I’m installing a second disk in my desktop, and I’m going to install Linux.
I’ve had dual boot on all my machines since forever. As in decades. I’m an old hand. Perfectly happy in a terminal.
I have Mint in (on?) my laptop because lazy.
I’m asking about QOL. The only “Gaming” I do are flight Sims, and although I haven’t tried, I believe X-plane is Linux native. However, I do use some apps which are not Linux native, so I’d need some form of wine or performant VMs.
The PC is a Ryzen 9+64Gb, so it should handle a lot of things quite well.
I’ve been playing with both in VMs, but I can’t get a feel for what my virtualization and wine use would be.
BTW, I might do an install of both, maybe side to side, without commitment to either, and then decide. It’s going to be a blank slate install anyway.
From my trials, both seem comfortable enough.
I’ve heard good things about both.
Opinions?
Bazzite is imo the laziest and most hands free way to use Linux. If that’s your jam, use it.
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opensuse if you want to modify the system, bazzite if you just want to do gaming (immutable)
I installed OpenSuSE Slowroll yesterday. I felt underwhelmed by their bad documentation. Their nvidia installation driver wiki was wrong, and resulted in the drivers not working (not all packages were pulled through via dependencies). I opened a bug report and they did a few changes to the wiki very fast (thanks to a nice suse engineer), but the overall wiki page remains utterly convoluted. And I’m mentioning this because even if you might not have to deal with nvidia, the rest of the system receives the same care. YaST is an eye sore with the worst UIX ever designed by man. And after installing the drivers and updating the system, now systemd takes 1.30 minutes to journald it – out of nowhere. It’s just a weird distro, with no attention to detail for end users, imho.
Regarding Bazzite, is a gaming distro. If you only play 1 kind of game that works with Mint, stay with Mint (or Debian-stable).
Wine will never work properly for apps. Sure, it manages to load a few apps, but they are crashy. Reimplementing the Windows API is a massive task that won’t finish for decades. So I suggest you use Linux-native apps instead. I moved from Photoshop to gimp3 too, even if I had the last non-subscription version on CD and it kinda worked with wine (but not really). Same with Affinity Photo, that many people suggest to run on wine, it’s super crashy on wine. So, avoid windows apps via wine. Games do work because they use very little of the windows api.
In other words, stay with what you know works without headaches (Mint), and move to native Linux apps, and Steam for games. I’ve been using Linux since 1998 and I’m comfortable with the terminal too, but I don’t enjoy having troubling installations. I’m at age now that I want things to just work.
I have seen your posts here for a few months and you are far more knowledgeable than I am in Linux. However, I have to say I disagree here. I did use Slowroll for two months and found no problem, nor a need for much wikis, if any… now, I dont have nvidia so maybe that is why. The main developer of Slowroll is awesome (personable and reachable) and his professionalism is what make him not categorize his Slowroll as stable so it is not listed as such. He has previously mentioned the challenges he is facing with the concept, but that can be addressed in due time. Most people in OpenSUSE should use either Tumbleweed or Leap for now.
Regarding OpenSUSE, it is a tad behind Fedora in refinement but minimal. Its biggest handicap, however, is its small footprint in the Linux marketplace, yet still amazing what they had pulled off with their limited resources.
Your beloved Mint, oh gosh, how much I tried to like it, but aesthetics and lack of flexibility kills it for me. It is, hands down, the less problem free one, no questions, it is what I recommend most for someone that need a set-it-and-forget-it distro, Mint is still the one. But I just cannot work happy with Cinnamon, even when first started in Linux. One system in the same ubuntu branch that I found almost as reliable as Mint, but with fairly new KDE, is TuxedoOS; more stable than Kubuntu, a bit less than Mint, and close in freshness as Fedora/OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Wine is still a thing, but most people prefer Proton for gaming.
The easiest way is to install Steam and play your games through that. Non-steam games can be added with “add a non-steam game”, and then you can choose to launch them with proton though the settings for the shortcut you created.
I can count on one hand the games that havent worked for me using this method, and it applies to any distro. I’ve never even considered doing a full VM for a game, i’m not even aware of a game that would work under a VM but not Proton.
Check out ProtonDB to see if your games work, and if any tweaks are required.
Wine is still kind of a thing, as in it’s what is underneath Proton, the base.
True, but almost nobody uses Wine by itself when Proton is so much more convenient
If you have more than one monitor, I’ve found bazzite only boots up using one of them.
A more general distro might meet your needs better if you have more than one monitor.
I use Bazzite with multiple monitors. Can you clarify what you mean when you say another distro might meet OP’s needs better if they have more than one monitor?
I figured it’s possible. I didn’t think there is an easy way, at least that I could tell, to switch the out of the box configuration to use more than one. At least from the gamescope UI it boots into.
I thought it might be a limitation of that compositor.
Oh, are you talking about the special big picture mode or whatever it’s called? B/c I use the full desktop experience.
Interesting.
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I suggest Mint, don’t know if you’ve tried it but it seems like the best choice.
Bazzite is a gaming focussed distro and if you don’t really game you don’t need it. I tried using OpenSUSE and it’s really apparent that they’re focused more on system administrators than desktop users (and system administrators are the only ones they monetize).
In all seriousness, do you actually have any problems with Mint? Can’t really answer if we don’t know what you’re dissatisfied with in your current setup. I myself tried OpenSUSE because I wanted to give KDE a shot.
I’ve used mint for ages. Most flavors, and tried most DEs. I use Mint in my laptop currently.
It’s like jeans. You can wear them for ages, for most every situations, but at some point you may decide to give chinos a try. Also comfortable, versatile, but different.
