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    Please report any pro-US-empire comments so we can ban them ASAP.

    We aren’t going to let people come into this space and justify US crimes like kidnapping heads of state, murdering innocent people, and starting wars based on lies.

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      Captured is for people at war. Kidnapped is the right term for what happened here.

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      The manufacturing consent is going brazy today. I read a few headlines that had attack, in quotation marks. Like “attack”.

      The fuck are the quotation marks for? Who we quotin? Just call a fucking spade a spade

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    Maduro might be an idiot, but the press needs to be vigilant here.

    “What right does the US have to do this?”

    “So other countries can do this to the US for similar reasons and not expect repercussions?”

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      Kidnapping of a head of state is completely illegal, and south american countries should be uniting and mobilizing for coming wars with the US to prevent similar intrigues in their own countries.

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        They don’t want to, they could do that easily.
        He is not liked as it is by ukrainians, and he would be replaced by the fascist Zalushny.
        Last year Zelenski gave medals to troops and Russia waited until he left to strike the building.
        They know exactly where he is and when.

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          He is not liked as it is by ukrainians

          Absolute nonsense. Show data.

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    Viva Maduro. The US Empire is kidnapping a democratically elected president and his family in order to gain ownership of Venezuelan oil fields. The vassals in Europe only care that their master needs consent manufacturing, but the good working people around the world can see right through this naked terrorism and those that support it.

    May the empire and its vassals fall.

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        Nope! Bullshit from the US Empire to manufacture consent for invasion, same as they did for Saddam and the supposed WMD.

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          It wasn’t from the US I heard this from, it was from locals interviewed by Michael Palin. Didn’t really take him for a US stooge

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            A western for-TV series run by a comedian is standard affair for propagandizing. Not all Venezuelans support Maduro, he got 51% of the vote, so it would be pretty easy to find people opposing him. That said, the working classes support him.

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              I understand it’s not the best source but it’s not like I was pulling it out my arse. It seems like the situation is very nuanced over there but no matter what, the US shouldn’t be involved in whatever mess is happening regardless.

              Also I would say he’s no longer a comedian first and has primarily been a travel documentarian for about 50 years now, one who pioneered the format in fact. He also puts a big focus on the culture and the people of the places he visits.

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                The nuances are that Maduro is continuing the legacy of Hugo Chavez, trying to nationalize resources and industry to keep wealth for Venezuelans, rather than the US and Europe. Venezuelans that were very wealthy before the Bolivarian revolution fled mainly to places like Miami, similar to Cubans that fled from Castro. The US-backed faction is small but loud, and wants Venezuela to be recolonized so that they can take their position as compradors once again. The working classes support Maduro and the Bolivarian revolution.

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    I think the whole “we’re taking over Venezuela” is just your typical Trump bravado. I believe user xiaohongshu on Hexbear has the correct angle:

    I think everyone is too fixated on the empire getting into a long war but I don’t think that’s the goal here.

    Just like Trump’s B-2 stunt on Iran’s Fordow back in June, the US operation was a quick in, quick out operation. Nothing seems to have significantly changed on the surface, but the message has been sent. The US is sowing political instability in the region, and it scares away foreign investments especially China’s.

    Just look at China-Iran trade numbers, it’s plunging by 20% this year. Chinese investors are pulling away because they cannot see profitable return in Iran and the surrounding regions. This worsens the economic condition in Iran, and months later, we see the Iranians protesting as a result.

    The same play is being replicated in Venezuela here against Latin America. The US has no interest in getting dragged into a long war. It wants to demonstrate how easily it can upset the political balance in Latin America. Do you seriously think that Chinese investors will still want to invest billions on Venezuela seeing how easily the leadership can be kidnapped?

    The investment’s gone, and the US simply has to sit back and wait for the situation to deteriorate even further, and the regime change opportunity will present itself. But it’s not even about Venezuela, it’s about the US dominance over Latin America.

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    the spineless goons of the us, the “international commubity” just stand and watch as the us robs and plunders a nation. where are the campaigns against us propaganda? where’s the shipment of attack drones? where’s the dehumanization of every amerikkkan?

    if atrocities serve their masters or themselves they just turn a blind eye.

    the usa is the devil, a cancer - we all know that. but the regurgitation of US propaganda and lack of condemnation by allied states is a shame.

    here’s hoping some western “leftists” realize that they defend their enemy.

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          Hey everyone, when I plugged in my PC I didn’t get any motherboard lights, but I’m very lucky, because an ex-tenant who I’m still friends with, recently gifted me his old PC. I just put my old SSD into his old PC and used the power and SATA cable that were originally connected to the CD drive. Bingo!

          Here, have some memes!

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          I took a pic of this comment and I’ll get back to you if I plug in the pc. I can upload images on here right? I just don’t see many people posting images as replies.

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    I will be honest, I was expecting the US to do IOF / Palantir type actions and try to take out government and civilian leadership several levels deep. While taking out a single leader rarely does anything, removing an entire leadership structure in an already unstable situation can be devastating. The fact that, for now, the US is stopping at “just” Maduro encourages me that the Bolivarian Revolution will continue on, now with even more support from the people.

    I think now it will be a battle of how much the Trump admin can do in the face of international condemnation (outside of US vassal states, that is) and likely increased support of Venezuela from its neighbors. Trump will almost certainly dig in on sanctions until Venezuela hands over their oil. But I don’t see that happening, so I don’t know what happens.

    America is truly an evil country.

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      Trump has admitted that there are a lot of CIA agents in Venezuela. It was also suspiciously easy for the USA to get Maduro out of the country.

      My guess is that the USA likely expects a coup to happen which will install a friendly regime.

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    As an American citizen, I’m 150 fucking percent against this in all ways shape and form. I don’t know how to prevent this from continuing but I’ll be looking for any chance at having this country both formally apologizing and prosecuting the idiots responsible.

    What goddamn horrible news to wake up to, my apologies to our fellow people on spaceship earth.

    E: did anyone notice the not-so-veiled threat against Cuba?

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      I’ve started reminding people with youngs sons that they need to sign up for the draft. Always interesting when you ask the ones i know vote republican suddenly realize their votes could kill their kids. Glad I’m old enough to avoid this shit.

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          Yes, two parties, one right wing and the other fascist as is. The US never was a real democracy for the people, only for Billonairs, Big Corporations and several economic and media lobbies which are making the policy to their like. Feudalism v2.0

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      I was just explaining to some of my overseas friends how embarrassed and ashamed I was of the current administration, domestically and abroad.

      Less than 24 hours later, this fucking disgrace.