Our old fridge still works but the icemaker and water dispenser broke and then started to spray outside and leak inside if connected.
But we kept it and put it in the garage and keep beverages in it. Man does it feel opulent to have a garage drink fridge.
Kind of like when I became able to afford paper towels. Pure wealth and extravagance.
Garage drink fridge is the most underrated luxury item out there. Total life changer.
Stuck on step one, where do I get a garage
Start a tech company. They spawn garages as part of their “backstory” stage.
Do NOT buy Samsung appliances
Yeah knowing them they’ll need to be hooked up to the internet and have mandatory apps. Also they steal the data of the food you eat.
Im not saying buy Samsung but my two fridges, one 5+ years and one closer to 9 years still work. No idea about other appliances. In Europe.
The only problem I had with my Samsung fridge was that the shelves kept breaking. They were expensive to replace too and kept breaking. Eventually I installed a wooden shelf haha that lasted way longer than their plastic. Looked rustic too haha
It was always cold though. Never stopped working
My mom’s Sammy washer from 2021 ended up with a damaged control board. The part is no longer available, she ended up buying a while new one 😬
My Samsung Dishwasher was ass. Had to get rid of it because it didn’t clean well.
I got one of those and they had to replace it twice before it even worked I just sent it back and got a bosch
I ended up getting a used LG dishwasher and it work really well, but during kitchen renovations I think dust got into the motor, it got noisy, ran being noisy for a couple year and it got rid of it, but it still worked. My parent LG fridge broke multiple times under warranty, never ran right and was related to the lg linear compressor lawsuit. I have a GE dishwasher now that seems okay, but the cycle is over 3hr!
3-year-old fridge went out two weeks ago. Guy finally showed up to put the compressor in today. Left and it started rattling. Help.
If you’re being serious try shimming it, determine where the noise is and chuck a block between. My brand new Whirlpool rattles because the floor is uneven so I have a small piece of wood between the floor and front bottom piece which takes care of it.
I am lol. It sound like a loose belt in a car motor just slapping rapidly. I may look into your idea (and thank you), but since we bought it it has been through two homes and many positions on the kitchen floor and the sound never occurred before this technician got in there and replaced the compressor. I’m not confident it’s the position. Sounds like something loose deep inside.
He didn’t remove the air iirc
I had to have my jazz board replaced twice on a very expensive Amana fridge. I don’t know the answer.
Except in this case this particular fridge has worked for 40 years already, so just by Bayesian statistics it is more likely to keep working than a modern one from a range that are known to break. Same reason why some old cars are getting more expensive nowadays.
You can still buy high quality, lasts a lifetime, refrigerators. We have grown accustomed to $400 refrigerators that will last five to ten years worth of doing a piss poor job (freezing some areas while not cooling others). A “buy it for life”, excellent refrigerator of equal size will run you $10k+. Most people will opt to buy the less expensive one every few years, either for economic reasons, or because they feel that it is a better deal to replace the $400 fridge every five years than to pay thirty times the price for a high-end/professional unit.
Most people will opt to buy the less expensive one every few years, either for economic reasons, or because they feel that it is a better deal to replace the $400 fridge every five years than to pay thirty times the price for a high-end/professional unit.
Unless they live to be 170+ (assuming they’re 20 when they buy their own fridge) the $400 one every 5 years is definitely a better deal than one that lasts a lifetime and costs 30x as much.
That’s ignoring all the problems created by those fridges failing at random.
Still, the GP’s ratio is wild. There’s no way a fridge that lasts a lifetime costs 30x more to make. It’s all monopoly practices.
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As a mechanic, I had a Miele in my condo, and now have a Bosch Benchmark (both built ins with custom panels) in my new house. Both were $10k+.
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There are normal people that can afford them.
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I earned it.
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Do they come with a lifetime guarantee too? Because it’d be next to impossible for most working class people to spend that kind of money on a fridge; but even if they could, do they have a guarantee that it’s not going to be broken trash in 5/10/20 years like a cheaper fridge?
If you spend 400€ at least you know you can afford to buy a new one when/if it breaks.
This is the debate we had when redoing our kitchen. It hurt me to add $8k to the bill (the difference) just for the fridge, but it really is genuinely a different experience. At least it came with a 6 year manufacturer warranty too.
The drawers glide smoothly on real hinges with a soft close, the shelves are individually lit and glass, what plastic there is is thicker and smoother. Everything is easy to adjust or remove for cleaning. It even has a cartridge that removes ethylene gas and produce stays noticeably much fresher.
And as a bonus, I got to support a union manufacturer in the US (subzero).
Six years? At $8K? That’s ridiculous.
Apologies, 6yr full service warranty, 12yr system warranty.
We had a $2k fridge that broke within a few years of owning it. We got it fairly discounted due to a dent in the side.
Our $150 fridge from Sears is still in the garage, and still runs perfectly after owning it for 13 years. Looks pretty much like the one in the pic.
Or when you get tired of the ads on the new one.
When my wife and I bought our house almost 30 years ago, it didn’t have a fridge or a washer and dryer. It had a dishwasher and a range. We bought the fridge and washer and dryer when we moved in.
We’ve replaced the range twice and the dishwasher, washer, and dryer three times each.
