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      I hurt my knee a few years back, not going to return it if it’s too far away. There’s a good reason sometimes, it’s not a 100% judge of character.

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        If you can push it around the shop full of things, you can put it back while empty.

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            You know I actually have dislocated my knee twice. Still have never done that though.

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              To clarify, you were doing the shopping yourself? With the dislocated knee? Because that’s literally what they are saying happened. Not that they dislocated it once and then never returned the carts again. They say clearly below that they are fully mobile and return the carts now. So do you really want to stand by what you’re saying?

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                  Well, I can think of at least two other interpretations off the top of my head, but I’m not really interested in explaining them to you.

                  At the end of the day, not everyone’s dislocated knee is the same. Doubling down on your position of “oh yeah? Well I got a dislocated knee, too, buddy, and I was still able to function!” is incredibly embarrassing for you, from my perspective.

                  I’ve never not returned a cart myself.

                  Sorry you’re such a butthurt loser over a person with a severe injury not returning their shopping cart to the corral. You sound like someone who is terrible to be around. Please never address me again.

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          This is such hot garbage. Like I’m sorry but people stare and laugh when I bring my wheelchair to the store but then stand to reach a shelf. I’ve so often barely finished shopping out of exhaustion

          Have to take a break after entering the store. Have to take a break halfway through. Have to take a break before check out. Have to take a break before parking lot. Take a longer break recouping in the car because groceries are fucking heavy with a spinal fracture.

          Just because someone CAN do a given task doesn’t mean they can do it to the ability level of everyone else. Nor can they do it without longterm consequences, yes I can walk a few blocks, but I’ll be unable to move at all the next three days.

          If someone says they can’t do something because of physical limitations, leave them the fuck alone about it and accept people struggle in unseen ways.

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        this guy is right and the downvotes are insane. You don’t always know what’s going on. All they are asking is that maybe you don’t judge people so harshly when you don’t understand their situation. Jesus christ.

        “No, I refuse! The world is perfect and you should have had a nurse or aide that you could totally afford help you out if it’s such a challenge for you! You were able to run the first half of the mile! Why can’t you finish it out?”

        Ableist slime.

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        can walk around an entire store shopping with said cart, but can’t spend a fraction of that walking to return it

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          I’ve had a borked knee before. Sometimes you start the shopping trip and feel fine, but by the time you’ve covered half your list you’re leaning heavily on that shopping cart for support.

          I’m lucky my partner was always able to return the cart for me because I’m not sure I could have made it back to the car after returning the cart to the cart stand.

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        imagine telling on yourself like this

        not only lazy and selfish, but obviously dumb both for sharing this and for thinking the explanation makes any sense. also, for not just parking near the fucking corral on the first place

        what a fuckin’ wanker

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          Yes, this is always an option available. There are always parking spots near the corrals, and the corrals are never in the middle of the parking lot, forcing a person with a disability to cover considerably more distance.

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          can walk around an entire store shopping with said cart, but can’t spend a fraction if that walking to return it

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    Ha! Let me tell you an anecdote.

    My apartment building is positioned around 7 to 10 minutes walking distance to IKEA, a huge department store and a few small grocery stores. People would be fine dragging a IKEA/department store/grocery store cart for 10 fucking minutes being loud and an ass. And of fucking course they wouldn’t bring them back.

    Also, some of them would bring one INSIDE OF THEIR FUCKING APARTMENT and keep it on the balcony filling it with trash. In some cases, they would bring trash inside cart out to the trashcans (we have private that open only with our key) and leave cart with their trash at the trashcans.

    On average, our apartments are expensive and most of our neighbors are wealthy enough to rent these apartments. Yet, we got swines all over our apartment block…

    Edit: wanted to add that this is in a major city of an EU country.

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    I honestly couldn’t car less about shopping carts. I want people to pick up their dog’s shit for fuck sake

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    Ugh… This clashes for me with what actually happens in the movie. You’re basically saying only a good fascist returns the shopping cart.

    But we all know, only fascists won’t return their shopping cart. Monsters…

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    The real test of character is whether a person not just takes the cart to the cart return, but also tidies up the coral as well so that the carts are all pushed in.

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    Haha, the authority figures in this movie are fascists. And that famously goes right over the heads of ding dongs.

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      I mean the director explicitly made it to “seduce” people to fascism so the ding dongs that fell for it stand for nothing and would be the idiots that would fall for fascism.

      It’s a good litmus test.

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    Where I live there are spots in the parking lot to leave the shopping cart in order to minimize on foot traffic. It’s better to be safe than virtue signaling.

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      and yet the test still applies, because given that ease, people still do not return their carts. and so the judgement becomes more stark, where the act of good becomes so easy, the benefit of the doubt all but vanishes

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    When you’re walking into the store, do you take in a cart that you pass which is not in the corral, or do you shake your head and curse whoever left it there, while leaving it there yourself, to get one at the door? Also, you could take one in from the corral, or you could return the one you used back to the front of the store, instead of the corral.

