• ramble81@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    Cloud was never supposed to be “cheap”. It has always been a utility based model where you pay for how much you use it. The problem is, way too many people used is as a 1:1 replacement without rearchitecting their workloads, so of course it’s gonna be more expensive.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      Not just that, but the big value proposition was supposed be that you wouldn’t need sysadmins. In practice, these services are so complex that you need a dedicated skill set to use them, except now it’s specific skills for each provider that aren’t directly transferable.

  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 years ago

    A primary purpose of technology under capitalism is the violent control of people and the planet. Any actual progress is an unwanted side effect.

  • PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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    Uber was always more expensive then a taxi, at least in NYC/London. It was originally marketed as a “luxury” transportation option. The cloud was always ~2x more Operation Expenses with the value proposition that you didn’t have any Capital Expenses so if you were a startup it was easier to sell-out and get started with lower risk. Streaming is still cheaper then cable, but it is getting shittier.

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      Streaming is still cheaper than cable

      That really depends on where you live. With my current provider here in the Netherlands, I would be paying 12.50 euros extra for TV.

      Netflix standard is already more expensive than that at 13.99.

  • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    I’ve been adding a bunch of torrent-focused features to both lemmy-ui and jerboa this week, the next releases of both should have them.

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    2 years ago

    Clowd was never cheap; it was versatile, and it still is.

    Just, please, get over this ‘cheap’ fallacy. It’s expensive as shit, either in direct costs or the labour required to min-max for savings. If you’re not regularly bulldozing a massive portion of your stuff or running in two regions for resilience, then you should just look at another idea – and Don’t say Azure, as there’s a reason we call that cheap hot-garbage ‘unsure’.

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      2 years ago

      thank you. came to the comments to say exactly this.

      cloud could be cheap, but it’s a lot of work, or at least attention. people get disappointed with the costs, paradoxically, because cloud is easy and, as you put, versatile. and often between any two options allowing to do the same thing, the easier one will be more expensive.

      the biggest irony of the cloud is that many companies it seems, just like different species evolved into crabs, discover that all they need is a couple of own servers in a managed hosting environment, a CDN and outlook.

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      Indeed.

      Cloud is useful for things like flexibility - you need massive dynamic expansion/contraction of resources? Cloud can do it… But at a cost.

      Or for a startup - you need resources quickly, but don’t want to invest in physical hardware because that’s a risky investment if the business doesn’t survive. But again, it’s not cheap.

      Worst of all, each cloud provider has a convoluted system of features, by design, intended to lock you in to their system once you learn it. So you still have staff dedicated to that.

      The problem with cloud is much better explained here (I have no idea who this person is, just found their blog to be well written).

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    Is there a reasonable explanation for this or is it plain greed? In my book, technology gets always cheaper, but scalability is also always a concern.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      2 years ago

      It’s just greed. Companies exist to create profit for their shareholders, any social value they produce in the process is strictly incidental.

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              Yeah, I think people who rise to the top are products of selection pressures they’re exposed to, and capitalism selects for the entirely wrong things. You’re just another victim of capitalist realism bud.