The fridge is coming apart at the seams, but it still keeps food cold. Most of the door shelves are gone. Both crispers have broken and been put back together with epoxy. The deli drawer is cracked such that it falls out of its track and has to be carefully put back. We want to replace it, but every time we get ready to, another large appliance bites the dust and its replacement gets postponed again.
I’m afraid to even talk to my wife about replacing it at this point because it feels like if I mention it, the washer and dryer will go.
Do you have landfills or junk yards in you area? You might be able to scrounge up parts for that fridge.
All my drawers broke too, as well as the jazz board, twice. Pieces of shit.
It’s supposed to be a meme, but it’s solid advice for any appliance. They used to have lifetime guarantees. Now they upload AI garbage and lock features behind paywalls. Then, they’ll randomly break down one week after the one year warranty.
I got a new Whirlpool fridge, not a smart one, when I moved into my house less than a year ago. The water filter has already demanded it be changed.
Thankfully these filters aren’t RFID tagged like some, so I could just reset the timer.
Hear me out: cover it in foil tape, like the kind used for HVAC. instant “modern” fridge
On the subject of devices lasting a long time, does anybody remember when Ikea used to have displays in their stores where you could see a machine testing a piece of furniture over and over? Like, they had one that simulated someone sitting down in a chair over and over again, or one that simulated a drawer being opened over and over again.
Those machines were great. They should bring them back.
What decade we talkin’ cause I do not remember but would have never left the store if there was a punishment robot there
Here’s a video from 2012:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s_gyzshNPQ
And another one from 2012 testing cupboards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6RsT4w2hY
Ooh, here’s ine from 2018 where a machine hit 9,999,999 tests
“What is my purpose?”
“You open and close drawers.”
“Oh my God.”
Somewhat relevant: when I first searched for those videos I searched for “robot that tests Ikea chairs by sitting on them” or something. I got lots of results, but every one of them was about robots that were building furniture, not testing it. To actually get the results I wanted I needed to say “furniture testing machine”.
So, I guess the Internet doesn’t think those are actually robots, so they don’t worry about their purpose.
I 'member them from early 90s till late 2ks.
Funny and all, but interesting, the life span of appliences has remained fairly steady: https://studyfinds.org/appliances-made-to-last/
The study (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/share/EWYZVBTQDFJXHTV9PPUQ?target=10.1111%2Fjiec.13608) found that most appliances last a similar number of years, and that the number of cycles each appliance lasts has increased (ie we use them more often). notable exception was a stove.
Basically, survivorship bias.
Microsoft just basically tried to force most everyone using a Windows 10 system to purchase a new system, ostensibly over a flaw/shortcoming in the TPM module.
Samsung just started pushing advertisements into their fridge’s Android displays.
Apple and the mobile ISPs have been pushing a ‘replace every two years’ agenda for well over a decade.
I think the ‘short life span’ here has more to do with the ‘modern CPU fridge controller’ “failing” due to planned obsolescence, and not as such the mechanics of the refrigerant systems themselves.
I mean, sure? but pretty much everyone of your examples is about general computing, and while i HATE the samsung fridge thing… it doesnt mean it will die any earlier.
Yes, but these new smart fridges are just classic fridges with a general purpose computer attached. Do you think Samsung is going to offer a replacement/upgrade kit for the embedded tablet, or do you think they’ll use it as leverage to sell you a new fridge?
Still doesn’t change when the physical components are likely to die.
You are telling me I’m going to have to replace my car because it’s infotainment unit is out of date.
If the infotainment system doubles as the gearshift as a deliberate way to marry the two, yes! Try driving a Tesla (well don’t because of bad corporate ownership; but still, as example):
- The steering wheel isn’t connected to the wheels, it’s connected to the computer.
- The windshield wipers are controlled by the computer.
- Everything in the security system checks in by the computer.
- The car can be remotely disabled by the computer
If they can make a vroom vroom box dependent on a computer, why do you think a chill box is exempt?
- “I’m sorry, but the temperature control requires registering an account in the app”
- “Oh, the in-door icebox needs a subscription, but you’re welcome to use trays in the freezer if you prefer”
- “You missed your installment payment, please pay in 3 days or cooling functionality will be suspended”
- “The child door lock has been automatically engaged for your safety”
- “The fridge of the future requires an always on internet connection”
You think CEOs aren’t just itching to pull crap like this? What use is it if the motor technically operates, if the controls simply refuse to turn it on?
I’m sorry, but I’m talking about the real world, where things actually happen.
I already shared you the study on lifespan of appliances over the decades, and how the old ones we still working are usually due to survivorship bias, I’m not sure what more you want.
I’m just not interested in arguing made up hypotheticals.
Excuse me. I was a few days early … now can we discuss this?
https://apnews.com/article/ces-worst-show-ai-0ce7fbc5aff68e8ff6d7b8e6fb7b007d
“Everything is an order of magnitude more difficult,” she said of the fridge that also uses computer vision to track when food items are running low and can advertise replacements.
The South Korean tech giant also said “security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge.
You can also use it as a backup for when your new fridge plays a two-minute ad before you can open it.
grabs shotgun “play one more fucking ad, I dare you”
silly naive lemmy user. Garages are for renting out at $1000/mo
