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I haven’t watched The Ten Commandments in a long while so please help me remember. Wasn’t worshipping a false idol considered a BAD thing?
I think there is literally a story in the bible where someone puts a golden goat in his garden or wherever and then gets punished by god
Edit: It was a golden calf
His name was Mooby
You didn’t say “bless you” when I sneezed!
Any true Christian would know this story. You’re either not Christian, or Evangelical Christian.
Born and raised in fundamentalist evangelical Christianity. The vast majority of evangelicals will know the story of Moses and the golden calf.
A significant minority of evangelicals actually regularly study the Bible. (I used to be one of them.) They tend to be the core of the membership and teach classes and have leadership positions. See Mike Johnson for an example.
The level of internal propaganda is wild. To be able to maintain that faith while regularly studying the Bible takes a lot of willing suspension of disbelief. Basically, they live in a bubble where they self-censor incoming information.
Something like the ex-mormon CES Letter is needed for the evangelicals. Homeschooling also needs to have required curriculum to give children logical tools.
Conservative cultural christians are a different problem and probably what you’re actually thinking of. They’re useful idiots for the far right as well as the evangelicals. They really don’t know much about the Bible or denominations around them and tend to believe what they were told last by far right media or their smart uncle who’s into conspiracy theories and shit. Political and religious outrage as entertainment.
What a wonderful and illuminating reply to my snarky sarcasm! Thank you! That’s all very interesting.
7 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt. 8 They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’
9 “I have seen these people,” the Lord said to Moses, “and they are a stiff-necked people. 10 Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation.” …
25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies. 26 So he stood at the entrance to the camp and said, “Whoever is for the Lord, come to me.” And all the Levites rallied to him.
When does the punishment part happen
The whole point of the antichrist is they rise to power by exploiting Christians and their faith…
Like, everything about the two line up that I’m starting to think trump is literally using the myth as a blueprint. Like, at some point someone told him about it, and his first and only thought was:
I bet they’re dumb enough to really fall for that
I think it’s kind of the opposite. The Bible was written as a response to and warning of human greed. The fashion in which people come to power has changed since then, but human greed doesn’t change.
The irony is not lost that the Bible itself was turned into a tool for greed and oppression, but I think that the actual core of the religion (Christ’s teachings or whatever) were meant to warn people about the dangers of doing greedy human things.
Dude has a literal golden goat… That’s would be a pretty big coincidence.
Don’t forget his first Christian supporters was the Evangelicalists. People who got so tired of waiting for the apocalypse they decided to help it along to get to the rapture.
That’s what’s up with the Israel support as well, it’s supposed to start there, and it’s supposed to be a “Jewish Kingdom”.
That and the antichrist coming to power are the two big things, it’s not implausible they think trump is the actual antichrist, understand how terrible he is, but want to give him ultimate power to hasten judgement day
It’s not rational, but there’s logic to it.
Wasn’t worshipping a false idol considered a BAD thing?
Just don’t consider it a false idol. That’s the trick.
Stick your money-plated golden calf in a big box and have four old dudes carry it around on a palanquin. Then get a dozen DOGE agents to lead it in front of a government agency, blow their shofars, and pull funding until it collapses.
Boom. Straight out of the Book of Joshua, Chapter 6. Not much more holy than the Siege of Jericho.
Yes, but only if one was actually a believer of said religion.
“Christian” Nationalists are just Nazis With An Excuse.
There’s a whole analog horror series that spawned because of that
Which? I love analog horror.
I know of one :The Left Behind series. Had books for teens and ones for adults.
Oh yeah. I think I read one long ago when I was young and indoctrinated. Maybe even seen a movie? Yes, but not the Nic Cage one, the 2000 one.
That’s something I haven’t thought about in a long time. Thanks for bringing it up (not sarcasm). I’ll have to look into it from a different perspective.
True.
But was idolation for a false idol not one off the signes off the anti-christ. And he was also having his own valuta… an other sing.
Stupid Libtard of COURSE NOT! Otherwise we would HATE Trump!
How much more anti-christy can this guy get?
No one knows but I am sure we will be here for a while to see him try his hardest.
Now I don’t believe a word of the Bible, but this guy checks off so many anti-Christ boxes it’s getting harder and harder to see how the people who do believe that stuff don’t see it.
My wife sent me a great article on this that was originally written in 2019 but is now even more relevant. I thought it was a fun read at first but as I kept going it started to actually unsettle me a bit https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
Isn’t that part of the story tho? That he tricks believers?
False believers, whose faith is shallow and performative, or against the teachings of Christ (like, for example, the prosperity gospel). Real big “sucks to suck” energy in Revelations.
