Edit: NOTE, I am the receiver of the texts.

So many people asking me to have my wife do something different on her end.

Beloved, she is on iPhone because she doesn’t want to do anything “weird.” She is texting from her phone number using her texting app. That’s what’s going to happen.

Now, why can’t I get iMessage on my android phone? If it’s just a messenger app why not make it available for Android?

I’d use it.

  • @Zak@lemmy.world
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    SMS/MMS has really low file size limits, and iPhones may downscale a little more aggressively than required.

    Just pick an internet based messaging service. I like Signal, but they all work.

    • @AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca
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      328 months ago

      The next version of iOS should add support for RCS which should allow for cross platform larger images as well.

        • @AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca
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          218 months ago

          To be far, apple has had iMessage since 2011 and no one cared about RCS until it was adopted on Android in 2019.

          • @9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world
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            To be additionally fair, Android still has phones out there in use that still dont have the RCS feature, and never will because those phones are no longer supported.

              • @AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca
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                With a 5 year support cycle on iOS devices getting OS updates, ALL of the iPhones going back to 2019 (when it was added to android) will likely support RCS

        • Track_Shovel
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          48 months ago

          Fucking honestly - it’s the theme for their whole product line

      • @Zak@lemmy.world
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        RCS from what I can tell still has some significant limitations, like the version common on Android having some Google proprietary extensions it’s not clear if other vendors will fully support. I’d still recommend something like Signal to most people, though RCS improves the experience for those not using that.

        • @xlash123@sh.itjust.works
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          It’s all a huge mess… Apple is complying with the RCS spec, but isn’t using Google’s proprietary encryption method because it’s proprietary. Google also won’t open the API on Android to allow for 3rd party RCS apps. So until Google decides to abandon their stronghold over the encryption standard and API access, RCS will continue to suck from a privacy standpoint.

          • @Zak@lemmy.world
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            I haven’t been following the RCS story closely. My impression is it’s a standard core on which each provider can tack on nonstandard extensions, and somehow carriers are involved even though it’s internet-based. It sounds like people who won’t adopt third-party internet messaging apps are going to continue to have a bad time.

  • @Zak@lemmy.world
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    So many people asking me to have my wife do something different on her end. Beloved, she is on iPhone because she doesn’t want to do anything “weird.”

    Assuming using a third-party messaging app is “weird”, then she can’t send you video with acceptable quality. That’s how it is.

    She can’t fix that. You can’t fix that. None of the readers here can fix that unless they work at Apple. This may improve in the future when Apple adopts RCS, but there’s a lot that real-world implementations of RCS do that isn’t in the standard, so the full details of interoperability are uncertain until we see it in the wild.

    Now, why can’t I get iMessage on my android phone?

    Because Apple doesn’t want you to. Apple wants situations like this one to pressure people to buy iPhones because that’s apparently easier for some people than agreeing on a messaging app.

    • @proudblond@lemmy.world
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      48 months ago

      I have an iPhone and whenever my Android-owning friend sends me something, it’s a tiny thumbnail of a photo. So yeah, goes both ways.

      • @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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        That wouldn’t be an issue today if Apple had started supporting RCS, the replacement for the old SMS/MMS system years ago like every Android phone. Instead of trying to strangle it by acting like iMessage on iOS was the only solution.

  • @Roopappy@lemmy.ml
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    318 months ago

    The real reason: Apple intentionally doesn’t support the open protocols that send pics and videos to non-Apple devices. These protocols are a decade old and work great. They use a proprietary protocol instead, which they will not share with other phone manufacturers.

    What the average iPhone user thinks: Apple is better than Android!

    It’s pretty dumb.

    • @smackjack@lemmy.world
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      The thing is, Apple phones do support these things, but only if they change the default messenger app, and most Apple users won’t do that. IPhone users are worse than Windows users when It comes to changing their default apps.

      • @Roopappy@lemmy.ml
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        Unless I did a really poor job researching it, you cannot change your default SMS/MMS application on an iPhone.

        You can use other messaging apps like Signal, Whatsapp, Telegram, or AIM. But if you want to use SMS, you have to use iMessage.

        Maybe this is US-specific though. Europe often forces Apple to do things they don’t do here.

