This channel is going to be so busy the next 4 years. Oof.
Isn’t the entire idea that the Gulf of Mexico is more descriptive than the gulf of America? Mexico only has one large gulf, and from a US perspective the gulf is in the direction of Mexico. The Americas have several «gulfs» so gulf of America makes no sense. Maybe Gulf of the USA? But again in terms of a description that makes far less sense.
Fucking THEATER
Hey, tbh, I’m fine with him focusing on things like this and trying to buy Greenland. It’s much rather he spend his time on theater than on actually hurting people
He’s trying to get things like this and Greenland in the headlines so that he can do the actually harmful things without too much notice.
No, he has no idea what the real agenda is. He actually thinks this bullshit matters. That’s exactly why he was installed in the position of president.
The guy is like, literally borderline retarded. Quit giving that asshole credit.
He doesn’t need to know, he just has to be useful to those who do know.
And when we post and upvote this shit instead of the harmful shit then we are playing into their hand.
This is a distraction
This is what Trump does day to day, spouting random made up shit on a whim. My guess is that it was ad libbed and there is no legislation, the whole renaming thing is probably news to his speech writer/diaper changer/whatever they call the person that tries to get him to talk about something specific.
The horrible shit is orchestrated by all the malicious fucks around him who can focus on one topic for more than 5 minutes.
Love how these commenters are all offended by a thing that will never get off the ground, or be heard again.
Y’all were around for the first time, right?
Damn. Boomer politicians scraping the bottom of the barrel so hard now we’re stealing from China’s playbook? “It’s not Cuba, it’s American Taipei.”
They built a wall too.
But Mexico has 63 more miles of coastline on the Gulf than the USA does. We should just leave it alone.
Wouldn’t surprise me if this was inspired to circumvent the new ban on oil drilling Biden just enacted. “We’re drilling in the Gulf of America, not the Gulf of Mexico.”
The US doesn’t have exclusive rights to “America” as a name. In fact strictly speaking “Gulf of America” is not a bad name since it is the largest gulf in the Americas AFAIK.
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The reason is racism
Then maybe “Gulf of the Americas” would be more appropriate.
True, they’ll probably call it Gulf of 'MURICA!
Except America has more then one gulf so it isn’t the gulf of America it is one gulf in America.
The US doesn’t have exclusive rights to “America” as a name.
Agreed. Let’s also change our demonym to Unitedstatian.
That’s also unclear, given the United States of Mexico.
Edit: I guess we could do Columbian, but I gotta assume Colombia would be annoyed and it’s not exactly descriptive of our foreign policy.
You joke but in many languages they do that, for instance “statunitensi” or “estadounidenses”
I don’t joke actually. I chose “Unitedstatians” exactly because that’s what other languages do.
Canada has more land mass than the US does. Perhaps Trump should be talking about integrating the US into Canada (and doing away with the now-redundant US Presidential position).
I’m sure Canada would love that influx of crazy
Cascadia awaits…
Cascadia, the one envisioned as a racist white ethnostate?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
No, the geographic region you fucking mouth breather.
I was born and raised in Cascadia and I have never once heard of it being some white racist ethnostate it’s more of a bioregion/cool people thing…I googled it and it looks like some folk in the 1840s wanted to do that but comparing us with them is ridiculous on your part to tell ya the truth.
I have never once heard of it being some white racist ethnostate
I was raised all over the country - but got an education in history. I’ve known the chud’s plan for Cascadia since I was a kid. Why don’t you read history? Don’t you think you should know what you’re endorsing before you start suggesting people support a plan for a white racist ethnostate?
Now that you know it’s history are you in any way reconsidering?
It’s not just a historical motivation, the scumfucks are still pushing for it.
https://thebaffler.com/latest/cascadia-lokting
https://www.kuow.org/stories/i-went-undercover-seattle-s-white-nationalist-group/
wake up
@Entropywins I feel ya, and I agree with you, but here’s a friendly tip: Any argument made in text will be more persuasive if you write it like a thoughtful, educated grown-up instead of like a drunk high school drop-out.
It’s one thing to be ‘casual’ in discourse. It’s another to come across as incompetent, inconsiderate, or lazy.
Online, all anyone sees are the words you type. That’s a huge part of how others will perceive you – and everything you say – and you should mindful about that.
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@Entropywins Yep, that’s what I expect from childish people.
You need to grow up.
But Mexico has 63 more miles of coastline on the Gulf than the USA does.
He’ll solve that too.
We’ll croatia them and canada.
Let’s not forget, conservatives, CEOs and all that bunch operate with methods of a parlor magician. The louder they jingle the keys in one hand, the more we should be paying attention to what they are doing with the other.
