My initial thought is video games, everything has pros and cons, sure. However, it feels like anyone not into video games views them extrodinarly negatively. Any other hobbies parallel to that in your opinion?
Not really looked down on, but every time I mention that I have an indoor greenhouse everyone assumes I’m growing pot.
I see that you didn’t say that you weren’t growing pot
Not really looked down on
You mean near universally championed as cool?
How much are your electric costs for the greenhouse per month?
Even when I say I’m growing strawberries, people think I’m growing cannabis.
I mean, I’m not growing strawberries and most definitely growing cannabis, however it’s the insinuation!Isn’t a greenhouse by definition indoors?
Drawing fetishist NSFW art. A friend of mine was (and probably still is, I just haven’t had any contact with them for ages) pretty good at drawing. If you’re into hentai and/or furry stuff, there’s a non-zero chance you’ve seen his work. He also did some more “exotic” drawings on commission.
He (allegedly) wasn’t particularly into it himself, but he was good at it, he had a creative outlet, and it gave him a couple of extra bucks per month.
Probably one of the minor things I privately disdain as a norm on Lemmy and previously Reddit is folk who are deeply into erotic Anime/furry and similar fringe sexual interests.
Of course, sexuality for many is a rich smorgasbord, and I get how nobody wants to ‘kink-shame’, but that stuff… yeah, not my bag at all.
Wargaming or anything that brings people to a hobby shop. Trains, RC vehicles, and kites are most acceptable and understandable to people on the outside but still looked down on.
The Satanic Panic never went away. I still deal with it on occasion.
Apparently Hell is full of gay people playing dnd and other tabletop games. Sounds like a fun place, honesty!
Having known many, many religious people all my life, when my time is up, I want to go wherever they aren’t.
My husband’s parents were deep into that and forbade him from continuing to play D&D.
Really wish they hadn’t passed before I met him. I met him when we played Call of Cthulhu together. At the local game store. Lol.
Ohh I had that first edition, was one of my first steps outside Gary Gygax’s domain, along with the Marvel RPG rule set. I still remember the distinct way each of those books smelled.
I remember video games having a helluva stigma when I was a kid in school. People mocked me for playing Pokemon. If you were to look at them now, they probably play it religiously.
That aside, I feel like tabletop miniatures get similar dislike. Some people are like “That’s cool” but the common layman just think it’s playing with expensive toys.
Skateboarding
Masturbating in private.
Video games are a bigger industry than Hollywood now, are they really looked down upon still?
Now that there are parents that grew up as gamers, it’s settled down some, but many still consider watching TV or movies for a few hours more respectable than playing games for a few hours.
Absolutely
Yes.
The difference is between “things that are acceptable to do” vs “things that are acceptable hobbies.”
It’s like saying “I watch trashy tv as a hobby” - it implies that it takes up a considerable amount of your time, you put a non-negligible amount of effort or money into it, you might be trying to improve at it, or you consider this a significant part of your identity. It isn’t just “how you unwind” or “a guilty pleasure” - it is a significant part of your life.
What is the difference between acceptable and unacceptable hobbies? Acceptable hobbies improve the individual engaged in them and the world around them, while unacceptable hobbies degrade the individual and the world around them (as measured by the amorphous cultural consensus of the time). Hence:
Acceptible hobbies:
- Woodworking
- Cooking
- Soccer
- Dancing
- Painting
- Gardening
- Reading
- Playing the guitar
These hobbies have the effect of making the individual more active, more social, more creative, and more learned, while also often providing things to others.
Unacceptable hobbies:
- Watching TV
- Playing video games
- Drinking
- Smoking
- Gambling
These hobbies have, at best, a neutral effect on the individual or society.
Of course, many here will be offended, and will say “hey, I use gaming as my main form of social interaction with friends who live on the other side of the country - you’re making invalid assumptions here!” Well, sure - but this isn’t about my personal opinion of gaming. It is about society as a whole’s general perception of it. Argue with me all you want - it doesn’t change the perception of all of society.
Similarly, many will rightly point out “Hey, that middle aged mom spends hours every day on Candy Crush! I shouldn’t be judged any worse than her!” Sure - but again, she doesn’t consider Candy Crush to be a hobby. It is just something to kill dead time in her day. She might be an addict - but she isn’t admitting it, even to herself.
