cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24657192

Summary

In a virtual speech at the World Economic Forum, Trump suggested Canada could become a U.S. state to avoid his proposed tariffs on imports.

The remark elicited gasps from the audience.

Trump claimed the U.S. does not need Canadian lumber, energy, or vehicles, vastly overstating the trade deficit between the two nations.

He reiterated his intention to impose tariffs, potentially as high as 25%, on imports from Canada and Mexico starting February 1.

Economists warn such tariffs would raise prices for U.S. consumers.

      • Ænima
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        194 months ago

        That’s a really good idea! I’m about 5-8 hours from the Canadian boarder but I will not fight for a fascist country. I’ll either join the other side or join a resistance here.

        • @P00ptart@lemmy.world
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          124 months ago

          I’m about 4 hrs from the border but could easily make that shorter in an emergency! Combat veteran as well.

          • Ænima
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            74 months ago

            I’m a vet also. Never felt the need for a gun as a civilian, but November changed that for me.

  • @ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml
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    614 months ago

    Trump seems to have the goal of destroying the US from all I can tell. Our economy and power are so dependent on our connections to the rest of the world and he is burning them all down. The US dollar gets replaced as the fiat currency we are wholly fucked and this dumb shit is how that happens.

    • @Hafler@lemm.ee
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      354 months ago

      Somehow, even with conservatives owning all the branches of government, it will be the Dem’s fault.

      • @coyootje@lemmy.world
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        24 months ago

        And they’ll even say sorry for it because they consider it “impolite” and “not done” to talk back to the sitting government or some shit.

    • @octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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      84 months ago

      And the last gasp of our conservatives as the final pillar of the whitehouse collapses into a flaming wreck due to Trumps ridiculous toddler-like mismanagement of everything will be to blame it all on the Democrats.

      • @ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml
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        144 months ago

        If America is forced to accept austerity measures over our massive debt when the dollar is no longer fiat, regular people will be the ones who suffer sadly.

    • Ænima
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      -14 months ago

      That’s the point, I think, as well. I could see Putin using the useful idiot to destroy the primary rival to its superiority. The US is incredibly difficult to invade. The intelligence apparatus is too ingrained in all our communication to avoid detection. If you can’t get the rot to start from the outside, go for the inside.

      • davel [he/him]
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        -14 months ago

        This is peak BlueAnon/Marvel Cinematic Delusion, where Putin is a supervillain with a global mind control network.

  • davel [he/him]
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    434 months ago

    Trump is going to speedrun all our vassals allies into joining BRICS, and I’m here for it.

  • sircac
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    234 months ago

    Why people keep listening to what that being says? Just respond to his actions, anthing else is useless…

    • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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      144 months ago

      I somewhat agree with your point but after years of him saying he would do fucked up shit and then him doing a lot of it, it helps to be prepared for his intentions as they manifest into actions in many cases.

      • sircac
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        My point goes mostly to international leaders or representative people that over-react to his words and then the media look to amplify it by doing it a “new”: part of his strategy is this shit bombing upon saturation, so it buffers a space of allowance of shit actions in the public opinion that otherwise would have suffered of even more rejection if done without this probing, confusing and dragging resources in the meantime to attend this… which in the end will not matter how are they answered, prevented or reacted, he will push anyway in that direction, so I would give zero weight to all that diarrhea, shit will come willing it or not since he has the power to do it, accepting any kind of conversation with someone like that is playing a rigged game and lose terrain… why accept his ability to an exchange of opinion in the first place? why respond/listen to him? He behaves like the strongest bully, the corresponding treatment is required… join on isolating him, he will not make it easy though. This is my opinion…

  • @humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    234 months ago

    There is no actual fentanyl or immigration basis for tariffs on Canada. Just submit to less representation than California, and help absorb large US debt with little in return for it.

      • 小莱卡
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        134 months ago

        Really there is no basis for any tariffs, the richest nation in the world putting tariffs on other nations products because they can’t keep up is embarrassing.

    • @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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      134 months ago

      Don’t act like Canada hasn’t been seeing it’s own share of right wing extremists making their way into government.

      • @Alsephina@lemmy.ml
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        94 months ago

        Yeah no need for a coup really. Without a revolution Canada is gonna be part of this new axis on its own.

    • @octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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      114 months ago

      rip you guys are gonna get couped

      Seems to me we got couped. It was just mostly domestically bloodless. So far.

    • @Lumiluz@slrpnk.net
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      104 months ago

      Canada is one of the few countries that has actually defeated the USA. They even burned the white house.

    • @coyootje@lemmy.world
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      44 months ago

      Do you really think it’s likely this will happen? I think hell just start throwing a tantrum and maybe symbolically apply some tariffs.

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        Yes it is likely. Canada can’t afford to resist. Canada is highly dependent on trade with the US.

        Just because I think it is likely doesn’t mean that I think it’s right. This is clearly wrong.

  • @BastingChemina@slrpnk.net
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    184 months ago

    Canada is avoiding Trump’s tariffs by not becoming a state.

    They are not paying the tariffs, american people do. So by joining the US they would start paying all the tariffs that Trump is putting on China’s products, European products …

    • @ikidd@lemmy.world
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      -94 months ago

      Why do people think that happens? It does not happen. 90% of the tariffs will be absorbed by Canadian companies trying to keep up sales to the US because there’s nowhere else to go, and even if they sell elsewhere, it’ll be discounted that much to other countries because of the general laws of supply and demand.

      The only way, and it’s one that we have nothing in place to effect, is to mark prices as of the tariff date and to enact an export tariff for the amount of the sale under the price set point. That would highly discourage discounting sales and pretty much just cut them off since, in the case of products made or produced in the US, it would be competing with local products at 125% of the local price.

  • @llothar@lemmy.ml
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    154 months ago

    American anschluss of Canada to expand their lebensraum, because they feel they deserve it.

    Musk does not hide how he feels about it, we wouldn’t either.

  • @tourist@lemmy.world
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    134 months ago

    Do you think he wanted to do this last time but ousted everyone who told him that’s fucking psychotically stupid?

  • loathsome dongeater
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    74 months ago

    What about the provinces within Canada? Are they gonna all merge to become one US megastate?