I got in a political argument with some clown on Facebook. He managed to retrieve my wife’s cell phone number and our home phone which is unlisted and technically just provided by our Internet company that we never use.
None our personal info is really available on Facebook and our profiles are pretty locked down, but he called my wife’s phone a few times last week which she has blocked and never answers. Comes up as anonymous on her id.
He tried our home phone 16 times which I ignored, everything stopped, he called again tonight. I decided to answer. He said he knows where I live my wife and daughters name, and our address. He never gave out that though and that he is coming to kill us. Said that on the line
I have called my local police department. But this is rural Nebraska they said they can’t do anything or have our phone companies run a trace.
Is there anything I can do to figure out who this guy is?
Home security.
Get a basic gun. Practice at a range. If you can afford it, invest in security cameras.
I guess you could involve a lawyer if the situation becomes untenable.
Don’t panic; theres a 99%+ chance you’ll be fine.
But don’t ignore the 1%. To all the “it’s just an internet troll” folks: see Jonathan Ross, where one such angry troll shot him dead, just because:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Joss
May he rest in peace :(
Jonathan Ross
Godammit you made me think I missed a huge news story
Shotgun to be specific
Get a gun and learn how to use it.
But as other commenters have said, if he was actually intending on killing you, it’d be real stupid to call you in advance to say so. Most likely just wants to scare you.
As i don’t want to divulge too much, some information will be sporatic/somewhat improper.
My family dealt with a neighbor, which of whom I can only describe as a plurality of serial harassers. By that I mean we were not the first, nor the last family for this entire family to explicitly target and fixate on for at least months on end. This was before 2016 to add (they ended up right where you’d expect).
Not just a not ring camera. Seriously DM me and im more than willing to help on the technical side of setting up a Frigate local NVR. Shouldnt cost your more than $200. If you go the home assistant route, it makes it trivial to set up an alarm system with zigbee or simular devices.
Now i have to be careful, among other things the neighbor was having their kids steal our mail, we recorded evidence of such, but they seemingly had a friend in the PD. Im not saying to expect this or necessarily take my advice, but especially being a red area, the cops will not help you if it comes to it. They will be 15 minutes after a shooting is called in.
We had evideable damage and video of one of their kids trying to break in our garage.
They still put my parents enployement at the time in jeopardy.
You get the 2A side of that, but ideally you want to avoid that entirely.
We eventually put up proper cameras, and some of the derangement subsided, floodlights are of particular use.
You cannot let yourself live in paranoia. But similarly you cannot be caught with your pants down.
We were in a ranch, thus no upstairs. They would shine flashlights at our windows. Laser pointer to the eyes would stop them quick.
Your situation is a lot more - forward. But there are pieces of information i believe you could use to your benefit in a preparedness scenario.
Again, DM me if you need any technical help, I’ll be happy to
PS definitely be done with FB. Theres a lot more shit than this one clown to do with that place. Ive been trying to avert my SOs father from something similar as well, but FB is another tool of this admin ib many ways
If someone is stealing your mail, don’t involve the police. That is a task for the postal inspection service, and they don’t play. They are generally the only enforcement branch for postal issues, unless an agreement has been filed for local or other enforcement agencies.
Thank you, hopefully never will have to go for that wringer again, it was very odd seeing state cops be dismissive of clear video evidence to say the least
Get something on your phones to record conversations. Don’t delete your voicemail
The police are useless
Buy a handgun (or a rifle if money’s no object), let me know a budget and I can talk you through what your best options are there if you’d like. I was going to say security system, but a more cost effective solution might be to get deadbolts on all exterior doors (easier the smaller your house is and even easier if you’re in an apartment that’ll let you)
You know the person’s Facebook name? That might help.
Maybe this? https://www.ic3.gov/
I’m sorry that you and your family are going through this, this is a genuinely terrifying situation to be in and you’re not overreacting by going to the police or taking this guy seriously.
Considering your logistics, you should look into getting a firearm if you don’t have one already. It also doesn’t hurt to put in a police report like others suggested. One thing I haven’t seen suggested itt: if there are people in your family that are too young for school/daycare or SAHW you need to think about having a contingency plan for them in case you’re at work. This could be anything from an escape route if someone gets into the house to having neighbors show up at a phone call (or leaving family with them).
Who downvoted this?
Sorry man, that’s freaky. Dude sounds unhinged. What info do you have on him from Facebook? The info he says he has on you - how much did he actually prove by stating it? Could be that he just got the minimum info and is making the most of it to make it sound like he knows a lot more.
When you spoke to him, what kind of accent did he have? Did he sound local?
Can I ask how you know it was him calling your wife? How were you guys able to block his number without being able to view it?
Sounded like a middle aged Trump voter. Profile on Facebook was an anonymous account. Here is the account.
https://www.facebook.com/share/17tf1oeG8S/
Because she would get a call on her phone and then he would call our home phone, both came up anonymous, she said she spoke once and asked for me he said his name was the name from the account.
Info was my wife and daughters name. He has my wife’s phone number somehow, and our home phone. He said he had our address but didn’t say it. However wouldn’t be hard to find, live in a really small town.
Web search finds some Facebook resources:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=report+threat+on+facebook
If you have to do crap like keep a bat next to your bed, you’ve somewhat already lost.
Yeah bro, america has lost. That happened a couple years ago. It hasnt been safe for minorities or lgbt for quite some time.
If you can DM me their name and any other identifying info you have (general city, photos, phone number, email address, social links, etc.) I can maybe provide quite a bit of info on them. I will not say how.