Not that they were tricked specifically that they weren’t tricked, that they simply chose to follow and bore his mark.
‘Trick’ requires some form of effective deception. That’s not what’s happening, the are just evil ass people who are voting for evil ass shit. They know what he claims and take him seriously enough to kill people about it.
the most hardcore believers are the ones who love trump the most.
But given that basically none of these people have read a bible in their life, it’s understandable that they don’t see the signs of their own religion.
Or maybe they are super into the anti-christ. who knows
Bibles are for hitting your enemies over the head with, not reading.
Trump is literally the Anti-Christ, he takes Christians away from Christ and thinks it’s funny.
I actually read a report somewhere that said Christians were having to choice between their Churches and Trump… and they choose Trump
Fake Christians in Christianity? More likely than you think!
Did the Bible predict the apocalypse would start with trumpets or Trump/Pence?
That’s a compilation story book, take everything you read there as fantasy. My favorite story is Genesis, the part were the dad offers his virgin daughters to have sex with a furious gang of people.
said Christians were having to choice between their Churches and Trump
it’s an easy way for believers to see and avoid the unholy temples now worshipping the ungodly
Something about worshipping false idols?
New Christian’s love this stuff
Feels very old testament to me… Kinky
Ya know, maybe the Bible is right and god is real, because there’s no way someone comes this close to exactly what it describes as the Anti-Christ without actually being evil.
This is just his way of separating the goats from thr sheep
So, literally worthless statue made from scrap paper.
Hey now. That could be a really nice archery target.
I can think of a few better ones.
I wonder if Luigi is an archer.
Another way of looking at it is that it is a worthless statue made from evidence of counterfeiting and forgery.
Why a goat? It’s an odd choice considering the association with Satan.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mar-a-lago-goat-trump/
The dude that donated/sold it just really likes goats lmao
It’s an old testament sacrifice thing.
Leviticus 17:7
They must no longer offer any of their sacrifices to the goat idols[a] to whom they prostitute themselves.
Edit: it appears in a few other places.
he hasn’t read the bible and probably doesn’t talk to anyone who has. more likely a reference to “the goat” meaning “the greatest of all time”.
Well yeah, but the goat idols were used in some kind of previous religion and are being forbidden in Leviticus, as can be seen from the quote. So it’s not exactly an old testament thing, it’s just mentioned in the old testament as something you shouldn’t use.
Does it make all the sheep say “BAA-L”?
Baal was a storm god who brought rain and life to the land. Yahweh is the war god that brought genocide.
When Moses approached the camp and saw the calf and the dancing, his anger burned and he threw the tablets out of his hands, breaking them to pieces at the foot of the mountain. And he took the calf the people had made and burned it in the fire; then he ground it to powder, scattered it on the water and made the Israelites drink it.
He said to Aaron, “What did these people do to you, that you led them into such great sin?”
Aaron then took a drag from his vape and shrugged. He didn’t know either
Then the Sianai Times reported how the Pharaoh isn’t actually a that bad of a guy and it would serve the Israelites to reopen communication with Egypt and discuss trade partnership, and how slavery should be an individual’s choice and that they should vote Moses out for unilateral decision-making. Also, no haha the river never turned to blood and there are no locusts, don’t look up at them.
Welcome to Costco, I love you.
This guy gets it.
Had to check which community I was in to make sure I wasn’t in the Onion one.
Only three years eleven months to go!
Found the optimist!
I can do better (optimism-wise).
Maybe this will be remembered after the fact and once the Trump delusion dies, people will see that the tribulation and rapture never happened despite him literally bringing us to the end of the world, they all lose their religion and everything swings HARD to the left afterwards. No more Republicans, no more conservatives, no more capitalism, no more oppressive medicinal politics.
I mean this is pure hopium.
I wouldn’t deprive y’all of depression like that. We all know this will be a dead rock in space soon.
TWO!
Two optimists in one Trump thread!
You people give me hope. Not much, but I’ll take anything at this point.
Or we all go insane and you motherfuckers follow me into the madness of the Allfather. Either way I suspect that there will be an increase in stabbing instances, I win either way.
I’m not a Christian but man this Trump guy keeps matching what revelations said the anti christ would be so well that I might look into the religion if it wasn’t oppressing me and I wasn’t already happy with my gods
I don’t believe in God, but rapture appears like a good start. Bunch of religious freak leaving for heaven would mean the median IQ raised a little bit.
Cool and normal.
Someone could gift a literal trojan horse to Trump and he’d fall for it as long as it had his face on it or maybe some gold.
Why do you think he’s sending all the classified files to his bestest buddies in NK, RU, SA? They just love him, bigly.
