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    “This is the police! Hands up you FREAK!”

    “…im a farmer”

    “omg thats so cool, can i bring my kids to watch and maybe they can try?”

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      “omg thats so cool, can i bring my kids to watch and maybe they can try?”

      Context is everything. “The Bible: In the Beginning” (1966) contains a long fully nude Adam & Eve scene, but schools were encouraged to send kids to see it. My school did. But nudity in movies was very rare in 1966 and such a scene would normally have been prohibited by government censorship if not for the biblical framing.

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    Fruit is perfectly wholesome and natural though. Except they aren’t…

    Corn is basically a bulge of semen because of how humans have bred it.

    Bananas are incapable of reproducing. All bananans you find in the supermarket are clones. If men were to die out, so would the common (cavendish) banana.

    Cows are bred for milk production. If it wasn’t for men, their milk production would be very different. It’s just as natural as a banana.

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    Veganism is unnatural because we’re all omnivores, and evolved eating both plants and animals.

    Impregnating cows this way is also unnatural.

    Both can be true.

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    Interesting that someone could look at a normal (albeit unpleasant) veterinary procedure and immediately think of beasiality.

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        Carnists: “You don’t understand, we need to shove our hands up their asses”

        Vegans: “Yes, we know, that’s what we are concerned with”

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        I read a comment on how farmers castrate sheep with thier own teeth. Supposed to be the safest way. Use both hands to hold the legs so you don’t get your face bashed.

        Surgical castration

        The testicles may be surgically removed. With this method, a sharp knife or scalpel is used to remove the bottom one-third of the scrotal sac. The testicles are removed and the wound is allowed to drain and heal naturally. Sometimes, people use their teeth to remove the tiny testicles. It is essential that proper aseptic technique be used when the surgical method of castration is used.

        yeah it’s a thing…

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        “Is it possible I’ve completely missed the point? No, it must be everybody else here who’s wrong!”

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          What’s a large contingent of basement dwelling, star trek obsessed Linux nerds going to know about farming?

          Joking aside, if I didn’t see this growing up I’d probably react the same

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            …and, without any sense of introspection whatsoever, doubling down instead.

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      I conceive the freedom to chose on a personal ethical base above the idea of punching down ideas just because.

      I agree it’s a choice, but I don’t think it’s a personal one given that there is another sentient being victimized in the action.

      A bit on the motivation behind vegan activism:

      Say you’re against needlessly exploiting animals. And you purchase/produce animal products when there are other options available. You would be needlessly exploiting animals while affirming a contradiction, that would be hypocrisy. Nobody can force you to act on that, but they can point what you’re accountable for.

      Vegans believe that most people are against needlessly exploiting animals, so they try to show this to people. Confusion may get in the way, but wanting to put on the spotlight what kind of exploitation people are supporting is what guides them.

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        Very good explanation on why it’s not a personal choice.

        This is how I explain it to people: The animals we eat aren’t able to stand up for themselves, so some people try to do that for them. Kust like how activists do this for dogs or orangutans. It’s not against personal choice, but about trying to protect those who are hurt by the choices of others.

        Besides, we all share the same planet and animal agriculture has a big impact on it. So it’s not like our choices don’t affect others.

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    “Farmers are weird therefore vegans aren’t”

    🤦‍♂️

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        I’ve dated vegan girls that were into some weird stuff. Granted, it was weird stuff between consenting sapient adults…

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          By shifting the metaphor from “Earth as mother” to “Earth as lover” we aim to entice people to develop a more mutual, pleasurable, sustainable, and less destructive relationship with the environment.

          While quirky, this is definitively less weird than OP’s disgusting image

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          So there exists some group using a weird metaphor, and somehow that is just as representative of vegans as a video of how farming works is of farmers…?

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            Way to shift that goalpost. You very clearly said “any vegan”, if you meant something else you should have said something else.

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              I guess I have to caveat my phrasing even when it’s super obvious what was meant. Everyone knows you could’ve found a single example of a vegan doing something bizarre, yet it wouldn’t be remotely relevant unless it were at least a semi-popular trend.

              Hint: “everyone” in this comment doesn’t literally mean every human in existence.

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      This is your fault. Look upon the evils your “cheese” addiction has inflicted upon the world.

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      Consider giving vegan cheese a try. It has gotten a lot better. Pretty accurate taste, as far as I can remember. Most even melt properly, now. Most of them are cashew based, and none of them will raise your cholesterol.

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        As another vegan: sorry, no, it’s not accurate. And the texture/meltiness is just completely off. It is similar enough for me to enjoy it and not want real cheese anymore. However, for many people (especially americans) cheese is some holy substance, so we do need to continue improving vegan cheeses for more people to jump.

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          Most other things I can survive without, but I just miss pizza so much

          The only reason I’d ever want to be a billionaire would be to fund vegan cheese research

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          Cashew based cheeses can replace a lot of cheese sauces. I’ve successfully used mustard based sauces creatively to substitute for things like macaroni but imo for pizza I would just go with cheeseless options.

          Tomatoes and kalamata olives can do a lot on their own. If i had a research facility I’d start with tofu and natto and try to get fermentation strains that worked on like pinto beans.

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        Something being Cashew based is not the flex you seem to think it is. All you’ve done is replace animal abuse with human abuse and modern slave labour. I don’t see how it would be any better from an ethical standpoint.

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    I mean… it is.

    Looking at this directly from a viewpoint of what is “natural” for the human body, being vegan is unnatural.

    Being an omnivore is. Our entire digestive system is such that the natural diet of the human body is an omnivorous one and it does best when treated as such. And that means a small amount of animal fats, proteins, trace minerals, and amino acids in one’s diet.

    I’m not going to argue morals or ethics, because that wasn’t what the post was about. It’s what’s about what is “natural.”

    Yes, you may disagree with me. Strenuously, and just know that I respect you and hope that you and yours have an excellent day wherever you happen to be on this flaming cannonball of a planet we call home.

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      The best Thai soup I ever had was from a place called Don Vegan in Quebec City. It was absolutely amazing. Still love a good beef dip though

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      do you not see the state of the entire thread?

      this shitpost overflowed into the entire vegan community.

      we made fun of vegans so hard they threw up all over the floor.

      where’s the mop?

      1000003112