannot be dismantled and a proletarian state put in place via peaceful means.

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        Hence the supreme court decision and the mad rush to gerrymander the fuck out of every state they can.

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            While that’s true, I do think that neither of those camps is willing to so much as slide back into a welfare state (even with extra imperialism on the side). The DNC doesn’t want any more Mamdanis (even though he’s a socdem at best), and if they think this’ll prevent that, they’ll let it happen, no matter how much they claim to oppose it. If there were any possibility of an actual socialist being elected, we’d see way worse than this.

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                I think you may be right. I just hope we can get them to move left instead of right. Nate Bear’s recent post really gave me pause, because I know a lot of people who want to maintain their treats above all else. I want to have some faith in humanity, but we’re definitely going to have our work cut out for us, I think.

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                We should make room for for third and fourth party candidates wherever we can. There are states that implement nonpartisan elections in some ways. Nebraska has a unicameral, nonpartisan legislature.

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    I am quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I know think vainly, flattered myself that without very much bloodshed it might be done.

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      John Brown

      Perfectly normal reaction to slavery. The sickest among us are well adjusted to this unjust world. Like a gambling addict who always wins. Until they dont…

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    “I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think, vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done.”

    • John Brown
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        I guess that you have to live outside the US to see what a scary man-baby it is. If a country has all the power in the world, and then decides that rules don’t apply to them, it quite a short step to wishing that they would fail and leave the rest of us alone. The delusion is that they have adopted the world cop role. The reality is that they are the world bully.

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      It’s an interesting question for the pseudo-communist progressives attached to the democratic party: are they really the kind of people who would be in charge of a communist North America? They don’t look Mexican, Black, or Native American to me. I’m not an identity essentialist but the way they’re attached to white political & intellectual apparatuses proves it’s not serious before you even get to discussing tactics.

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    Oh, sweet summer child. The Democrats don’t even have an interest in reforming the system, which is why nothing changes even when they have a majority in congress. Reformism is dead. Only a revolution can save the working class from the stranglehold of capital.

    Now, is a revolution in the US forthcoming? Unless conditions change dramatically, I would say not. But we have entered the weeks where decades happen and left the decades where weeks happen. If you want to be prepared, organize and read theory; having a reality-based perspective will help you regardless of where we’re headed.

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    There won’t be real reforms from Democrats because they’re complicit and invested in the system staying exactly as it is. Just “nicer.”

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      Noooooooooo! STOP SAYING THIS! YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE THE REPUBLICANS WIN!!!

      STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP! THIS IS WHY KAMALA LOST!

      SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!

      I have traced your IP Address and confirmed you are a Russian Bot! MODS! MODS! BAN THIS ACCOUNT!

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        You must be bad at tracing IP addresses because I’m not a Russian bot. And the Democrats have ALREADY made the Republicans win, in case you haven’t noticed. I’m pointing out that political parties are a corruption of our politics and should not have direct electoral access. They should be like any other special interest group.

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        I honestly can’t tell if you’re joking but Kamala lost because her policies were fascism light instead of anything representing the working class. If the Dems want working people’s vote they have to do something for them, not just say “I’m not Trump”.

        I voted blue but completely get why people wouldn’t, lessor of two evils is still evil. If the only thing a system has to offer is evil then it’s time for that system to collapse, simple as that

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          I couldn’t tell either.

          We need to work to change the system. Ranked choice voting, nonpartisan elections and legislatures, etc. Oh, and money isn’t speech. It’s power.

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          Kamala lost because her policies were fascism light

          Okay, but that’s better than fascism, right? So stop criticizing fascism lite! It’s only hurting the opponents of fascism!

          Well… okay, maybe the police and prosecutors that Kamala Harris organized during her time as California AG hurt the opponents of fascism a bit more. But that was before we had a dang Cheeto in the White House. So, let bygones be bygones and focus on the future.

          I voted blue but completely get why people wouldn’t

          I will be very angry at you anyway. If you upset even a single independent voter on the fence about voting for Kamala, you have committed Word Crime against the cause of the Stopping Trump.

          lessor of two evils is still evil

          That’s exactly what a Russian would say. I’ve outed you as a nefarious FSB superagent here to bring down American Democracy and turn us into a nightmare hellscape of Soviet Style Communism, which is what Russia is right now.

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      Exactly. The current system of government isn’t democracy, it’s competitive authoritarianism.

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    Nothing will change until we group together and stop exploitation. This includes how America has propagandize that all violence is equal. Nothing is going to change unless some bricks go through some windows and I think we are past even that. Not a single person in power is on our side.

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    I would vote for a candidate that begins the process of devolving the Union so we can eventually divorce into separate countries. I think we are doomed for civil war either way. As a Californian, when they’re doing stuff like systematically disenfranchising us, withholding our Medicaid dollars and attacking our public universities despite us contributing more to the treasury than we take back, it’s hard to feel like an American. I’d prefer to be a citizen of California than share a country with these freaks. Winning elections won’t make me feel any better after seeing how they despise and want to destroy us.

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    The US needs to be dismantled. There’s no such thing as fixing a settler colonial state. Everything about it is very young and paper thin, from its philosophies to its narratives to its borders to its laws to its “culture” to its religions. None of it will withstand the slow and inexorable resistance of the world’s people.

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    No, plenty of us believe it. I didn’t recently purchase 10+ different guns and a ton of ammo because I think things will work out.

    Unfortunately, more people think diplomacy and peaceful protest and waiting until the next time to vote will be enough.

    It’s fucking dumb.

    If my plan to leave the US permanently fails, I’m prepared for literal civil war.