Not defending Dementia Donny and either way I’m not shelling out $80 for a game ever, just wondering if this is really a result of the tariffs. I understand the console price being high due to them but I don’t see how it would affect the price of games that are essentially going to be 100% digital

  • @MacAttak8@lemmy.world
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    Considering they are delaying pre orders due to the tariffs I do not think tariffs are the reason the price is so high. I think Nintendo is trying to set a new standard for game prices. If these games still sell at $80 then I wouldn’t be surprised to see GTA 6 release for $100. The whole gaming market will likely follow.

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      The whole AAAAAAAA gaming market… I still see the Indy devs not caving to this bullshit. I only support indy devs now. The AAAAAAAAA pricks are useless, overpriced failures imo

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      luckily, this is the one industry you can boycott them AND still get the product anyway 🏴‍☠️

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          only when the companies i’m paying money to are not as horrible as nintendo.

          theres plenty of games out there you can buy day 1 without being extorted these days.

  • @lydon_feen@lemm.ee
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    80? More like 90 if it’s the physical version.

    No this isn’t because of tariffs. If anything tariffs will make it even worse (which will be painful.for americana to watch). This is just good ol’ Nintendo greed.

    There’s zero justification for a Mario Kart game costing 80/90 dollars/euros. It’s simply not a game with the kind of investment behind it to justify such a price home. IMO only GTA6 has a somewhat reasonable argument to get away with that. Yes they will make a ton of money but they also spent quite a lot making it.

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      Aren’t the physical versions just a key you plug in that let’s you download the game? Seems to me like that’s just easing people into going full digital.

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    Unpopular opinion:

    They could probably charge $100 and people would still buy them, despite knowing the games aren’t worth that much. Consumers don’t really care; they just want their dopamine fixes. Nintendo could wrap a literal turd up and label it the next Zelda game, and people would bum rush stores with fistfuls of money to buy it; just because.

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      I don’t think it’s as much of an unpopular opinion as it is just a thing that happens. If the Sims community has taught me anything, diehard fans of a franchise will keep shelling out hundreds of dollars for new content even if it’s overpriced dogshit

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        And unfortunately until the community puts their collective foot down, these game developers (Nintendo, EA, etc) will continue churning out dog shit.

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      The opinion of someone who didn’t care for the new Zelda games (BoTW & the other one), is that they already wrapped a turd & called it the next Zelda game, twice.

  • @Professorozone@lemmy.world
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    This is the problem with tariffs, it’s an opportunity for greedy corporations to increase prices MORE than the tariffs or on products not covered by the tariffs and no one will be the wiser.

  • @Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world
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    Vote with your wallet, and don’t let the FOMO pull you in.

    Nintendo is just a small slice of the gaming industry. If you don’t like what you see there are other platforms and game developers.

    For 80 usd you can buy a handful of bigger titles during a Steam sale. Just saying.

  • @frank@sopuli.xyz
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    Okay, here’s a slightly hot take.

    I’d rather the price go up and the games remain ad free and high quality (not you, pokemon, you can get fucked) than become enshittified with micro transactions, ads, etc

    I don’t like it. But it’s much more acceptable to me

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      But you don’t need either. Plenty of great games are cheaper and have none of that bullshit. Rimworld, Factorio?

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      Sorry bro, you get all of the above. Price go up, micro-transactions increase, more ads, and games get worse. We’re already seeing it happen, most games are overpriced and not even finished when they come out these days, and yeah, we are seeing ads in games now, especially sports games, and it seems Every game has to have a battlepass or some shit these days.

      You want good games without ads or micro BS? Buy indie, play old games, and wait for the AAA industry to collapse in on itself.

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        I do basically only play indie games sans like, 2-3 Nintendo games per console generation. but yeah, sure feels like you get it all in the worst way

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    Well I’ve had essentially every console Nintendo has ever produced, but at least for now I’m not excited about the switch 2 for this very reason, I’m fairly put off about it.

    I’m either going to buy a steamdeck or wait for the cost to go down (Nintendo is usually firm with their pricing though) on the Switch 2 before I’ll ever buy it or any games.

    Especially while the US languishes under trump for the next nearly four years. I’m not going to have a lot of extra space for added expenses and price gouging.

  • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    The prices are still calculated pre-tariffs, thats why they stopped preorders because the price will go up most likely.

    I think asking for high prices for both the console and the games is a big mistake.

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      They don’t take in the same amounts of profits as other greedy companies. Only $1.5 billion last year. Still a lot, don’t get me wrong.

      I don’t care for them because of the way they gatekeep games they don’t even produce anymore, like old NES/SNES games. their anti emulation stance is pure garbage, either sell the game or fuck off when people emulate it, you don’t get it both ways.

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      This!

      I haven’t bought a Nintendo product since the Wii. Emulate it for better frames anyway. It’s easy, and you can slap it on a steam deck or another portable.

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    I have a story. About 30 years ago Sonic & Knuckles was launched for Mega Drive. “I” bought that for 17.000$00 (Portuguese escudos). That roughly translates to 85€ without accounting for inflation.

    So although the price hike is unfortunate, I’m actually surprised the prices of the games remained stable for so long.

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      Similar, I think I paid £65 for Street Fighter II: Champion Edition on MegaDrive. That’s US$84 - and that was in 1992.

      I must have been mad. Although, I probably played that game more than any other, at least until some of the huge open world games of recent decades.

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        SNES cartridges ranged from 80-150DM (German pre-euro currency) here. That’s between 40 and 75EUR.

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      I grew up mostly playing games that were not the latest release. Like I got Dawn of War for less than £10 around 2008 or so. It released in 2004. Think that was the last game I got the CD for, don’t have it anymore.

      Then sometime in the 2010s when it was on sale I got all the expansions to it and got it on steam instead.

  • @Nibodhika@lemmy.world
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    IIRC the price was announced first, and it’s the same in other countries so I don’t think that’s the reason. Which means that lets asume they will use Japan’s tariffs of 24% on them their base price goes from 80 to 99.2, plus in the USA prices are usually pre-tax so you also add tax on top of that, this varies from state to state, but a quick Google puts it at around 5%, so you will actually be paying $104.16 for them, and $117.18 for physical copies, or $126.63 if they’re manufactured in China and you get that tariff instead. This is just one example of what these isolationist policies will cause, be prepared to have that happen to everything.

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    Let’s put it this way, the market price for the Switch 2 is roughly the same converted price in the UK. Now, to my knowledge, the UK hasn’t also introduced these tariffs quietly so I can’t, in good conscience, blame ol’ Delusional Donald for this one.

  • @Tudsamfa@lemmy.world
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    The increased price is not the result of tariffs, neither for the games nor console. That’s pretty much confirmed by them costing the same amount (converted + sales tax) in Europe. The console is (was, before tariffs) fairly priced imo, it is comparable to the steam deck + dock.

    Is 80$ Mario Kart price gouging? Eh. The edit maniac in the comments here is right that video games have become cheap, maybe even too cheap, and that a price increase at some point was inevitable. 60$ was set as the AAA price before the smartphone existed, and was not always profitable as we’ve seen with the recent lay-offs.

    My own 2 cents: I’m glad some company broke that unspoken rule (we ignore skull and bones for obvious reasons), so big releases have more options in pricing, too long have we accepted 60$ games with 20$ DLC, I’m glad if this means devs can just charge 80$ for a full game. Oh, and it’s good for indie games too. People may actually buy the shorter games with worse graphics they wanted so badly a few months ago.

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      too long have we accepted 60$ games with 20$ DLC, I’m glad if this means devs can just charge 80$ for a full game.

      Breath of the Wild was a $60 game with $20 DLC when it launched in 2017. Eight years later, its Switch 2 Edition is now a $70 game that (seemingly but not yet 100% confirmed) still has the same $20 DLC sold separately. This is a game that already sold enough copies to earn back over 16 times its development cost.

      As for Mario Kart World, I’ll be surprised if Nintendo doesn’t announce DLC plans in its upcoming presentation two weeks from now, but that remains to be seen.

  • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    It’s always corporate greed.

    They can afford to sell games for $60 and still turn a profit.

    But there’s an excuse to charge $70 because inflation.

    And there’s and excuse to charge $90 because tariffs.