In my head they are very normalburger if that makes sense. They think Trump can stop the war enough to affect the market, right?
Depends on the person. I’m a therapist, tons of my clients are very upset, scared, crying, having trouble sleeping, depressed, feeling powerless and angry, etc.
This administration’s actions are taking a huge toll on some people’s mental health.
And people who are trans or gay? They are scared and many want to get out but can’t.
Having said all that… there are plenty of people who are not bothered because they are not informed and don’t realize how bad things really are.
Traumatize them back
You’re a fucking coward.
it’s propaganda… they are using all media (which they essentially not control) to overwhelm and force people to stop paying attention. you’ll probably notice that your clients, slowly over time are getting less and less angry/extremely emotional and are essentially becoming numb to all the random information that they are consuming.
their goal with propaganda isn’t to make you think, it’s to make you not think. our human tendencies to rationalize and question is essentially being bombarded to the point of emotional collapse. this is the end goal for propaganda, to force complicity through emotional shutdown.
Steve Bannon said to “flood the zone.” That’s what they are doing.
The average American barely has any idea there’s a war even happening or who the president is. Half the people I know think Biden is still president. Even people who do know there’s a war wouldn’t be able to find Iran on a map. Everything about our government and everything it does might as well be a TV show to my fellow Americans. They see it as fiction that doesn’t impact our lives and most people think it’s extremely boring so they tune it out.
People are crashing out but for different but associated reasons. Everyone’s broke, no one can afford healthcare, there’s a mass shooting every 3 days. Everyone’s tired and the alienation is so thick that people are all pointing in different directions to where they think the problem is. People are getting more conspiracy brained and twitchy.
Americans are deep fried in every sense
Even people who do know there’s a war wouldn’t be able to find Iran on a map.
I work a customer service facing job at the poop factory. The only person I’ve ever heard mention the war is one overly chatty customer who asked me “so did you hear we’re in another war now?” with the same cadence as “did you catch the big game last night?”
I’ve noticed that stress is beginning to show in society. When you order groceries, much of the order is wrong. People are using employee assistance programs in certain cases for stress related issues. Many of my friends can’t stand to watch the news. I’m fucked in the head from doom scrolling. I know a person who had a party recently and said the only thing she wanted for her bday was for nobody to bring up politics. It’s awful honestly and I’m crashing out. My health is impacted. Like, a lot.
It’s invalidating that some don’t see all this.
Delete social media, seriously, it’s a cancer that eats your soul.
I deleted every social media outside of Lemmy and my mental health drastically improved. I only pick up my phone to message my spouse or friends to make plans.
Disconnect from the race, your brain will thank you.
I got off everything other than Lemmy after Trump won. It definitely has helped, but we’re not deleting Facebook or deGoogling our way out of world collapse. …well, at least short term anyway. Most people I know cannot even connect their everyday habits with the consequences they experience.
People in the U.S used to say.
"Finish your dinner , there are kids in Africa/China starving. "
Now it’s our kids going without food.
They used to say
“we have to liberate religious fanatic dictatorships of other countries”
Now we hope someone liberates us from fanatic fascist dictators.
“We are the richest country”
Poverty is high and climbing every minute.
Children are illiterate. No one can afford basic healthcare and die from preventable diseases. Lose everything they own and become homeless from cancer or a serious injury.
Sex trafficking. That used to be other countries right?
Nope. It was here. It was always this place.
It’s been rotting for a while. Causes have effects. Some people don’t seem capable of actually following the path to see the outcomes. And the few who can are often ignored.
Even my other leftist friends thought I was being dramatic this time last year.
I couldn’t get them to engage much. Now they call me, sobbing. Overwhelmed. It was all real. It was all true. It’s all over for us. We can’t come back from this without a lot more hardship.
I think people still haven’t accepted that last one.
Our children can’t even read. You think we are going to bounce back from this in 5 or 10 years?
No one will trust the U.S for anything.
Right now they are all working to stop using the dollar as the main exchange currency. Many are working on their own tech so they don’t have to use our corrupt tech.
Hell some country in Africa has their own Internet now that’s not accessible to outsiders because they are sick of the manipulation.
It’s over. And we , the citizens, will be paying for decades.
None of this will be fixed any time soon. I know no one wants to hear that. But it’s true.
