I wonder how much of this applies:
“You don’t make authentic recipes from our country”
“You keep making our recipes”
I’m confused.
I guess the proper criticism would be that we stole their shit and bastardized it. I don’t care, chicken alfredo slaps.
Every culture takes/mixes foods from other cultures and makes it their own. I think the difference with the US is that there isn’t an ancient history to form a basis.
Every culture takes/mixes foods from other cultures and makes it their own.
Perhaps more importantly, every generation remixes their parents’ and grandparents’ food.
French, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and Mexican food aren’t the same as they were 50 years ago. Lots of new dishes were invented and remixed, sometimes from imported influence. It’s not like chefs sit around and refuse to do anything different from how they learned. They do invent and innovate and tweak recipes. That’s, like, the job.
way to brush off thousands of year of native american dishes :/
Stop it, you know what I mean. I’m talking European colonials which formed the basis for the modern US, even if it shouldn’t be that way. They stole Native American food too. The combination of these things formed the basis of “American” cuisine, but it wasn’t long ago in a historical sense.
Which I see as a positive
Fusion kitchens are the best and maybe the only good thing to come out of colonialism. Indonesian-Dutch food slaps. Vietnamiese-French cuisine kicks my ass. Must I bring up Italian coffee or Swiss chocolate? Turkish-German Döner is so popular it is sold basically everywhere now.
Well, colonialism did bring tomatoes and potatoes to Europe.
said cultural exchange happens without colonialism. look at sweet potatoes.
that’s like saying well, without rape, there wouldn’t be rape babies, and implying that we should thank rapist for their lives.
Things like cane sugar could never grow anywhere near a Northern climate. If you want that to influence an entire continent’s food you can only do that through an incredibly unfair deal (like cash crop colonialism).
You certainly don’t get a ton of culinary creativity when you’re paying a fair (read: expensive) price for goods grown halfway around the world. They’re too precious to be anything but a novelty for the rich.
you still can get trade. and why do we need everywhere in the world to have the same foods?
Fusion kitchens are the best and maybe the only good thing to come out of colonialism
Well, there’s also a pretty good music that jazz doesn’t happen the way it did without putting European instruments in the hands of formerly enslaved Africans. Would be a lot cooler world if we could figure out how to evolve our art and culture without crimes against humanity, tho.
Babi pangang up in this motherfucker
You telling me a Foe Yong’d this Hai?
Turkish-German Döner is so popular it is sold basically everywhere now.
I fucking wish. I lived in France 20+ years ago and loved the stuff. Came back to the US and have been waiting to see a good Döner kebab for over 2 decades now.
In the states, is döner kebab basically the same as gyro or shawarma?
Shawarma is the closest I’ve found, but it’s not quite the same. Gyros usually are made with pitas, which isn’t how the kebabs I used to eat were made.
I had tex-mex / Indian fusion once and it was surprisingly good.
My wife is Australian, but we live in Germany now. Last year, she was craving “Honey Chicken” which is ubiquitous at Chinese takeaway places in Australia. None of the Chinese places in Germany knew what I was talking about. Turns out Honey Chicken is a purely Australian invention.
Fuck all of you. Go to New Orleans in a week when crawfish season starts and eat some mud bugs, some blackened redfish, jambalaya, gumbo, cajun crawfish etouffee, etc. Best food in the world.
Also, king cakes.
What else is there to do there?
Uhhh. What else is there to do In NOLA? You absolutely have to go if you’ve never been. Just take Ubers and reasearch where you go stay. There is soooo much to do! It’s literally the funnest place to be, even if you hate Mardi Gras or the French Quarter. There is just all kind of stuff to do. Art, crab fishing, deep sea fishing, see alligators, voodoo shops, more drinking and partying than anywhere else, giant aquarium, Decandence and Pride parades for lgbt, naked bike rides, giant parades for St Patrick’s day, voodoo fest with lots of bands, Jazz fest, festivals and parades for random shit if they run out of excuses, daiquiris beers and jello shots available in drive thru, vampire balls, vampire bars, cocaine, pro football games, pro basketball games, cemetery tours, casinos, ghost tours, ferry to cute East bank or whatever, French market in quarter, walk around French quarter and party, take railcar to Irish Channel and party, go to beach 25 min away, etc.
Ha ha. Holy shit, what is there to do in NOLA?
What other place in the world is one almost guaranteed to find a person playing a suziphone on any given night? Amazing place.
You can book a ride on an airboat through a bayou too!
I do have young kids as well sadly, otherwise it would have been fun it sounds like. I’ll check it out when I’m more free.