Exactly this. All this outlandish bullshit is meant to soften the blow of something truly awful cooking.
It’s about to pop out of the oven!
Actual, literal toddlers are really taking over the US, aren’t they?
Voted in by folks of similar mental capability.
Plus folks of similar mental capability refrained from voting in the first place, when they could have prevented this.
Actual toddlers are less hateful then them. Still stands. Hateful toddlers.
I don’t know, but toddlers tend to make more sense…
Can we pleast waste the next 4 years renaming things and get nothing practical done? That sounds like perfectly good mud to spin the tires in.
This is just the distraction while he takes everything that isn’t nailed down.
I guess this time he brought a box full of screwdrivers.
Invade Mexico, invade greenland, rename the gulf… hello… he’s bonkers, what the fuck are we doing letting this shit back in power…
They’ll 25th amendment him throw Vance in and we’ll be a fascist oligarchy before March Madness.
Not that we’re miles away now.
Yeah, that’s what I’ve been thinking since his speech. I’m thinking the people he’s surrounded with are encouraging his non-sensical ramblings so they can replace him with Vance, who is a Thiel/billionaire puppet, and likely more predictable and reliable than Trump.
You are radicalizing your former allies and neighbors, that is what you are doing.
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You said we, this is a normal response that isn’t super accusatory or aggressive. It just sounds it because you’re interpreting it as directed towards you the individual, but it’s for “you all,” which is the standard way to respond to a comment in the first person plural
Thanks, that was the spirit in which the reply was intended. He asked, I answered. Grammar is a motherfucker.
I’m not advocating for radicalization. I’m saying they are predictable consequences.
In my original comment, I specify. He’s bonkers is referring to Trump, the actor of those referred to actions.
In your reply, you state ‘YOU’, as if the people against this / and? the people pushing it are responsible for that radicalization, and I take no responsibility for that shitstain’s actions against our allies.
You could have easily been more clear by stating ‘conservatives’ or Trump supporters or - if you meant a blanket indictment - you idiots who didn’t punish the insurrection / pay taxes to a corrupt system of governing etc., hence my dismissal of your reply.
Vague aspersions cast without insight generally get that response.
Thanks for taking the time to re-reply, even after your initial zinger got modded away just to demonstrate to the people that even when the average American says WE, they just mean… ME.
Not much I can do to make my point more clearly than that.
chefs kiss
life’s full of fun ironies, if we can find ways to appreciate them. a hard lift sometimes.
best of luck!
I wasn’t the person who originally answered you, just someone who saw you lash out at someone and understood why. You said this (emphasis mine):
Invade Mexico, invade greenland, rename the gulf… hello… he’s bonkers, what the fuck are we doing letting this shit back in power…
And someone answered your question in the way that makes sense (second person plural). It’s not an aspersion, it’s literally just stating the consequences of us electing trump (we as a country did, regardless of whether you or I voted for him).
quod erat demonstrandum
ipso facto vis-a-vis
shut the fuck up
Hey look, another 4 years of Republicans not doing anything of value for the American people.
Meanwhile, Democrats just banned medical debt from showing up on credit reports.
The differences between parties couldn’t be more obvious and Americans were still stupid enough to elect the do-nothing party. That’s how I know this country is barreling down a path to collapse. It’s not Trump. It’s not even Republicans. It’s braindead stupid Americans.
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Yeah. I mean I try not to be the guy standing on the corner with the “THE END IS NEAR” sign, but the writing is on the wall here. History has shown us that if a populace doesn’t work hard to maintain a democracy, it loses it to the forces working against it. And our society simply can’t responsibly handle the threat of internet propaganda and radicalism. There will never be a more stark election than what we just experienced and we still failed the test. If we’re failing the easiest, most obvious tests we could possibly be given, we don’t stand a chance.
It’s not going to be some cataclysmic collapse and downfall. It’s going to be slow and steady and extremely despressing.
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A few people I know whom I used to think were fairly smart have even fallen prey to some clearly wrong misinformation
This is probably the most depressing aspect of it all to me. Finding out that people who I thought were intelligent and good are actually anti-intellectual and amoral.
You know when you have a society rebelling against vaccines, one of the greatest things to ever happen to humanity, that you’re witnessing a downward spiral.
Damn, my medical debt that is currently affecting my score must have not gotten the memo.
Edit: Holy fucking shit you’re right, PLEASE GOD LET THIS FUCKING LEGISLATION STICK! DO ONE THING!
Another edit: Can the Trump administration kill this on day one?
Yeah. It’s a big deal.
“BUT DEMOCRATS DON’T DO ANYTHING!!!”