Go ahead and make your peace with it. And then be ready to fight and try your hardest to support each other.
We only have each other.
I couldn’t get them to engage much. Now they call me, sobbing. Overwhelmed. It was all real. It was all true. It’s all over for us. We can’t come back from this without a lot more hardship.
I think people still haven’t accepted that last one.
I know exactly one other person in my life who has accepted this and that’s mostly cause hes just as, if not more rabidly commie, than me. We both know this is coming and know what that means but I don’t think we can know if we were really ready until after it’s over.
It feels fucking awful.
The complaints about sex-trafficking were never real or about sex-trafficking. They were the equivalent of today’s internet age gate laws that are popping up all over. It was about control then as it is now.
The ‘background noise’ is getting louder but for the most part, people are just carrying about their day worried about their own personal lives
Loo at American history. This really is business as usual, sad as it might be.
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There have been many organized protests against Trump since he took office. I’m not sure how much press they’ve received outside the US. Though many still support him because they are indoctrinated into the MAGA cult, I would say that most (over half) of Americans are against the war for a variety of reasons.
The problem is that there is not much we can do in the short term to create change. Our system of government does not have an effective means to recall a leader.
The threat of legal action does little to deter this administration. For one thing, it’s slow. For another, they’ve shown that they can and will ignore court orders and this far don’t suffer any consequences. Finally, the administration has done as much as possible to install loyalists and remove honest people in every part of government, including the legal system.
Impeachment is a joke. Even if the process was started again, Republicans in the Senate would never convict one of their own.
So the average citizen doesn’t approve of what is happening but don’t see any effective means to change. It’s a very helpless feeling. Many disgruntled communities have been able to create some change in their local government but even changing political parties is not real change. We still have 2 right wing parties bought by special interests. I think many of us just try to do good where we can in our own sphere of influence.
I just recently got a bunch of medical stuff and psychiatric stuff sorted out after decades of barely being able to function. So I’m finally feeling “normal” and the state of our politics has me stressed to the point of action, but not to the point of curling up in a ball and doing nothing, which is unusual for me. Very surreal to be functional in a nonfunctional world.
The oil prices have not hit the average consumer hard yet. They are releasing oil reserves and taking other measures to artificially reduce the price increase. It will probably take a month or two before things really starts to go down. (or up in this case)
I’m sure some people are. But constantly crashing out isn’t useful even in the worst situations. What is useful is taking real steps that have real effects. Action is the antidote for anxiety.
If crying most days is crashing out, then yes.
Things are not normal. It is like a lot of people are waiting for the next shoe to drop.
Resistance is legal, so long as it does not go “too far”. I am near an “ICE” city. When empty cars with cut seat belts started showing up, there was an added level of horror film unease. The kidnapping by random “not ICE” didn’t amount to much, though we have yet to truly know who was kidnapped by “not ICE” (likely few). The murders have on not been good, but are at least fairly public.
No one is arming, as a shooting war on American soil will get everyone killed. There were days I wondered if we would be bombed. So far the “keep calm, and resist.” Crowd is making progress, which helps keep tensions from boiling over.
Elections are coming up, which is providing an outlet for energy. Real voting won’t be until November, and zero changes will happen until January 2027. Expect crazy shit to ramp up.
America is huge though. For any trend in one location, the opposite is happening elsewhere.
This is a very good time for the privileged to take a “mini-vacation”. It both slows production and gives one a chance to enjoy their last days on Earth.
No one is arming
This is anecdotal, but I’m basically what passes for being the “gun guy” among my mostly very liberal friends
Basically my qualifications are that I went shooting when I was in boy scouts, have a few friends who own guns and have gone shooting with them, and have a lot of outdoorsy hobbies that have overlap with hunters and such (my own attempts at hunting have been with a bow, and I wasn’t very successful,) and generally have a casual interest in guns, but don’t really have money to throw at them, I have plenty of other hobbies and things I’m worried about and guns are near the bottom of my priority list.
Which isn’t all that much, but it’s a lot more firearms experience than most of them have. And they also know I’m someone who will do some research and not just make stupid recommendations.
But a good handful of those people have been asking me about guns because they’ve been thinking about buying one themselves. And some of these same people were, at one point, fervently anti-gun.