When I think of New Orleans I think of Mardi Gras where I can flash my tiddies and earn colorful shiny strings of beads. But imagine my surprise when I realized I could buy colorful shiny beads at the Dollar Tree and not even have to travel to Louisiana and expose myself.
They told you all the best stuff honestly. If you’re into alcohol you’ll have no trouble finding it. Amazing city though. The food culture there is incredible.
NoLA is for sure a food and drinking town but the music shouldnt be slept on either
Jazz!
Umm… it’s not mexican, chinese or italian but also american food doesn’t exist?
I can’t tell if this was the joke or the meme just wants to shit on americans for stealing and mangling everyone’s food…
Also, jalapeño poppers.
I think the joke is that Americans like to adopt foods or cooking techniques from other cultures, then change them to fit local tastes. This is how a lot of “traditional American” foods came to be. There is also a stereotype that American cultural practices (gastronomy included) are “not real” or that American culture as a concept doesn’t exist because it comes as a fusion of cultural practices from other countries. The meme is poking fun at people who may hold that belief.
People also have a habit of describing the American versions of things to be “not real”, even if it never really claims to be. For example, fettuccine Alfredo in the US is an adaptation of fettuccini al burro (a real Italian dish), but is described as “not real Italian food” because it isn’t actually eaten in Italy. Or that orange chicken is “not real Chinese food” because it isn’t eaten in China. Which, to be fair, is true, but most American diners are aware that Panda Express, Olive Garden, and Taco Bell aren’t accurate representations of food eaten in China, Italy, or Mexico. They’re Americanised versions of food inspired by Chinese, Italian, and Mexican cuisine.
Americans like to adopt foods or cooking techniques from other cultures
It’s not “americans” (as in people whose families have lived there for a few generations), it’s immigrants who brought their culture and then adapted it to the locals. You can find this in almost every country.
The definitionition of “American” is pretty flexible. If you move here, live here, and want to consider yourself an American, then you are an American. Some loud zealots may say otherwise (typical in any country) but most Americans literally do not think about this at all.
If Olive Garden isn’t real, then why are their breadsticks pure joy? :)
Haven’t been to an Olive Garden in decades, but aren’t they just like long, thin, crackers? They’re barely bread.
Haven’t been to an Olive Garden in decades, but aren’t they just like long, thin, crackers? They’re barely bread.
They are definitely bread, not cracker like at all.
I was looking for this. Glad I’m not alone.
Tbf the kind of cultural fusion cuisine you get when another culture successfully imports another culture’s cuisine, is super interesting to me. I’d say this stands separately from intentional fusion restaurants, this is more something that happens organically as a cuisine is adapted to the ingredients and tastes somewhere away from where it is invented.
The classic examples are Tex-mex and British curries, but every country has a few things like this. Japanese Italian is a pretty cool experience, not least of all because now I think about it there’s some places that are straight up Japanese/Italian cultural fusion, but others are more Japanese/Italian-American, so this thing can go deeper. And don’t get me started on the godlike German/Turkish magic happening on the streets of Berlin
Always been a fan of trying local cuisine when I’ve travelled, but I’ve more recently been trying to add places like the above into the mix, as it’s genuinely always been interesting to me
First they say ‘that is not our food’.
Then the say ‘all you do is eat our food’.
Make up your minds.if I plagirise your novel and change things so it is terrible, I still both copied your novel AND said novel isn’t a representation of your work.
But if I take you novel as inspiration and created a new novel then I’m not eating your novel
America has, by a long shot, the most diverse and some of the best food on the plant. Go to one of the big three and you can have 3 star Michellin from every continent or some of the best street meat shit you’ll have on the same day.
meanwhile everyone in the world, who traveled to the US, will tell you that even the produce has no flavor.
US food is objectively terrible compared to other nations.
👌👍 /r/IamveryCulinary
This depends. In my experience anything processed tastes horrible because of chemical and sugar overload. But you can get great ingredients! Much better than here in Germany anyway.
And there are many more diverse great restaurants than in most places in Germany, ngl. In the US, you can go to any small town and find a great homemade style Korean place, or something like that. No such luck in Germany, they’ll serve you 14€ frozen pizza.
(In my experience anyway. These are large countries, so none of this is rule, just personal experience)
The winner is no questions Italy, though. Best pizza I ever had was in 8€ in an Italian town with ~5000 inhabitants. Unbelievable. Only good restaurant there, though, but I’ll never forget the experience.
Why are all nationalities chads except the Italian is a wojak?
For obvious reasons
Came from Italy and to be fair I didn’t try too much American food, I guess some corn meal and pancakes, meat was really good; but the real greatest thing I found in the US is the HUGE sandwiches they make in the Publix supermarket. Great stuff, loved it.
