- I upgraded pipewire from stable to backports (I want to know
if this is related to my problemwhy essential packages were removed)
Start-Date: 2024-09-18 14:59:02
Commandline: apt install libpipewire-0.3-0/bookworm-backports
Requested-By: dullbananas (1000)
Install: libpulsedsp:amd64 (16.1+dfsg1-2+b1, automatic), pulseaudio:amd64 (16.1+dfsg1-2+b1, automatic), pulseaudio-utils:amd64 (16.1+dfsg1-2+b1, automatic), libasound2-plugins:amd64 (1.2.7.1-1, automatic), policykit-1-gnome:amd64 (0.105-8, automatic), pulseaudio-module-bluetooth:amd64 (16.1+dfsg1-2+b1, automatic), libspeexdsp1:amd64 (1.2.1-1, automatic)
Upgrade: libspa-0.2-modules:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1, 1.2.3-1~bpo12+1), libpipewire-0.3-0:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1, 1.2.3-1~bpo12+1)
Remove: pipewire-pulse:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1), pipewire-audio-client-libraries:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1), t2-apple-audio-dsp-speakers161:amd64 (0.2.0-1), gnome:amd64 (1:43+1), gnome-remote-desktop:amd64 (43.3-1), pipewire:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1), gnome-shell-extensions:amd64 (43.1-1), gnome-shell:amd64 (43.9-0+deb12u2), pipewire-tests:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1), gdm3:amd64 (43.0-3), libspa-0.2-jack:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1), libspa-0.2-bluetooth:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1), pipewire-jack:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1), gstreamer1.0-pipewire:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1), t2-apple-audio-dsp-mic:amd64 (0.4.0-1), pipewire-audio:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1), pipewire-bin:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1), chrome-gnome-shell:amd64 (42.1-3), task-gnome-desktop:amd64 (3.73), gnome-session:amd64 (43.0-1+deb12u1), gnome-browser-connector:amd64 (42.1-3), gnome-core:amd64 (1:43+1), libpipewire-0.3-modules:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1), wireplumber:amd64 (0.4.13-1), gnome-shell-extension-prefs:amd64 (43.9-0+deb12u2), pipewire-alsa:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1)
End-Date: 2024-09-18 14:59:35
Start-Date: 2024-09-18 14:59:43
Commandline: apt install libpipewire-0.3-modules/bookworm-backports
Requested-By: dullbananas (1000)
Install: libconfig++9v5:amd64 (1.5-0.4, automatic), libxml++2.6-2v5:amd64 (2.40.1-3, automatic), libpipewire-0.3-modules:amd64 (1.2.3-1~bpo12+1), libffado2:amd64 (2.4.7-1, automatic)
End-Date: 2024-09-18 14:59:48
Start-Date: 2024-09-18 14:59:57
Commandline: apt install pipewire/bookworm-backports
Requested-By: dullbananas (1000)
Install: pipewire:amd64 (1.2.3-1~bpo12+1), pipewire-bin:amd64 (1.2.3-1~bpo12+1, automatic), wireplumber:amd64 (0.4.13-1, automatic)
End-Date: 2024-09-18 15:00:02
- I suspended the computer, and after resume, the lock screen was broken:
- When I clicked on the password field, the text cursor only appeared for a split second, and I could not type in it
- Clicking on the user switch button on the bottom right corner did nothing
- A few times, the text “Authentication error” randomly appeared for a split second, probably for 1 frame
- No way to reboot the normal way, because I could only use the power menu on the lock screen, which only has suspend
- I used the power button to reboot, and instead of GNOME, there was darkness
Debian GNU/Linux 12 dullbananas-macbookpro161 tty1
dullbananas-macbookpro161 login:
- I downgraded pipewire to stable
Start-Date: 2024-09-18 15:20:16
Commandline: apt install pipewire/stable
Requested-By: dullbananas (1000)
Downgrade: pipewire:amd64 (1.2.3-1~bpo12+1, 0.3.65-3+deb12u1), pipewire-bin:amd64 (1.2.3-1~bpo12+1, 0.3.65-3+deb12u1), libspa-0.2-modules:amd64 (1.2.3-1~bpo12+1, 0.3.65-3+deb12u1), libpipewire-0.3-modules:amd64 (1.2.3-1~bpo12+1, 0.3.65-3+deb12u1), libpipewire-0.3-0:amd64 (1.2.3-1~bpo12+1, 0.3.65-3+deb12u1)
End-Date: 2024-09-18 15:20:26
- I ran
dpkg --verifyand got this output
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.9-1-t2-bookworm/modules.alias
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.9-1-t2-bookworm/modules.alias.bin
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.9-1-t2-bookworm/modules.dep
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.9-1-t2-bookworm/modules.dep.bin
missing /usr/share/dbus-1/services/io.snapcraft.Prompt.service
??5?????? c /etc/systemd/logind.conf
??5?????? c /etc/tlp.conf
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.8-1-t2-bookworm/modules.alias
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.8-1-t2-bookworm/modules.alias.bin
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.8-1-t2-bookworm/modules.dep
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.8-1-t2-bookworm/modules.dep.bin
??5?????? c /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf
missing /etc/os-release.debootstrap
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.7-1-t2-bookworm/modules.alias
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.7-1-t2-bookworm/modules.alias.bin
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.7-1-t2-bookworm/modules.dep
??5?????? /lib/modules/6.10.7-1-t2-bookworm/modules.dep.bin
- I reinstalled systemd (not sure if this made a difference)
Start-Date: 2024-09-18 15:48:58
Commandline: apt install --reinstall systemd
Requested-By: dullbananas (1000)
Reinstall: systemd:amd64 (252.30-1~deb12u2)
End-Date: 2024-09-18 15:49:02
- I reinstalled gdm3, and immediately without me doing anything else, there was GNOME instead of darkness
Start-Date: 2024-09-18 15:51:49
Commandline: apt install --reinstall gdm3
Requested-By: dullbananas (1000)
