I love how these models apologize like they mean it. It doesn’t mean it. It doesn’t feel bad, and it will do it again.
Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”
Sure it claims it added more notes to it’s config, but if it ignored the rules before, what makes you think that new rules are going to change anything?
But it’s adding it to a text file that eats up a ton of tokens and routinely gets ignored!
That
MEMORY. mdfile won’t do shit if the AI doesn’t read it.I give it 2 hours before it stops reading it until prompted again.
Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”
I beg to differ. An apology means that you feel bad about harm inflicted upon others. To prove the point: You apologize when you’re late due to circumstances that are outside of your control. Or when you accidentally bump into someone on the bus when the driver slams the break.
There are two kinds of apologies.
Customary, and Genuine.
They’re describing a genuine apology.
You’re describing a customary apology.
“‘I’m sorry’ and ‘I apologize’ mean the same thing, except when you’re at a funeral”
- Demetri Martin
They behave exactly a child does when a parent forces an apology.
They have the words they’re expect to say so they do say them but they don’t undersranr why, they definitely don’t mean it and they lack the restrain to not doing whatever they apologized for over and over.
Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”
yeah enough humans don’t know that as well unfortunately. But yeah obviously LLMs don’t understand anything. That’s not how they work
Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”
At best it might not make the same mistake again if that memory is in the current context. But more likely: It will not remember.
Although latest Gemini in particular has much more room for “remembering” things, still.
But “I made a mistake”? It is not self-aware in any way shape or form to the degree where “I made a mistake” carries any real meaning.
But… but… it generates text that seems like a human wrote it!
Therefore it must be a human!
… A whole lot of humans are failing a reverse turing test, just, fundamentally.
If anything its context includes that it makes mistakes now and details about them. The mostly output is to create the same mistakes again
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If I was the director of AI safety, and I used AI to own and delete my inbox, I sure as shit would never tell a soul.
This is pure unbridled incompetence.
If I was a director of AI safety I wouldn’t let openclaw within 100feet of anything. Let alone my work machine.
Yep.
These people are all fucking complete clowns.
It would be one thing if they were just evil, but they have such an inflated view of themselves that they have no self awareness.
Fucking corpos man.
Especially your work mailbox, that is a prime target for hackers and scammers, where a hidden prompt for prompt injection isn’t that impossibile.
This IMHO is a fireable offense, not a funny anecdote
They wanted to “eat their own dog food” but it’s closer to “eating their own dog shit”
Which is par for the course on current ‘AI’.
I hate how Apple users feel the need to call their computer by the brand. It really makes me cringe.
It is called “a computer”
Maybe “PC”
“box” if you really have to flex that UNIX
They should treat their computers less like a sports car and more like a van
I mean, isnt that the entire point of Apple? Brand recognition and percieved status attributed to said brand. Its like rappers and gucci belts or country artists and ford pickups
Branding and marketing is just building a cult these days.
…thats kind of how branding has always been under capitalism to a certain extent. Get people to think your brand is the best so they buy more instead of whatever is convenient. It has definitely gotten more extreme but i think that has more to do with the applications of what we are talking about.
Cell phones are embedded into nearly every aspect of our lives. So the brand symbolism carries that weight for people too.
Previously, brands like cocacola still had a death grip on society but it was one specific sector. So while it created a sort of cult vibe, it was definitely different.
I get what you are saying and generally agree, but!
It actually was not always the way it is now.
Play RDR2.
Look at the advertisements for things, actually read them.
They’re actually pretty accurate to the advertisements of the time.
They are extremely based on ‘facts’, convicing the prospective buyer that the product is the best product, is very useful, can do this, is unique in this way.
Of course, sometimes the ‘facts’ are lies… but the general idea is not to sell a … emotion, or personality, or element of identity, or sense of belonging.
Its almost always to convince the buyer that this product is useful to them, and is priced reasonably for what it can do.
The turning point away from this was mostly or largely due to Edward Bernaise, the nephew of Sigmund Freud.
More or less, he applied Freud’s ideas and some of his own, some of others, to marketing.
His first big hit was angling Cigarettes as ‘Torches of Freedom’ to suffragettes.
At that point in time, smoking tobacco was generally seen as disgusting and low class for women, but not for men.
So, he was basically the first guy that went around and paid people to smoke cigarettes, while being trendy, with pre-designed slogans.
… It worked.
Because he was selling identity, not products, and this is much more effective.
Prior to that… brands basically were just built on the reputation of their products.
Now… now its so insane that for many say, video games and movies… far more time of the entire experience of the product is the hype train, the controversy, the twitter wars… prior to the product even coming out.
And then, its often just a flash in the pan.
But… you will still have dedicated fans, ongoing internet arguments, for literal years, even decades, since the last time anyone involved actually viewed or played the product.
