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Is this a dig at pitbulls?
Yes, it is and people are assholes.
Yes, pit bull bites are more dangerous. No, that doesn’t mean they should all be euthanized. They need proper training and that’s it.
You’re missing the blindingly obvious solution that should be taken: spay and neuter them so that no new ones are bred.
Unfortunately there is a feedback loop somewhere.
Pitbulls have a reputation for being dangerous tough guy dogs, so “tough guys” get pitbulls and proceed to not treat them well, this give pitbulls the reputation of being dangerous tough guy dogs.
I live in Copenhagen, however, and I’ve seen some very nicely treated pitbulls, even one that was part of a family. They can be so gentle.
So can guns.
Guns don’t get old and have a bad day killing their owner. Pitbulls do unfortunately. I’ve seen good ones and bad ones but when they are hurting or just grumpy old farts they can go off. The difference between a shitzu and and pitbull doing that is the pitbull is powerful and the shitzu is annoying.
Counterpoint, hipoints
Guns are weapons. Not lifeforms.
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That’s exactly how everyone talks about their pitbull until it rips their child to pieces.
They need proper training and that’s it.
Tuesday that 30-year-old (…) was found dead Monday night at a home near Newington from an apparent dog attack. (…) He says an autopsy revealed Wilcox died as a result of injuries received from the attack.
Investigators say Wilcox was familiar with the pets at that residence and had handled them safely on numerous occasions in the past. None of the dogs in the home had any known history of viciousness or aggression
Pitbulls are a breed designed to kill.
You can have a Border Collie and it will be shepherding sheep on a screen, or dust motes on the floor, because it’s in their DNA.
Killing and aggression are in the DNA of Pitbulls.
Stop being weird.
This is it, full stop. Dogs are individuals and should be treated as such.
I helped raise and home two litters of Staffordshire pups, we kept a rigorous list of the owners that we interviewed and checked the homes once a year to monitor the dogs progression. We made the owners sign a contract stating that if the living standards weren’t up to snuff, we could reclaim the dogs. I worked with a fellow who raised Staffies for 30 years. In two litters, we had around a dozen well trained, friendly huggable porkchops. Two litters that had no recorded bites past a few months old (puppys nibble but can be trained), and showed no aggression with other animals. All those pups lived to old age, and passed in happy homes. I’ve also met too many pitbulls that were beyond any help i had to offer. Damaged dogs damaged by poor parenting.
I know my story is anecdotal, and i don’t expect to change minds here, but i cant stand the outrage against such lovable dorks when something like the chihuahua exists.
One the oldest around.
If you know what breed it’s talking about, that suggests there’s probably some truth to it
That’s not a valid argument, since it can be used elsewhere. Using that argument would confirm any racist or sexist stereotype as well, since you know what they mean. Just because someone has heard let’s see, that Jewish people are lizard aliens who drink blood and adrenochrome from babies doesn’t mean there’s some truth to it.
I’m not using the above as an argument against pit bulls having aggressive natures; I mostly stay out of that argument (though the one pit I remember was a lovely pup). I am saying that as an argument backing up the aggressive claim, it’s a bad one to use.
Stereotypes about groups of humans are politically motivated. Not true of dog breeds.
You might want to adjust your thoughts on the second. Studies have shown that pit bulls are associated with black people, and that people who have unfavorable views of black people, especially as being violent, also have a correlation to negative views of pit bulls. You can find one such study here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11213322/
Question: “If you had to guess, do you think Black people or white people are more likely to own the following dogs?” Source: Pooled Lucid Surveys, June-July 2020, August 2021.
Not everyone dislikes based on racial association, but to claim there is none only illustrates that your argument is both invalid and uninformed.
Studies have shown that pit bulls are associated with black people, and that people who have unfavorable views of black people, especially as being violent, also have a correlation to negative views of pit bulls
Not OP, but - this has nothing to do with racism, WTF are you talking about?
“Studies have shown”… My god, studies have shown that a breed created for violence and bloodthirst has a higher probability of being violent and bloodthirsty than those that weren’t, that’s literally all the context there was!
You kneejerked answered without even reading the linked study, didn’t you?
Of course I didn’t read the study, because it’s off topic.
Pitbull kills white dog trainer.
Pitbull of a black dog trainer kills another dog
Race of the human has nothing to do with the fact that the fucking dogs were designed to maim and kill, dude.
