• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    12 天前

    COPY/PASTA

    In the US we have the Second Amendment. The fascists have been the ones screaming and yelling about the Second Amendment, but the truth is that all Americans have the right.

    Owning a gun isn’t enough. Driving to Cabela’s and picking up a vermin killing .22 rifle is not enough. You should buy a proper rifle, a pistol, and a knife or baton. (Bonus points for a shotgun) Then you need to train with said rifle, pistol and knife/baton. Go to a range and shoot. Look for local self defense/hand to hand combat with a weapon classes and train.

    I am not advocating for violence…far from it. But I am advocating for knowledge because owning a weapon and not knowing how to use it is a recipe for disaster.

    PS: If you can afford it, buy suppressors and/or active hearing protection. Especially for your rifles. Suppression for the common citizen isn’t about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect. Suppressors might be out of reach for most but quality active hearing protection is not.

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      Whenever this comes up I like to add:

      • Don’t get a gun in some obscure caliber. Get a pistol in 9mm or a riffle in 223 (even better get a 5.56x45 NATO) or 308 win, that way ammo will be cheaper and you can better afford training with it. Shooting a few hundred rounds is not really enough. You’ll need to train regularly.
      • Learn how to maintain your gun. As in how to clean it, what parts need lubrication, adjusting the sights, etc.
      • Speaking as an electronic engineer, get passive ear protection. Active noise cancelling is cool and all, but what about when the batteries run out and you have no protection? Or what the electronics fail? Protect your ears, but when you can get +100 rounds of ammo for the price difference, then I would prioritize the ammo budget.
      • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Don’t ear protection like the Razor Slims function both with active noise cancelling and without electricity? Active noise cancelling is useful for hearing the range instructor, but I’d imagine the seal and cushioning would also provide adequate hearing protection.

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          Pretty sure mine are passive with a little speaker that selectively transmits low decibel sounds. If the batteries die, it’s still passive protection, I just don’t get to hear people talking.

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          Razor slims have shitty protection if the battery dies, only 22db, which is not enough without also using foamies. Also their sound quality is dogshit compared to the equally cheap Impact Sport electronic muffs, which also sacrifice passive protection for slimmer dimensions. Proper passive muffs are 30-33db reduction.

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            Huh, TIL. I do have a pair of purely passive muffs (from my father, presumably acquired in the 90s/00s) that I could use if need be. I got the Razor slims a bit back because of a clearance discount at a sporting good store, glad to hear there are other options in their price range though.

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        I wonder if active noise canceling doesn’t have a delay that pretty much nullifies said protection in the case of quick loud bangs.

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          For consumer bluetooth earbuds with a high level of latency (think what you’d use on your phone), certainly - which is why you should never try to use everyday use headphones as genuine hearing protection for things such as industrial environments or gunshots.

          Dedicated hearing protection devices perform all their audio functions locally with almost no latency at all (unless you count using an aux jack in conjunction for something like two-way radios, which don’t interfere with the noise cancelling).

          TL;DR - yes for devices not designed to protect your ears, no for devices designed as hearing protection (because of their specific design and operation).

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            From what I understand, typically audio compression has about 20 ms of ramp-up, though it can be theoretically lowered about ten times — not sure how well it would work in that case, though. Consider that aural reaction speed is apparently way better than visual, wherein the latter is on the order of 200 ms. As is confirmed by musicians hearing a lag of around 15 ms. This leads me to believe that human hearing would probably pick up the shots sound before noise cancellation kicks in, otherwise the cancellation is too sensitive for anything else to be heard.

            Of course, this skips the most important aspect of, how much sound pressure would be dangerous to one’s ears with different kinds of protection — with which I’m not versed at all.

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        Active ear protection become passive when the batteries fail. The active part is that they have microphones on the outside so that you can hear normally with them on. I do agree though that noice cancelling headphones should not be used as hearing protection.