      • If you mean changing which app natively gets used for texting, that’s not something you can do on iOS. You can choose to open a different app, but if I tell Siri to text someone it will always 100% without a doubt no way to circumvent it use the standard Messages app. iOS doesn’t let you change your default for texts.

        Hell, they only allow you to change your default web browser because they were dragged into court kicking and screaming. And even then, all third-party browsers are forced to use Safari’s engine for the backend, and aren’t allowed to use their own engines. Even Chrome, Firefox, and Brave are just reskins of Safari on iOS. And even then, any apps that open an in-app browser will still use Safari even when your default browser is different. For instance, I’m browsing lemmy on Voyager, and it opens all links in a built in Safari browser, (even though my default browser is set to Firefox.)

    • @Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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      Me and my wife do this and its pretty much the only person we talk to on there.

      Its got some nice features to keep track of images and such. I was surprised she went for it really, usually 99% of the ideas I mention to her get turned down lol

      Oh forgot to add, we also have android and iOS.

      • @Anonymouse@lemmy.world
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        38 months ago

        I had to double check that I didn’t write this because those words could have literally come from my fingers.

          • @Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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            One of my wife’s friends started a group chat there for some reason. Maybe the facebook app attacked them? Who knows but its catching on!

  • Obinice
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    Sending multimedia via traditional text messaging uses the MMS service, which is ideal for very low resolution images, like sub megabyte, I didn’t even know it could support videos! Wild.

    I suggest you add her on something like Discord, or WhatsApp, LINE, whatever works for you, and send each other multimedia that way :-)

    Also depending on your provider you may incur lower costs and faster load times, too.

    • @jrubal1462@mander.xyz
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      I’m not OP but I might as well be. My family has a group chat that exists almost exclusively to send pics/videos of the kids to each other. It’s a mixed group of android/iOS, so the videos come through with 12 pixels. I have begged and pleaded for every key to switch to telegram, GroupMe, Gchat, Facebook… ANYTHING!!

      But they’re all on iPhone because they specifically don’t want to be tweaking or customizing anything in their phones.

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    I think everyone has explained the how and why, but not any real solutions that don’t involve using a completely different application. I don’t have an iPhone in front of me, but with Android you can share as a link to Google Photos instead of sending the picture/video directly. I am pretty sure you can do something similar with iCloud. Have her try the share as iCloud link instead.

    Update: I just tested it. I had them open up Photos, go to the image/video, tap the share button, and then if you scroll down a tiny bit there is a share as iCloud link. I was able to view it just fine on my Android phone.

  • @bobo@lemmy.world
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    Keep a stock message on your phone to cut and paste whenever an iPhone user sends you a potato-quality video. This is mine:

    Please don’t send video to me via iMessage from your iPhone. In fact, you really shouldn’t send video via iMessage at all. Video sent by Apple looks terrible on non-iOS phones. This is not a shortcoming of other phones, this is entirely Apple’s fault and is their explicit intention. If you want to send a video from your iPhone, you can open the Photos app, tap the share button, and select “share as an iCloud link”. That will enable All users to view your glorious video of your cat/kids/dinner/vacation/rant/whatever in the high resolution that your overpriced phone is capable of. Another option is to send the video using a messaging app such as Signal or WhatsApp. Alternate messaging apps are what most of the world use in lieu of sms/mms text messaging.

    This is a form letter response and you will get it every time you send me video from your iPhone via iMessage.

    P.S. I love you

    • @I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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      What a great way to let your friends and loved ones know you are insufferable to deal with and will drop a rant on them about your minor inconveniences at every opportunity.

      • @vxx@lemmy.world
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        Hey, it worked! They stopped sending him videos in low res. In fact they stopped sending him videos all together.

  • @fjordbasa@lemmy.world
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    Messaging between iPhones uses iMessage and messaging between android probably uses RCS, both of which do not have the limitations of MMS, which is a limit of around 3.5 MB for most carriers. “Texting” pictures and videos from iPhone to android or vice versa will likely use MMS, hence the blurry media. Until Apple joins the party, the solution is to use another app like WhatsApp, telegram, signal, etc.

  • @geometry dash the RCS is not something Apple does. Your messages are currently unencrypted and of worse quality; however, this will be rectified shortly. In the meantime, you are better off using a different messaging software.