I am into most of those “acceptable hobbies” but would throw reading and gaming into the same bucket. I read, the kids game and both engage your mind. Husband watches TV to unwind and that seems much less mentally engaging to me.
@Korhaka@sopuli.xyz homebrewing to me falls squarely into Cooking category. I also put cocktail making, and any fermentation in cooking. So “drinking” as a hobby isn’t necessarily passive, can be creative like cooking. Putting Drinking in unacceptable hobbies, they might as well include Eating. The consuming of it isn’t creative but the creation of the food & drink is. Also learning about wine, etc.
I’d agrue that it is about social perception, not reality. If you say your hobby is reading, everyone assumes you are reading Steinbeck, and if your hobby is gaming, you must be playing COD.
Also, saying “I’m a foodie” is socially acceptable - people might think you’re pretentious, but will understand there is a level of intellectual engagement, skill, learning, and exploration that goes into it. If you say “my hobby is eating”, on the other hand, they will be a bit nonplussed, and might imagine you taking great pride in eating 200 McNuggets in one sitting. Same with “I like wine tastings” or “I’m a brewer” vs “I like drinking”; or “I like to dance” vs “I go clubbing.”
Where does homebrewing using ingredients I grew in my garden sit on the scale of acceptable/unacceptable? Would be nice to get into beekeeping but it looks like the entry costs are quite high for something I have absolutely no idea about. Also my garden is tiny.
I think all these things fall squarely into “socially acceptable”.
I think bee keeping is super neat! But as you said, can be expensive. And from what I’ve heard, can be more difficult than you anticipate due to modern pathogens.
At the end of the day, you should just do what you think is cool and what interests you. But maybe just don’t list DOTA on your Hinge profile.
Ok Boomer.
lol rekt
If you were to poll 100 people you’d probably have a generally favorable view. Those not in favor though are wildly anti, look at the people still pointing at it in relation to real world violence. I also have a good bit of anecdotal experience in which it’s considered everything from a complete time waste to an actively highly harmful behavior.
My parents always saw videogames as using escapism
Toys collecting. Especially dolls and or stuffed animals.
When a guy collects Pokémon figures, that’s fine and cool.
However when I like to buy myself Bratz dolls and Hello Kitty stuff and cute plushies, I’m told I am childish and I need to grow up🙄😒
Both things are uncool
That’s just your opinion 😊
I don’t care about being cool. I collect childhood things because they make me happy.
I mean, you do you. I only talked about it because you posted about it. I’m very much “w/e none of my business” about that kind of stuff irl
Legal porn
Fair
Rollerblading as an adult if you’re not femme-presenting
True enough
Rollerblading was so cool when I was younger and then that one joke came out and it died immediately. It didn’t take long for rollerblades to be permanently referred to as "Fruit Boots’. This was also back when casual homophobia was the de fecato standard amongst tweens.
poll dancing
Watching Youtube videos. It’s as good as college for anyone with a little savvy. I’ll bet that Youtube employs more PHD philosophers than any three universities.
It’s as good as college
No, it’s not. I’ve heard this line from a few conspiracy and woo groups like flat-Earthers and Pleiadians. I’m not saying you are one of those folks, but those are the people who are most vocal about the idea. They believe that just because the information is presented, they’ll become the experts for passively consuming it. But since they’ve never been to school beyond high school, they’re missing the entire school context, the study culture, the discipline, the challenges to prove your knowledge, the hands-on experience, the contents of the lectures from the point of view of top professionals, and the guidance that a university offers.
There may be a few prodigies out there who really learn the material on their own, and that’s amazing. But for the typical person, the effort and perseverance required is so demanding that they won’t realistically stick with it before it becomes incredibly overwhelming and tedious, especially while on a platform known for its distractions.
Ha! Employed PHD Philosophers. That’s a good one!
Depends a lot on what you are watching
Yeah, when you say ‘I like watching YouTube’ sounds exactly like ‘I like watching Tiktok’.
You have to say it differently: I like to watch online learning content. :).
What are your to ho channels?
Talking to yourself
So long as you’re not arguing, its a non issue.
So long as you’re not arguing, its a non issue.
Well… Shit.
Off to therapy I suppose.
Is it an argument if only one voice disagrees?
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Masturbation