Install: gnome-remote-desktop:amd64 (43.3-1, automatic), gnome-shell:amd64 (43.9-0+deb12u2, automatic), power-profiles-daemon:amd64 (0.12-1+b1, automatic), gdm3:amd64 (43.0-3), gstreamer1.0-pipewire:amd64 (0.3.65-3+deb12u1, automatic), chrome-gnome-shell:amd64 (42.1-3, automatic), gnome-session:amd64 (43.0-1+deb12u1, automatic), gnome-browser-connector:amd64 (42.1-3, automatic), gnome-shell-extension-prefs:amd64 (43.9-0+deb12u2, automatic)
Remove: tlp:amd64 (1.5.0-2), tlp-rdw:amd64 (1.5.0-2)
End-Date: 2024-09-18 15:52:05
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End of class
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I reinstalled tlp because installing gdm3 removed it
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After selecting an app search result, instead of a new window opening, an existing window was focused, and this led to me discovering that my built-in extensions were gone
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While writing this post, I got the idea of using the list of removed packages in the apt history log output from
apt install libpipewire-0.3-0/bookworm-backportsto see what packages to install again, so I did that, then I also had to uninstall firefox-esr again -
I rebooted, and my built-in extensions and other stuff were resurrected, so now I have full redemption
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Another Window Session Manager restored my windows in a way that pissed me off
(Failed attempts of recovery are not listed)
Edit: actually I made the mistake 1 minute before the start of class
And this is why you don’t update your system while in the middle of something you need it for
Where’s the fun in that? You’ve gotta raw dog life to get your blood pumping.
^Hey, ^why ^are ^my ^prod ^credentials ^revoked? ^Guys?
This is why I love ostree distributions so much for my laptop. Not only can I safely update in class, I once switched distributions twice in one day of classes with only like 30s of total downtime, I just waited for the professor to go off on a tangent I didn’t need to take notes about so I could reboot.
I do the same with nix, unless I’m fucking with the bootloader I’ll do risky updates because I can always just boot a previous generation
Not everyone has that luxury though
True, I still think it’s fair to criticize the package managers and distros for not anticipating this common scenario and having the ability to roll back easily. How many millions of Linux users have experienced this issue? I’ll bet a few.
Debian, Gentoo come from another generation and sometimes it shows, I mean snapshots weren’t even a thing yet AFAIK.
Actually, I don’t think you could break a system in quite this way in Gentoo these days. Portage generally doesn’t remove packages during upgrades (certainly not unrelated ones that would break the depgraph!). It would have exited with (in this case) a message about version conflicts before changing any packages and left it for the user to sort out. Modern versions of portage do a pretty good job of keeping you from shooting yourself in the foot by accident, while leaving you with a lot of leeway for doing so on purpose.
This is one of the reasons I love nix. Most of the time if I break it I just roll back, if I really fuck it up I just reinstall, rebuild my config and I’m back
I used to update my laptop in class because my school’s WiFi was so much faster than my home internet.
Good person! This is how you learn Linux and gain experience. Trying to understand why something happened and trying to fix it using that understanding. Not “just reinstall” or worse “you should use X distro instead.”
This doesn’t feel like something that should happen. Like at all. I don’t want experience repairing stuff. I want stuff not breaking. I know mos tpeople here treat a OS like a hobby, but for most people its a tool.
This has some “yes do as I say” vibes
A Linus moment (the other Linus)
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yum history undo lastThere’s a colossal amount of work that goes into making that command usable and reliable, and I’m glad to say the yum-adjacent distros are still putting in the effort. That may change, but so far it’s been there to save my bacon when I need it.
kinda love how you used gnome with macbook it fits soo well
Yes, DO AS I SAY!
This guy doesnt use tabs
I want the process of switching between things to always be the same
May use a little more memory but may be fine. How do you do this? Ctrl+N always?
Ctrl+N, and super+tab set to switch between all windows
Why more memory?
More memory because Firefox forks browser tab processes to save memory, and you spawn an entire separate browser with more processes apart from just the one tab.
That’s why it’s a good idea to take a btrfs snapshot before updating or changing things. Snapshots are almost instant and sure save a lot of work if you break something.
Debian GNU/Linux 12 dullbananas-macbookpro161 tty1 dullbananas-macbookpro161 login:What more do you need?!
Lol but seriously,
Remove: ...gnome-shell...That’ll do it.
You should consider setting up btrfs w/ Timeshift.
Congratulations 🎉 Nice work figuring it out.
Gotta love the idea that when you uninstall a package all the packages that depend on it must be removed for consistency.
Out of curiosity, what were you looking to gain from the pipewire upgrade?
Trying to fix a crash after suspend, and log mentions pipewire being tainted (part of an “oops” if i remember correctly)
Yet even without a WM, still better than macOS
I feel you. I once was messing around with python and realized I had too many python versions installed for no reason, so I uninstalled them all to install a single one.
Oh the pain.
That’s a fun mistake to make. I had a similar thing happen with Kubuntu uninstalling my GPU drivers. I could never figure out what caused it.
Reminds me of what happened with PopOS. I did not expect this to happen with Debian. I’m glad you figured something out and have a working system again! Maybe we really need Atomic style distributions for stable environments.