And those who already have guns have been going to the range more, trying to stockpile a little extra ammo, maybe acquiring some new guns, getting a carry permit when they never felt the need to and we’re content to leave their guns at home in a safe before, etc.
They’re not out there talking about it, spreading it all over social media, posting pictures of their guns or at the range. Some of them, I think, are a little ashamed of it, others just (probably justifiably) think it’s not wise to spread that knowledge that they have them.
So there is arming happening, I don’t think it’s on a massive scale but I do think it’s happening, but you probably won’t hear much about it unless you’re someone those people have already decided that you’re a safe person to discuss guns with.
And I don’t think it’s specifically building up to any sort of an armed revolution or anything. I think it’s mostly people wanting to be prepared to defend themselves if/when things get bad. I think we’re a long way off from liberals wanting to take to the streets, pull a Jan 6, or even show up to protests armed in any significant numbers. The overwhelming sentiment I’ve gotten from most of my liberal gun owner friends is that they really don’t want to be the ones who take the first shot.
I’m in the Twin Cities, I’m guessing the person you’re responding to is in a first or second ring suburb (and I’m not dismissing their experience for that - ICE never left Minnesota, they’re just operating in the suburbs now where it’s harder to build a response against them so they’re seeing some shit right now), but concealed carry permit requests are way up right now in the twin cities proper. People here are buying guns in response to the gestapo. I don’t know anyone personally who has purchased a firearm, but I’ve seen the local news articles about the phenomenon.
So far the “keep calm, and resist.” Crowd is making progress
Oh yea, I’ll bet
There were days I wondered if we would be bombed. So far the “keep calm, and resist.” Crowd is making progress, which helps keep tensions from boiling over.
What progress?
Guess you missed neighborhood checkpoint videos in Minneapolis. They were blocking streets and checking IDs to make sure people driving through lived there rather than ICE agents from out of town. Citizens have busted ICE’s balls to keep citizens from being arrested. Those guys are pitiful sissy losers.
But yeah, progress is certainly hard to see sometimes.
keep tensions from boiling over
sheepdogging and placating the masses
channeling energy into
Real voting
So maintaining the status quo, they really believe this shit is progress.
I have a “conservative” friend. We both had a bit of a crashout discussion last night. We’re American.
The economy is crashing in front of our eyes. We’re both extremely privileged and lucky and we both recognize it and we recognize how fucking stupid everything is in our society. We recognize we’re powerless to even change the nature of our jobs.
Am American/USian/Yankee what does “crashing out” mean?
Side topic:
ls “normalburger” a word commonly used in English?
If so, what does it mean (I assume it does not refer to grilled beef patties?)My English dictionary draws a blank here…
Maybe it’s a regional thing, but I don’t think it’s a common phrase. I’ve heard “nothing-burger” a lot, and this may be someone playing off that.
No, I think the expression it plays off of is “nothing-burger” which is more common. Like, when everyone is expecting a very bad or very good thing to happen and nothing comes of it: “Well, that was a big nothing-burger” … that and leftist online discourse calling the US “burgerland” or the burger-reich
🚨 Breaking: the Americans have questions about the burgers
I am not an American.
The word “Normalbürger” is a very common expression in my own language, but that’s clearly not how you used it in your post, hence my question.
So, what does it mean?
Oh, how burgerbrained of me not to think outside the target audience, my mistake man, sincerely, but it also doesn’t work without the assumption of nationality. I made up the word on the spot to indicate an American in declining mental and physical health but overall stability, let me check if someone else used the word first in English.
Burgerbrained would be an actual example of a trending portmanteau in English. Invest now
Then better use burgerbrained (which doesn’t seem like a portmanteau to me btw), avoids possible confusion with the existing word.
“Normalbürger” in German-based languages just means “average citizen” in a completely neutral way.
So not what you have been going for.Bürger has the same root as bourgeois, and Wiktionary lists “bourgeois” as a definition of the German word (besides “citizen”).
The portmanteau in English is presumably not derived in the same way. It’s a reference to the favorite American treat found at cultural landmarks such as McDonalds. Only tangentially related to the German thru Hamburg -> Hamburger sandwich -> Cheeseburger
It’s likely closer to normal+burgerreicher or normal+burgerlander.
I’ve heard magaburger a few times, normal burger is new to me.
