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A teacher showed us the documentary An Inconvenient Truth and the real truth I learned from that, is that the majority of adults are irresponsible crybabies.
Everyone is just faking it. And those that don’t, don’t have the attention of those that listen.
Its because most people only care about their comfort and convenience right now and in the very near future.
Boomer: “Climate change will be your burden to suffer through”.
Gen Z: “It’s not fair. You got a full life of profligacy before the effects were even noticeable. I get none of the material wealth and I’m going to have to live my whole long life suffering increasing effects of it.”
Boomer: “Not so long.”
Also boomers: “When are you having kids? I want grandchildren.”
Told my mom I didn’t want kids and she said, “Oh you’ll change your mind”
I came out to my mom as gay and she said “well you can always adopt”
Then I started intense birth control treatments for my fucked up reproductive system and she was like, “you can still adopt”
Yeeted my uterus, cervix, and fallopian tubes just before my bday this summer and threw a fuckin party afterwards because now there is absolutely no way I can ever be a parent AND my reproductive system can’t do whatever the fuck it wants cause it doesn’t exist!
My mom finally accepted that this part of the family tree has ended after that. This while process happened over 18 years. I started telling her I didn’t wanna be a parent when I was TEN.
Edit: I should prolly say that my mom isn’t a boomer, but Gen X. She’s surrounded constantly by boomers and other members of Gen X who act like boomers so she has picked up a lot of the traits. Practically demanding grandchildren was the worst boomer thing she’s done so far, and I hope it stays that way.
“well you can always adopt”
As if adoption wasn’t an extremely intensive process that goes on for who knows how many years and even then it’s not guaranteed you’ll actually get the kid. Let alone how much it differs from DIY.
Thank you for your service.
What action in my timeline are you referring to as my service lol
Lol. Not having kids is one of the most ethical choices we can make.
Ah. See, I don’t want children because I’m what you call a selfish person and want to live my life completely unbound. Kids would just kill my dreams and the vibe.
The ethical part is just a bonus to make me feel even better about my decision.
This guy’s an anti-natalist, I wouldn’t take seriously anything he fucking says.
Fuck off. Anti-natalism is eugenics and anyone who advocates for it is a Nazi in my eyes. Not to mention 90% of you all just project your major depression and misery into literal 8 year olds. Please just go to therapy.
Every conversation people have about “degrowth” and “the earth has too many people” always leads to someone advocating for eugenics OR LITERAL GENOCIDE. The Earth, right at this moment, can hold ten billion people. The problem is capitalism, consumerism and food waste.
Everything you don’t like or understand is Nazi?
Degrowth. It’s not antinatalism, nor eugenics. But simple people need simple answers. It’s ethically shrinking humanity’s population and consumption to within what the earth can sustain. That’s it.
You know what hole to shove your Nazi bullshit up.
Selfishness incarnate lol
I once saw it described as the Boomers being the “fuck around” generation and Gen Z being the “find out” generation.
Yep. And your generation will do the same, and it will go on like this until it can’t be ignored anymore, because that’s what humans do, whatever the age.
It literally cannot be ignored anymore.
“You don’t miss the water until the well runs dry” has never been a more true expression. People expect that if something is going wrong here’d be immediate and apparent consequence. It seems like a vast majority of people completely lack the skill of extended foresight, where one can look at a current situation and see how it can accumulate into a worse situation later.
A great example of this was my mom during COVID-19:
“All this pandemic talk is just nonsense. I’m not seeing people dying on the streets, now, am I?”
If the effects of climate change aren’t immediately apparent with some big global disaster happening overnight, then it’s not a big issue or simply not real.
If eating something that causes long term health risks doesn’t immediately make you sick overnight then it’s not a big issue or simply not real.
As for your last point, that is literally how I feel because I know for a fact that I will die from water wars before it matters
If water wars start in my lifetime, it’s game over for me. I will not let myself live through that shit.
Check out Ethiopia and Egypt, Pakistan and India, China and Vietnam/Laos.