Honestly, I’m not sure how possible it is for Trump to undo this. I haven’t looked deep enough into it. I read something about Biden doing what he could to make it hard for it to be undone. There’s so many nuances to our legislative system and the powers that the president has that it’s hard to tell how safe this from Republican fuckery.
From what I’ve read, Trump actually can kill this on day one. Whether or not he does is a different story, he’s taken a populist slide lately and I don’t think his supporters would be too happy with him undoing it.
Who knows though; unprecedented times.
Also, there has already been a lawsuit filed against the Biden administration for this rule. Fucking god damn it
Why not replace First past the post voting so more political parties can participate in the electoral process with no spoiler effect?
Don’t democrats support democracy? Are democrats afraid of having to compete for our votes?
Do you mean democrats or Democrats? Because the latter is absolutely not looking to compete any further.
This is the best case scenario, relying on their utter incompetence, although the will pillage state funds
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The reason Trump is doing this is so that we are not focusing on the rift in the party over H1B visas.
Where the fuck are the Democrats hitting the issue while it’s hot with 3 interviews a day agreeing with the average Republican over Trump and Musk?
Ignoring everyone. Then when it’s election season again, they’ll act like you’re a Russian troll who just started talking to spread division.
where the fuck are the democrats?
Pointing fingers at each other and drifting further to the right, probably.
Guarantee the house and senate are going to be full of this kind of shit to the exclusion of anything even remotely useful
Can only hope this is the case. If they’re not being useful, chances are they’re not being genuinely destructive either
And it’s an omnibus law that also bans abortion, with meaningless exceptions for rape, but only if the perpetrator is sentenced before the first trimester; or life threatening conditions, but only if the mother is actively dying. And if you vote no on that, you’ll be smeared forever as the traitor of America.
Mexican here. This is happening as much as “the wall” happened. Don’t let him distract you from the H1B issue.
The unfortunate thing is that “the wall” kinda did happen. Really shittily, but even Biden continued building it and Kamala ran on continuing to build it. The idea itself is really stupid sure, it’s ineffective and ass. But there do be a wall getting built to this day.
It’s not about doing the things it’s about the optics of saying you’ll do them. The wall isn’t done and never will be. Even if it was it would never deliver what was promised.
Its all about optics and it’s why Trump sabotaged the immigration reform bill. It would show democrats are capable of actually executing/delivering in a way he can’t.
And on that front, trump was super successful. He was so successful that the Democrats full ass abandoned hispanic folk and immigrants in general and fully adopted Fascist Trump Immigration policy. In terms of optics, Trump won so hard the Dems tried to be like WE ARE JUST LIKE TRUMP BUT EFFECTIVE.
The dems would rather chase racist white “”“”“moderates”“”“” than any person of color. Even their POC’s cant help but beg for that racist white moderate because they crossed that wealth line that made them forget what they are to those folk. Trump won the optic war because Dems surrendered as soon as they physically could.
Did Mexico pay for it, though? That was the important part.
Was it the important part? Really? Sounds like your so stuck on the silly part you missed the clusterfuck
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This is why fascism works. This will happen. Trump is incompetent and idiotic but he’s got a government worth of yes men and people scared of losing their jobs or otherwise motivated to just pass his insane “presidential” bullshit through the pipelines created by liberals in more peaceful times.
He doesn’t need to know how to do anything, but now that he’s in power a handful of his batshit insane things he proposed still get pushed through the system by people who know how to do it who’ve been drolly passing similar but more sane legislation across their desk for decades.
To everyone here.
I know most of you are fed up, exhausted and disgusted. The key is to never give up and roll over. Once you do this the idiots will have won and we we’ll be permanently screwed. We had already gone through four years of Trump’s Idiocracy. Four more years sucks but you need to keep fighting the good fight. We can get through this!
Oh I’m never gonna stop fighting. They can send my gay ass to the camps and I’ll still fight. IDGAF
We’ve always been permanently screwed, it’s just new people getting added to the screwed side of the equation.
Better late late late laaaate then never I guess.
What an utter fucking buffoon. This man shouldn’t be trusted to use a fork without protective eyewear let alone run a god damn country.
Wait until he hears about Mexico not being named America either!
Anyone think he’ll want to take over the rest of Mexico and make it part of America?
Between that and telling Canada they should become a state, I wouldn’t be surprised if we get some manifest destiny v2 trying to conquer the continent.
At this point he may attempt to annex Australia because he thinks Hitler did
He’s already trying to rename Canada. The US is Canada’s pants, and we’ve apparently shit. them
“Mexico is in Central America, so it must belong to the USA!”