It’s not going to be cheap, though — in the US, the 65-inch model is officially priced at $3,499.
That’s a fuckin steal for the tech, if it wasn’t a smart tv.
Maybe I’m showing my age but I remember 3k+ for a 60+” DLP TV with shit viewing angles and a bulb that needed replacing eventually.
Lol, such bs. When HDTVs were made ‘smart’, and then 3D, the only ones sold were 40"+ and £3,000+. Took about three years for that price to drop 90%. But this is garbage news, who still wants a television in this century? Pubs, community spaces and that’s about it. Monitors are significantly cheaper, with less bloat and software lock.
who still wants a television in this century?
This is so out-of-touch it’s unreal.
—Someone who doesn’t still want a television in this century
That’s some protagonist syndrome.
Well, I might not want a TV… all I really want is a 60"+ high quality, high refresh rate, 4k+ panel to game, work and watch media on…
On wait; thats literally an HDTV minus the tuner.
The only thing that makes it a TV IS the tuner… and honestly it’s not bad to have in an emergency or for local OTA stuff anyway. If I never use it then having it doesn’t matter.
HOPEFULLY this is the beginning of the end for HDMI.
$3.5K TV says it isn’t
LOL
Ah so close!
If it lacked any smart tv features and had displayport it would be my next tv.
same, make TVs dumb again!
Ignore me if I’m being stupid, but could you just not give it internet? A lot of TVs have high spec CPU/APU these days and complicated firmware, surely ability to update the firmware for these is necessary for patches/feature improvements. They probably think it’s silly not to include software if they can, but I agree the software experience is often a bit of a let down. LGs been good, but admittedly I block all telemetry on my network so wouldn’t notice any downsides.
People aren’t just objecting to the quality of the software, and even more than objecting to the relentless commercialization at every opportunity in the ‘smart’ features, they are rightfully worked up about the firehose of surveillance telemetry these devices are feeding back to the manufacturers.
Some definitely won’t let you use them if they’re not connected.
What models do not work without internet?
My roku/vizio made it seem impossible to proceed without a connection and account. The workarounds I found online vary by model. I caved to avoid a fight. Even after a later reset, I couldn’t figure out how to bypass it. I tried disconnecting it from wifi through the tv but it kept forcing me to connect it again, or else it wouldn’t proceed. However, I changed the wifi password later and it was surprisingly quiet about it. It constantly flashes the power light when on now, but a little tape keeps it in check.
Google TV models don’t need Wi-Fi. They in fact have a “basic TV” mode.
you’re right and that’s what I do but I’d still buy a sceptre tv if they were sold outside of trumpia
Does it act as a dumb monitor? Can all smart TV features be permanently disabled?
You can prolly just not connect it to Wi-Fi but I seriously doubt any TVs these days don’t have this bullshit.
I’ve heard that the “smart” feature services actually help subsidize the overall cost of the TV, but if that’s true, I doubt any of those savings are being passed to the consumer.
TV’s is one of the few things that have gotten cheaper of the years
they have mics to spy on you and unremovable ads all over the ui and apps
There are relatively few, but there are a couple. The Sceptre U515CV-UMC is probably the most well known one. It’s easy to find a dumb TV in the sub 24" category, too, but that’s probably not what most people are looking for and at that rate most nerds would probably just use a computer monitor instead anyway.
No DisplayPort on that Sceptre, obviously.
Scepter makes non-smart TVs . They aren’t very high res.
All smart TVs which let you go through the setup wizard without connecting to Wi-Fi can be.
Don’t connect to any networks. There, it’s “dumb”.
not a permanent solution… some are experimenting with making a network connection mandatory to work at all
Don’t buy those. TV doesn’t get to decide what gets plugged into the video in.
Again, that’s the issue… look how hard it is to get a dumb TV today…
I could choose today to skip the TV that requires network to work but soon they will all join the trend and it would be impossible to avoid
So if your input is HDMI from a small desktop computer, it still makes you connect to a network? If this is true, it sucks, I’ve never seen it. I always use a 3rd party media player like an Nvidia shield. My tv has never been on a network.
Tldr; This article reads like my own particular preferred brand of copium.
Nvidia Tried this with BFG (Big Format gaming Displays) but most of them never made it to market. I think Microcenter carried one model and it was expensive for what you were getting. Back in those days having the nvidia gsync sticker easily double the price of any monitor and making it a ~60" tv wasn’t an exception.
I can’t be the only person who wants display port but I fear this must have to do with the HDMI Forum being the current cable standard mafia and supporting anything other than HDMI is like giving up an inch of the total control they have over the TV industry. They (Sony, Phillips, Toshiba, Hitachi, etc) are effectively colluding against TV buyers and controlling the market and eliminating competition.