But I would also ask what the end game is here?
The end game is to make sure he’s not a threat. But he did threaten to kill my family. So if the law needs to get involved it can. I linked the Facebook profile. https://www.facebook.com/share/17tf1oeG8S/
That’s all I have on him
I hate to say it, but I absolutely guarantee the law will do nothing but show up afterwards and pick up the pieces. If he does decide to get his fat ass off the couch and come get you, you’ll have to handle him yourself.
Unfortunately I can’t do much with just that.
Keep a gun close, add some cameras, but otherwise this person is probably just a POS troll.
Isn’t Frank Rizzo also one of the monikers used by “The Jerky Boys”? The prank calling group from the 90’s that used to make tapes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jerky_Boys
Yup…
Frank Rizzo – an extremely abrasive, foul-mouthed blue-collar Italian-American New Yorker with bizarre complaints and requests (voiced by Johnny Brennan). Frank curses repeatedly at a potential employer during an inquiry about a job, and accuses the Mickey Mouse character at Disney World of being sexually inappropriate with his children.
I’m sorry to hear you’re dealing with an unhinged lunatic, and I’m frustrated on your behalf that the police won’t do anything. Ironically, you could call the police, threaten to kill their family, and you’ll be picked up for free and taken to a safe place the lunatic can’t get at you
I’d start by identifying what he actually knows. He’s proven he has obtained your names, phone numbers, and probably that you live in Nebraska; which is scary enough, but not enough to find you and cause harm.
Search for your names and phone numbers using multiple search engines. I would look for addresses, or places of work. If he can find out where you work, it makes it much easier for an adversary to find you. An easy place to check is LinkedIn. If there is a connection with your names and where you work, I’d speak with someone at work. Tell them you have a stalker and:
- Ensure any customer support agents are aware they are NEVER to provide personal information about employees, EVEN IF IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR BOSS ON THE PHONE. KnowB4 has some good training resources (not sponsored)
- To inform you if anyone has requested you / your family’s information.
Next time he calls, you can ask him for your address. He’s been pretty up front about the knowledge he has so far, so check his homework and see how far he’s gotten. That will give you an idea if he can actually attack now, or attack later. If he doesn’t know your address / where you work, it doesn’t mean he can’t find out later. I’d also suggest to not lead with (do you know where I work?) as it will give him an idea; but maybe ask him how he plans on killing you? Gruesome, but it’ll let him blab. Maybe ask a friend to do this so you’re not up all night thinking about it.
On the protection side: Unfortunately if the police isn’t willing to help, you’ll have to take matters into your own hands. Idk what the firearm laws are like in Nebraska, but you might want to look into it for self defence. I cant answer legal questions, but I’m more than happy to talk about firearms
Do some of your own counter-intelligence yourself. Look up the guys name, email, phone number; whatever you can get (I wasn’t able to look at the Facebook profile). Build a profile against him. Might help next time you contact the police. Also, write it down somewhere and take screenshots. If he knows you’re onto him, he could delete his accounts.
Finally, speak with a lawyer. They may be able to offer additional advice and bully the courts / police into getting off their asses and helping you more
I’m sorry I can’t do more to help but offer advice and answer questions
Good luck
Swear out a warrant if you have a name.
it’s a pretty bad idea to have a political argument on Facebook, especially with your real name and photograph right next to what you’re saying
I think OP probably understands that now, this isn’t thst helpful considering the position they’re currently in
⬆️ This is what having nothing to add to a conversation and being a fucking prick look like
thank you Steven
Everybodys gangsta til they catch a molotov cocktail to the face. A ring camera, a fire extinguisher. Hard to shoot someone when youre on fire. And you should know theyre coming. The moment anyone enters the threshold, neutralize them. If you want to be a good Samaritan ensure they cant threaten anyone else.
Yeah I’m not gonna molotov a guy inside my own house, I’ll just use an AR. Easier clean up.
Not everyone has an AR nor the neccassary training to use one safely. You cant possibly fuck up a molotov, and it has the benefit of blinding the aggressor which dramatically reduces chances of you recieving return fire. Yeah, fire is a risk, but it sends a pewerful message. I dont think you could get away with putting maga heads on spikes outside your house, so the vague smell of burning flesh might give any further aggressors a clue.
Yet you’re suggesting using a molotov cocktail inside your home is safer? I’m guessing you’ve never used one of those, either (and neither have I mr fbi man that’s very illegal and I would never…) but they’re not exactly super controllable.
Nor are they practical, you have to keep them capped or the gas will evaporate, so you’d have to open it, soak your rag, and stuff it all while saying “hold on mr home invader I’ll be right with you.”
Nor is it legal, the AR is a self defense case that in my state is pretty cut and dry, the Molotov is an unregistered destructive device charge, an arson charge, and probably an attempted murder charge since he’ll likely survive with third degree burns tbh.
I’m assuming you’re joking anyway, but fun to debate nonetheless lol.
Oh wow, didnt realise molotovs are illegal. Obv theyre illegal to use on someone, but merely possessing one being illegal is absurd. Seeing as that is off the table, yeah it seems a firearm is the way to go. Those seem less personal though, and they dont do much to obscure your location so return fire is to be expected. I guess my only advise there is to use hollow point so you dont shoot your neighbors.
Well it is illegal to posses, unless you successfully register it as a destructive device with ATF but if you had the qualifications you needed you’d know about it, so we can’t do it.
For sure hollow points though.