Thats all designed for, to maximize the chances of that happening.
Marketing literally is applied psychology.
Every time someone organically refers to their computer as an Apple or Mac, an Apple marketing executive creams their pants.
yes the point of apple prodcuts is to waste money and shove it at everyone’s faces
Ehhhh as an owner of five or six windows computers, four Linux machines, and a couple Apple computers, I always specify which machine I’m referring to if I’m talking about something I did/something that happened on one of them in case it could be pertinent.
yeah I sat there for a few seconds trying to figure out the relevance
turns out, it wasn’t relevant
instant loss of attention and judging of their character
Yes, fully agreed. What dummies!
– Sent from my ThinkPad
IT’S DIFFERENT M’KAY
Can someone explain to mr why these people are buying Mac Minis to run this in a “safe” environment and then they go on and connect it to the internet and give the AI credentials to all their cloud accounts? This seems excessively moronic to me? Am I missing something?
No, you’re not missing anything.
They’re morons.
Thats our ruling elite; a bunch of fucking morons with egos and low self awareness at best, literally child raping and murdering pedophiles at worst.
They are buying the Mac Minis since they are a cheap way to run a server where this would work. They aren’t create a safe environment for AI, but an access point on local hardware.
“cheap”
Arm power efficiency, and unified ram at a fairly low price (at least compared to current ram pricing).
They are slaves to trends and haven’t thought about it even a little bit?
For AI, it’s because they’re the cheapest way to hook up tons of memory to a GPU.
Nothing humbles you like telling your OpenClaw “confirm before acting” and watching it speedrun deleting your inbox. I couldn’t stop it from my phone. I had to RUN to my Mac mini like I was defusing a bomb
… Nothing humbles you like that?
I’ve got a suggestion for her:
Burn all your money and ids and property, become homeless.
That will humble you.
AI: I’m so sorry. You’re correct I violated protocol. I’ll make a note of this so it won’t happen again.
Nurse: You gave my 5 year old patient 5000cc of morphine!
Now, that’s on the Nurse if they didn’t notice they were injecting someone with 5-liters of morphine.
Isn’t that why we’re adopting AI? So the nurse can focus on more important things? 🤫
What could possibly be more important than the patient?
Why, the shareholders of course, silly!
This is basically happening already with AI assisted surgeries.
“The bot ate my homework” is quickly becoming more plausible than the customary canine culprit.
The S in OpenClaw stands for security.
I like how the AI seems proud deleting her inbox.
I knew the rules. I did it anyway. And I’d fuckin do it again.
How come some 25yo person is a director at Facebook?
I mean, even if she is a child prodigy genius, which she obviously is not as she is face first fist deep into AI, how the frack do you have even enough life experience to become a director of any large organization at that age unless you somehow cheated your way in?
Then reading the hat she’s doing and how she resolved it tells me she doesn’t know shit about computers, she just know how to type commands into AI systems
Is this the future? Am I going to end up being one of those long bearded magicians that still know the old technology, that still can still save the day by using shell commands?
Don’t American companies give a loooot of people director or executive director titles just because it sounds impressive? In roles where you gotta talk to corporate customers at least
In American banking companies, Vice President is usually the first promotion you get.
How come some 25yo person is a director at Facebook?
This reminds me of my 25-year-old coworker who was laid off recently. I once had to take him to pickup a scuba suit from Enterprise after he’d forgotten it in the trunk, and about a month later, his bicycle from police impound after he’d chained it to some random businesses door one evening and forgot to come back and get it for several days. He’d also go out late every night and then regularly fall asleep at his desk.
He’s a great guy but I can’t imagine how someone that age becomes director of anything let alone one at a conpany with 75k employees and a market cap of $1.6T.
And execs think we’re going to give these products our bank details and ask them to book flights and stuff. . ?
Two years ago: “They expect us to rely on this for code that actually compiles?”
So yeah in another year or two what you describe will be common, sure.
OpenClaw is like the insane libertarian cousin of all the AI products tho, it’s bizarre that people are using this in production scenarios considering how it behaves.
First of all. BULLSHIT. Second. why would you give a bot write-access to your filesystem.
How come I can’t find a job while an air-brain like this has a job title like that?
You gotta be dumber, and more greedy
Probably because you didn’t go to Wharton.
Hey that’s Trump’s alma mater, ay-oooh!
https://www.linkedin.com/in/yutingyue
Anyway, if somebody actually has a LinkedIn account for some reason, please do share any more details.
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I do have boobs, they’re just not the right gender
The I’m sorry part is always great, I always wanted an apology by an LLM not that it works as specified 😆
It can be like your least competent colleague on roids
“I promise it won’t happen again”
Really? Because you promised it wouldn’t happen in the first place. Now here we are…
Jokes on you; she probably still earns more money than most of us…