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          But that’s just indoor shooting, right? (The page doesn’t work on my phone)

          I wouldn’t want to shoot much larger guns than 22 indoors routinely. But that’s maybe the viking in me talking ❄️⚔️🔥

        • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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          So does letting the nazis win.

          I bought my first firearm a few weeks ago because the risk of nazis showing up at my door had gone through the roof. Even if they don’t (and I still think the odds are good that they wont), we’re in for some massive food supply shortages this year. Even now, I’ve noticed that there are more runs on groceries, the quality, quantity, and variety of food in my grocery stores has dropped. I’m growing a big garden this year, which is the main reason I got the gun. If someone broke in before, my main plan to was to let them have whatever the fuck they want outside of the bedroom. That garden however, may be the difference between living and dying next year, and it’s not something I can just buy again, or pack up and scurry away with when confronted.

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      I would say these days, probably one in four of your friends should own an fpv drone and know how to use it, repair, maintain as well.

      Prob not a bad idea too if one in 8 of your friends takes on 3d printing as a hobby. Knows the ins and outs, maintenance, big supply of filament, etc.

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      As someone who doesn’t know much about guns: if .22 is not enough, then what is “a proper rifle”? Why would I need a rifle, pistol, and a knife/baton? If I am just defending myself and my family, will I still need all of these things?

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        Easiest way to put it is this way.

        Rifle - Long distance shots. Semiautomatic rifles like AR-15 types put out a lot of bullets with precision and are a good way to protect a perimeter.

        Pistol - Medium distance. Kill or wound in situations where you can see the white of their eyes.

        Shotgun - Short distance (indoors) and highly versatile. You can even load it with “less lethal” ammo.

        Knife/baton - Hand to hand combat.

        I am not a hardcore gun aficionado so please, I encourage further feedback.

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        If you’re not a gun person don’t bother with a rifle or handgun, get a shotgun.

        You don’t have to worry about over penetration with a shotgun, and it’s easier to hit with than a pistol.

        If you want to know what a proper rifle is, then that’s really a subjective assessment. I would say that a 22lr is ok, unless you need fight people in body armor. But I can see how big burly Muricans want something in 338 lapua or 50 bmg.

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      12 天前

      Americans

      people in the country.

      the bill of “rights” in most cases also, as written, applies to folks in the borders too.

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        Thank you! So many people don’t realize that. It’s even one of the citizenship test questions used when you go through naturalization:

        1. What are two rights of everyone living in the United States?
        • freedom of expression
        • freedom of speech
        • freedom of assembly
        • freedom to petition the government
        • freedom of religion
        • the right to bear arms
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      We know that trump was lying about Renee Good and Alex Pretti because people had their phones with them.

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        Use your phone if you HAPPEN to see something to record while incidentally out and about. If you’re SPECIFICALLY putting yourself out there to protest, document, or obstruct action, it’s insane to bring your actual phone - get a dumb digital camera. It comes with MUCH less liability, and from a purely practical point of view you don’t wind up trying to explain to your phone company why your phone being stomped into bits by a Nazi should be covered by the insurance. Not to mention you can pop the SD card and hide it if you need to. It’s just smarter.

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          A phone can upload automatically, so even if they take it the video is out there.

          Just use a burner phone bought with cash.

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      Definitely don’t bring your own homebrew stingray device to scrape data from the personal phones of gravy-seals.

      No, seriously, it’s probably a huge FCC violation.

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      Its good to have some kind of camera device that can take and upload video. A cheap flip phone is fine for this. If you’re meeting up with other people remove the battery.

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    To be fair protests would be 3000% more effective if everyone had guns.

    Not shooting anybody. Just protest while having guns on the side.

    Everyone at once specifically tho.

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    Accidental Renaissance

    Painting Name: ‘L’solidaritie’ (2019)

    Look at how the other passengers agree to literally turn a blind eye to this

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    Individual acceptance is one thing, but when that acceptance infects thousands it becomes an issue

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      I don’t care if it’s a firefighter or a puppy therapist, whomever stands behind trump is acceptable collateral damage.