    Taking it to the corral is not the only measure of a “good” person. Why don’t you do even more? Why don’t you take several carts from the corral to the store when you’re entering? You’re heading that way anyway. Because you’re not paid to do it, you say?

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      I normally walk into the store and try to hold my groceries with my two stupid hands. I was just getting a few things. And the a few more. Then I schlep around the store cursing the god that didn’t make me an octopus.

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      because there is cleaning up after yourself, and there is cleaning up after other people

      I’ll take a convenient cart on my way into the store or gather a cart while taking my own to the corral (which rarely happens because I usually park near them in the first place when I use a cart), but I won’t go out of my way to get other carts that people left behind, because fuck them that’s their fucking job*. I will give them shit if I see them leaving them there though.

      *to be clear lmao I mean it’s the cart user’s obligation to return the cart, not the employee’s job to gather up random shit across the lot

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    citizen /sĭt′ĭ-zən/

    noun

    1. A person owing loyalty to and entitled by birth or naturalization to the protection of a state or nation.
    2. A resident of a city or town, especially one entitled to vote and enjoy other privileges there.
    3. A civilian.

    I don’t understand?

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    I used to park right next to tthe cart return so I could grab a cart and return it easily. Then those sorry fucks moved the cart return a good hundred yards farther out. Fuck you cocksuckers, I’m DONE!

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      That’s just an excuse to walk more. You’re a persistence predator. Waking and lazy swimming are literally THE BEST exercise for us. Low impact exercise for the first, and zero impact exercise for the second.

      Remember to stretch everything everyday, and stretch just a little further every month.

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    I don’t do it because I don’t want to and they can pay someone to come get it. Why does everyone defend companies? Just hire someone to go get the carts all day. Hire 2, 3 or 4 people.

    I worked at a supermarket and loved going outside to get the carts.

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      Why should I have to throw my garbage in designated garbage bins? They can just hire someone to go pick up trash in the ditches. Why does everyone defend the government? Just hire someone to go clean the side of the road all day long. Hire 2, 3 or 40000 people

      I worked at garbage disposal and loved going outside and pick up the trash people threw from their cars.

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        I agree.

        And BTW, in the US for example (and increasingly more countries), the designated bins no longer go different places. They all end up in the same landfill. We need to stop producing so much trash or make the companies who make all the plastic pay to dispose of the products at the end of their lives.

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          So therefore, you think it’s better for people to just chuck their trash wherever they go? Milk-cart, straight out the kitchen window. Pet bottle, right out the car window. Candy wrapper, just toss it on the ground.

          You really don’t need to mention the US as your example of choice. We know you’re American. We can tell.

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            I didn’t say that. I said none of that. I just don’t see how a company can/should pass on their responsibility to the consumer. If the company provides trash they should be responsible to clean it up. If they provide carts, they should also clean it up. Stop taking responsibility for them.

            I’m American, I recycle if I can, i carry my trash until I find a bin, hell I pick up other’s trash at the beach and in parks. But a company parking lot is not my responsibility. Let them clean up their mess. Stop being such a cuck.

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              They can just hire someone to go pick up trash in the ditches. Why does everyone defend the government? Just hire someone to go clean the side of the road all day long.

              To which you replied

              I agree

              So you literally just said you agree that we shouldn’t throw garbage in bins, and just have paid people go pick it up for us wherever we throw it.

              You’re not standing up to the grocery store by leaving your cart where-ever you please in the lot. You’re fucking up for everyone else, people’s cars get hit when said cart sooner or later is picked up by the wind and roll away. Carts lying around blocking the passages in the lot.

              But you expect other people to go and pick up the mess you made. Like I said. You don’t have to say you’re American. We can tell.

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                I agree they should hire people to pick up trash from the ditches. I never said it was okay to dump trash in the ditches. Learn to read.

                People’s cars get hit, and the grocery store should be liable. It’s their parking lot, their cart, their responsibility; hell, have someone walk the groceries to everyone’s cars.

                I don’t make a mess; I leave the company’s cart where they can go get it away from cars.

                The real question is how did they get everyone to argue with each other about this cart nonsense when it should have always been the company’s responsibility?

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                  What do you mean “learn to read”. Your response to that comment was “I agree”. Did you not understand what you were agreeing to perhaps?

                  When you get a cart, you are borrowing it. In my part of the world. You’re expected to return what you borrow. Not just leave it wherever you wish and say “it’s your responsibility to get it since you borrowed it to me”

                  But I see you do things differently

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      If I go into a grocery store and take a massive shit in the middle of the floor, someone will be paid to clean it up. I don’t think someone being paid is a good measure for human decency.