With that being said, the USB-C port on these TVs has been around and Ive seen other reviewers show that the high sense implementation is not the panacea (yet) that gamers desire. Its more for like, plugging in your Macbook to your TV.
Still, if this TV came out tomorrow and Wendell from Level1techs said “your Linux pc can get 4k, 120hz, HDR FreeSync out of this” and showed it working, $3500 dollars wouldn’t stop me from buying it.
Still, if this TV came out tomorrow and Wendell from Level1techs said “your Linux pc can get 4k, 120hz, HDR FreeSync out of this” and showed it working, $3500 dollars wouldn’t stop me from buying it.
I wish I was this rich to impulse buy something that expensive because a man on the internet said something positive abouti t.
Well, you see, when you know and understand Linux well, your chances to become rich are increasingly higher.
A lot of us skip several upgrade opportunities and just keep saving for something decent that works well with our OS.
Heck, I went over ten years on my last CPU and mobo because I was waiting for the predicted amdgpu nirvana that we have now.
My TV is no different. I’ve had the same, dumb, 1080p IPS since 2012. Just waiting for a tv that’s worth it.
So yeah, if the ideal tv launches at 3k, I’ll buy it without a doubt.
I have that money saved from when I didn’t leap to 3d, when I didn’t leap to OLED and when I didn’t leap to 4k.I’m sure he appreciates you rushing to his defense trying to somehow justify it.
Hisense UR9 RGB, but note that the port is on the left bezel of the panel. Hopefully saved you a click.
Can you install KDE TV on it?
I didn’t know KDE TV existed, it seems awesome!
I couldn’t quickly find any information on streaming services. I’d love to swap out the slow smart tv ui for this, but if my wife has to fumble with webbrowers using a tv remote, it will not last.
Sounds great! I’ll gladly pay $200usd for it.
I skimmed the article and didn’t see any mention of price, but I expect it to be 10x what I’m willing to spend on a display.
Also if it’s a smart tv I’m no longer interested at all.
Allmost all tvs are smart tvs these days, just never connect it to wifi and use external devices like an HTPC.
I expect it won’t be long before they start including cellular modems.
This. I don’t get why most commenters whinge about smart TV capabilities, when you don’t have to actually use that feature.
Because some of the TVs themselves whinge at you constantly if you don’t connect them to a network now.
Smart TVs are so. slow. Booting. Changing channels. Opening a menu.
Makes me miss my old CRT. I don’t miss the coil whine, but fuck that bitch could change channels instantly.
I’ll be sticking with my Sceptre then
Looks like it’s $3500! 😬 Seems crazy to pay that much for a TV
Especially an off-brand like Hisense. My 65" LG OLED was only $1200
Normally I’d say just leave it off your network, but I’ve read some awful stuff Hisense does to coerce users into connecting their TVs to their network.
Damn. Too expensive for me. My TV has a dark spot after 8 years. I’m going to be on the market for a new one in the next year or two and displayport would be sweet. Hopefully this starts a trend. This is Hisence and am excited to see reviews for the latest TCL models to drop
I like TV’s. I was using 3 1080p 60hz TV’s as monitors. I recently upgraded to a Philips Google TV. 43" 4K, 144Hz, with HDR10 & Dolby Atmos. The difference is amazing. and I love the larger size.
Couple of years ago I bought an LG 50” TV as a monitor. Since it was cheaper then buying a large monitor. I also like the large size, since my eyesight has gone to shit. Also I have a deep desk so I can just push the TV to the edge of my desk and have all the desk space available and still have a screen that fills my view. I only wish it was curved since 50” is just a bit too large.
I once got a 42" tv from some Korean brand Seiki for like $400 back in like 2008. The best thing about it was you could update the firmware to that of one of their other models and get true 1080p 120hz without any of the post processing junk ruining response times.
Lasted me a little over a decade before something burnt out, best gaming monitor ever though.
Oh good, now you can watch ads on your giant tv when your console or PC game ends because the TV will know.
Next: subscription access to play games on said Big TV.
Oh good, now you can watch ads on your giant tv when your console or PC game ends because the TV will know.
You connect TVs to WiFi?
Actual mini LED (3.5 to 5k nits!!) and display port?
(And a price to match it, but it’s “only” at the upper end of normal consumer TVs.)Ok, where it the enshitification catch?
Now all peripherals just need to adopt compatibility for this single TV model and it’ll catch on.
Yay
Holy shit its about time. Using these shitty adapters is annoying.