Some are more hot than others but these are all conflicts over lowering water levels and increasing demand. Even within the USA, there are conflicts between states in the southwest and with Mexico over the Colorado river kind of… Just not existing anymore.
That’s what I’m saying, people don’t deal with problems until they’re forced to.
And climate change, while having effects all over the world, doesn’t affect everyone with the same intensity, so the luckiest among us can afford to ignore the problem longer than the rest. Of course the luckiest usually are also the ones with the most power to deal with these issues.
until it can’t be ignored anymore
At which point the fascist governments people have voted into power will keep on going as they were while murdering some convenient scapegoats, until mass scale industrialised human society collapses, never to recover because we used up all our resources.
Edit: I honestly think people don’t quite understand that once all this bullshit collapses, there will probably never be another high tech civilisation on Earth again: all the easily extractable resources will have been used up, and the amount of energy required to extract more would be higher than what will be available once oil-based hydrocarbons have been more or less used up. Magic batteries that require a ton of resources won’t fix the situation, and we have no large scale replacement for oil.
The large scale replacement for oil is the original source of that energy, the sun. Sure it will take a while, but high technology (read small computers) doesn’t actually require hydrocarbons, it just requires knowledge of physics. Modern society is based on hydrocarbon fuels because they’re so convenient, but that doesn’t mean it’s required for any of our technology to function. We will likely be combusting hydrocarbons for the rest of our existence, they’re just too convenient for energy storage, but the source of those hydrocarbons could easily be specialized cyanobacteria farms or direct chemical synthesis. Both of those technologies already exist, but we have never done any significant investment in them because they would have to compete with basically picking up what’s already lying around. In the absence of significant oil deposits we will be forced to make those technologies work.
All that still requires other resources though, and I’m not convinced that something like direct synthesis would be viable considering the energy use – renewables don’t generate energy from thin air, but the systems usually require eg. rare earth materials (which need to be mined, which currently takes oil, and then the systems need to be produced which requires more energy)
You may not know this but oil comes from cyanobacteria or algae blooming, dieing, and falling to the bottom of ancient lakes. We can farm them better than they could ever grow on their own in nature, just like we do with corn, rice, wheat, and a hundred other crops. The only complex part would be the scale required. We have the technology to industrialize hydrocarbon production that way today. Life isn’t magic, so there’s no reason we couldn’t do direct synthesis with more controlled processes. And yeah it’s going to require resources. Everything does. It’s just pretty fatalistic to think we won’t be able to bootstrap ourselves up to current technologies without oil when we’ve already done it once before. Oil just makes scale possible, not the technology itself.
Keep kicking it down the street.
narrator: yes, yes they did.
This comic is TERRORISM according to Trump’s Republican Party!
“WE ARE ALL DOMESTIC TERRORISTS” -CPAC 2022
I remember a similar comment made by one my highschool teachers. Because I was such a try-hard cringe edge lord I said something like “if my generation got rid of your generation, then we’ve solved that problem”.
funny thing is, this was true 40 years ago, and it’s true today.
The problem is Capitalism.
Yes.
… next question?
Stupid generations war. As stupid as men vs women, religion vs religion etc. It should be smart people vs stupid greedy sociopaths
I want to hear what he thinks his generation’s problem to solve was.
High gasoline prices.
Protesting a lot at age 20, then becoming a square.
99% probability: Cold war/communism
We have a circus we gotta run out of town first
Do you think if we had lifespan in the centuries we’d have a different perspective?
Not under capitalism. The wealthiest will do just fine in climate collapse and they’re planning for it. They don’t care about anything beyond the next fiscal quarter in terms of environment.
I was thinking like this when I decided to go into the field, like “we can’t just doom the next generation and peace out”, now i’m deep in it at the highest level and i’m like “ooh that’s why…”
The problem is, there are egotistical maniacs with nukes trying to enslave society for the benefit of the 1% or to satisfy their own ideals while sacrificing everybody else’s needs/safety. If they decide to nuke everything, there won’t be a world left to protect against even this.
