Reminds me of the Crowdstrike incident last year.
Seems like it.
Reminds me of the Cloudflare incident this year.
And the Cloudflare incident also this year.
Reminds me of the Cloudflare incident this year.
And the Cloudflare incident also this year.
Were those as big as this one? Somehow I missed them.
Oh man, these global outages are really getting out of hand. A few days after the recent AWS and Azure outages, I suddenly noticed that I couldn’t reach certain webpages anymore. And I genuinely didn’t even bother trying to debug, because I just assumed that it’s another global outage.
In the evening, I did look into it and noticed that my router was at fault (presumably DNS got bugged by a recent update). That was just wild to me, that I genuinely deemed it more likely that several major webpages went offline together than that my home setup is fucky.
To be fair, it’s never DNS ;]
To be fair, it’s never DNS ;]
Sometimes it’s BGP.
Well yeah. Yourrouter is managed by a person. We aren’t as good at fucking up as mega corps.
I mean, sure, I do understand what’s happening on a logical level. I’m just so baffled, because this whole internet thingamabob was architected by the military.
It was intentionally built, so that parts of it could fail without disrupting the rest. When a corporation fucks up, it was supposed to take down the servers of that corporation, not also a good chunk of the rest.But unfortunately, this internet thingamabob is merely the closest approximation we have for the “perfect market” that economics theory calls for, so it still doesn’t actually self-regulate like that whole theory would love to believe.
In fact, it is so much worse, because now monopolization happens across the whole planet. Particularly also because we don’t have a functioning “world government” that could enforce competition at that level via laws.So, the network leads to companies monopolizing on top of it and then monopolies necessitate that the respective companies do as poor of a job as possible, because this reduces costs and increases profits. As a result, major parts of this military-grade internet now falter every few weeks.
Yep. The resilient system got corrupted by capitalism, which is an inherently monopolizing centralizing destabilizing enshittifying exploitation algorithm.
The world’s richest man can’t even keep his own website up and accessible. But the guys hosting the fedi in their garage are just fine. Lol
tbf, the scales are slightly different
I mean, isn’t that part of the point? Decentralization to smaller systems
He should be able to afford a lot more redundancy than our garage hosters.
The scale makes it more embarrassing, not less.
Lemmy.ca was down
It reminds me more of the AWS outage last month.
It’s probably not half of the Internet, but the fact that it’s so many very visible sites should be a warning sign to everyone that the Internet is nowadays too reliant on a few points of failure (which can cause other problems, e.g. censorship).
From a security perspective when you consider this, along with our reliance on mobile phones, POS systems, digital payment processors, iot devices, cell phone providers, etc etc.
Sooner or later someone with ill intent is going to savagely fist fuck the whole fucking ecosystem to death and take a shit on the flaming wreckage.
Law enforcement neither understands nor gives a fuck about tech for the most part, unless you’re dealing with high end espionage type shit. Good luck getting officers dunning and Krueger to take action on anything suspicious when they think their ability to use an iPhone means they’re the greatest thing to happen to tech since the microprocessor.
The makers of consumer tech products could give a fuck about security. Wireless providers similarly could not give a squirt of fucking piss about security as long as you’re paying your monthly bills and they can harvest data. Politicians only care insofar as they’re able to use tech to push their moral bullshit, control and police peoples’ actions. It goes on and on and on and on.
We are reliant on all manner of tech products, both hardware and software, to participate in modern life, and yet the political apparatus treats it all like it’s disposable, as if it’s 1996 and it doesn’t matter if all of this goes to shit.
We are a naked, drunk 16 year old girl at a frat house with a sign that says “fuck me, I’m wasted” around our necks and we’re pretending like there are no consequences to this, or worse yet that nothing bad will happen.
Cloudflare is in an interesting space. They are a service provider (ddos protection, scalable edge caching, SSL termination, etc) that allows the highly centralized internet to function. However they aren’t a gatekeeper at all. You only need cloudflare if you are in the top 5% of internet websites by volume. So when cloudflare has a problem, Lemmy isn’t affected, but Reddit is. My blog isn’t affected, but someone like https://blog.ipspace.net/ is affected.
My personal browsing habbits meant I didn’t even realize there was a cloudflare problem until I read an article about it on Lemmy. Anyway, just a tangent, but as a network engineer I’m sure i’ll be interested in the RCA.
Payment processors another censor choke.
There’s some malicious satisfaction watching centralized internet burning in dumpster fire while your self hosted stuff is still up
Except many of us use cloudflare tunnels to reach our selfhosted kit from the internet because we’re behind CGNATs…
Isn’t cloudflare a pretty common part of remotely accessing your server? I don’t use it but I’ve seen lots of people talk about it and recommend using them.
yes. it also prevents attacks. it’s basically a necessity these days.
if you host your own stuff and get any traffic you’ll get DDoSed by bots. cloudflare prevents this by detaching your DNS from your IP and distributing requests.
just port forwarding on your home network these days… and you’ll get dozens of attacks per hour.
the internet is not ‘nice’ anymore. services like cloudflare are a necessity for any active services beyond personal use. long gone are the days you could host a web server from your bedroom.
Maybe you guys are hosting more than me but I’ve got a few ports forwarded and don’t see any unusual activity. I guess I’m just lucky.
For me what triggered getting a lot of malicious login attempts in the logs was pointing a dns record directly at my ip
Ah, yeah I don’t do that. Haven’t had much of a reason to so far. Only have a few minor convenience type services opened up
I haven’t exposed anything to internet and self hosted headscale instance. I’m not behind CGNAT so it was quite easy.
hell yea
Are they vibe-coding or something?
Either that or DNS :)
Probably
most mortem is here: https://blog.cloudflare.com/18-november-2025-outage/
it was not a ddos.
Never replace your code monkeys with clankers, boys.
Yes. All my fedi services are still happy tho :)
Piefed.ca
iswas down because of it :( Edit: it’s back online!
In short: yes, because Cloudflare is the man in the middle between you and half the internet, most pages use it’s service.
The age old question: was it DNS or LLM?
i’m usually on frontends, alternatives and self-hosted services. i’m barely seeing any of those outages.
feeling cool rn ngl 😎
Anyone have a decent guide on migrating from CF tunnels over to a proper reverse proxy? I hate networking 😓
Check out traefik, not sure how easy or the process to switch but configuring it is relatively easy
I’m not sure this is what I’m looking for, I appreciate it though!
I’m hoping for something where the only thing I need to have on someone elses system is DNS entries, ideally.
I know I can use duckdns to automatically update my dns entries when my public IP expires (residential conn), and I know how to handle setting up DNS entries themselves(I hate dns 😓) but I’m just not sure how to configure nginx or apache. As it stands the only “get this thing on the web” tool I’m actually proficient with is streamlit, which I can’t use with my selfhosted tools.
That’s how I use it, cloudflare handles my DNS and traefik does all the routing, I’d have to look again (been a year since I set it up) but it dynamically updates with my IP
Oh amazing, thank you, I’ll take a look at the docs this afternoon 😊
I used these guides to get set up https://www.simplehomelab.com/
It’s so funny :P just months ago one of my most used forums adopted cloudflare and many asked “Are you sure?”. Well…
Weird. Didn’t notice because Cloudflare blocks my real user traffic because I have the audacity to use a VPN and Firefox with privacy extensions that block like maybe two of their arsenal of fingerprinting tools.