“If you had to guess” sounds like you are relying on hearsay there bud
Well racism and people’s perception of stereotypes often aren’t backed up by actual statistics.
The study isn’t saying pitbulls are more often owned by black people, it says people think that to be the case regardless of evidence.
It’d be like a study asking what race you think are the worst drivers, even if “most” people say “Asian” because of the common trope, it doesn’t mean that is true statistically, it just means that stereotype is commonly believed by the study’s participants.
Question is to what extent it is the breed versus the owners drawn to or scared away from the breed. These things can be self fulfilling.
This is basically the plot to Alien Earth.
I do not want to downplay how serious an attack from other dog breeds can be, but pit bulls are a breed that was bred for fighting. By that I mean physically the dog was “engineered” for the task. Even if dog attacks occurred across all breeds at the exact same rate, the pit bull will still be more dangerous on average.
This is also ignoring the cultural aspect of it all. Pit bulls have had a long history of attracting some of the worst owners whether they deliberately raise the dog for fighting or are simply negligent, the outcome is increased danger and not just for yourself or your family.
You want to put yourself and your family in danger? Great. Have at it. But expecting me to be put at an increased risk of danger? No. Fuck off.
Pitbulls were “bred to fight” animals, not humans…
Lots of other breeds were bred specifically to attack humans…
Despite all the other issues with your logic, why wouldnt you focus on guard dogs that are explicitly bred and trained to attack and cause serious harm to humans?
Pitbulls were “bred to fight” animals, not humans…
Muscle is muscle. Physics of the dog doesn’t change due to the intent of the breeder. Pugs weren’t explicitly bred to be a physical trainwreck and yet they are and denying that because the breeder was not actively selecting for those traits would be an insane argument. The physics of attacking an “animal” is not very different than the physics of attacking a human (who is actually a very weak and fragile animal)
Despite all the other issues with your logic
Pointless loaded sentence that offers nothing to the conversation
why wouldnt you focus on guard dogs that are explicitly bred and trained to attack
A) That wasn’t the topic at hand
B) I never stated that pit bulls are the only problematic breeds. It was the very first sentence in my comment. You couldn’t even read that far?
C) There aren’t nearly as many noisy defenders of those breeds. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. It’s a topic of discussion because defenders make it a topic of discussion.
Inre pugs, at no point did design enter into the equation
When you say “pitbull” which of the 12 breeds are you discussing? What about mutts? An insane amount of “pitbulls” are actually mutts, many with little to no actual pitbull in them
A family friend had a rescued one, and after they had a kid, it attacked the kid, damn near killed him. He had the dog put down and then…
Rescued another pitbull.
Pitbull owners are a special breed indeed.
Do you believe in evolution by natural selection? Of course I do! Do you believe in evolution by unnatural selection? No! Traits that relate to violence vary strictly as a result of upbringing!
But my smooth carapace hippo would NEVER harm anyone! Just look at it’s happy little smiles!
Did it force you to put that apostrophe into that possessive pronoun that’s already possessive and therefore doesn’t need an apostrophe just like his, hers, theirs, and ours?
Probably. I used mobile and rely on autocorrect for my fat fat thumbs. It just does what it wants.
Wrong alt account
Yes, there are shitty pit bull owners out there.
No, not all pit bulls are aggressive, only non-neutered, poorly trained, or abused ones.
Yes, it’s weird how the comic uses an overweight woman to characterize bad dog owners but not the victims.
Yes, it’s weird how the comic uses an overweight woman to characterize bad dog owners
It also characterises “regular-weight men” as bad dog owners (second panel).
but not the victims
Yeah, let’s stop with the “skinny-girl victim” propaganda! Plus size women can be victims too!
I think the second panel is meant to be the same woman given that their top is the same, the hair is the same length, albeit a darker shade, and in the third panel she is pointing towards the second panel.
I won’t argue about the second panel, even though it wouldn’t make sense story-wise for it to be the same character there, but in the third panel she’s very definitely pointing towards the fourth panel, not the second.
HEEL!
This reminded me of the glorious days of Dark Horse Alien series. Back in the day they did a series called Music of the Spears in which some shady tech bro captured one of the eggs (with NINJAS no less) and tried to keep a xenomorph as his musical buddy to write SYMPHONY OF HATE. It didn’t go well and we got the glorious sequence of xenomorph crashing a rock concert among other things.
Ban Pitbulls
