• @Alice@beehaw.org
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      I don’t think there’s a lot of research on it, but it’s a way to measure aphantasia, the inability to picture something in your mind. I’m a 4 and didn’t actually know anything higher existed until I started talking to other artists.

  • Elaine Cortez
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    I’m a 1. I was today years old when I learned that there are people who can only visualize the outline of an apple, nothing at all, or anything other than a fully 3D rendered apple like in a computer generated image. To answer your question, no I don’t!

    • queermunist she/her
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      I remember when I learned people weren’t just being metaphorical when they talked about “picturing” something in their mind.

      Do you have an internal dialogue? Or is it all visual? Cuz my internal world is basically a lightly illustrated book, 95% dialogue and occasionally I can imagine a vague image.

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        Both internal dialogue which sounds the same as my spoken voice alongside images or videos, similar to when there’s a montage being narrated in a movie is the best way I can explain it. This is all fascinating to me now! Do you dream very often?

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          I only seem to dream if I’m not sleeping well. I can pretty reliably make myself dream by having coffee before bed. Otherwise, nope, there’s just a vague sense that time has passed when I wake up. If I do dream it’s highly visual, though.

          • anguo
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            You only remember your dreams when sleeping lightly. You most likely still dream.

      • @terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I can create images, sounds, smells, etc the whole gaumut experience OF an apple in my mind. I almost always go for visual it made up in my mind. Just depends.

        Not the person you were asking, but seems like you’re curious.

        • queermunist she/her
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          Damn that’s wild, all I can do is verbally describe sounds and smells to myself in my internal dialogue.

      • @LittleBorat2@lemmy.ml
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        How do you think quickly if you need to say everything in your mind? Is the voice very quick?

        It’s also unfathomable to me how people can think of what they need to do tomorrow and not see it.

        I just think we don’t understand our own internal processes very well. The conscious part may come long after we had the thought and if you say it or see it doesn’t matter.

        • queermunist she/her
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          How do you think quickly if you need to say everything in your mind? Is the voice very quick?

          Pretty quick, yeah. It’s basically my voice, but also, I don’t need to breathe or move my mouth or anything. Ever heard the term “stream of consciousness”? Also, grammar and punctuation aren’t necessary, I can just talktalktalktalktalk and I understand myself because I always know what I’m saying.

          I’m sure if you could listen to my thoughts it would sound like a fucking mess tho lol

          But also, there’s a difference between when I’m just thinking about stuff to myself and when I’m busy doing something. If I’m in a flow state or “in the zone”, I don’t necessarily monologue everything I’m doing. I just do it, y’know? It’s only when I slow down to think that my thoughts actually become dialogue again.

          It’s also unfathomable to me how people can think of what they need to do tomorrow and not see it.

          I can’t imagine why you need to see it! I know I need to lay some mulch on my garden tomorrow, I don’t need to visualize that? I can just make a mental note of it and keep that thought stored away as part of a to-do list. What would I even use pictures for when I can just tell myself “I need to do X, Y, and Z”?

          I just think we don’t understand our own internal processes very well. The conscious part may come long after we had the thought and if you say it or see it doesn’t matter.

          Well yeah, consciousness is an illusion. I think they’ve demonstrated with active brain scans that our conscious thoughts come after we’ve already made subconscious decisions. We make up our minds before we know it, consciousness is more like a way we convince ourselves to do the things we’ve already decided we want to do.

      • @phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
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        I’m a 2 on the scale unless i try (I can do 1 but it’s not fast or easy for complex things).

        Visualization isn’t usually an active thing for me. But when you say “think of a car accident” I can visualize one generic car t-boning another on a generic road. If you ask me to describe a room in my house I visualize most of the things there and described based off that visualization.

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          I’m a 3 for memories, a 4 for everything else. Before my head injury I was a 5 for everything (no idea what that’s about lol)

          I can describe a car accident in great detail and draw a picture of it, but in my brain I’m just verbally describing the car accident to myself as if I’m the narrator.

      • @0ops@lemm.ee
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        For me when I’m daydreaming it’s like watching a movie, my eyes might be open but I don’t see shit, my brain’s doing other things. Or when I’m visualizing something it’s like free and organic AR. But yeah, no dialogue necessary, it’s like a hallucination that I control.

    • @Alice@beehaw.org
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      In my case, it’s not exactly like an outline, it’s just… I can’t describe it because I can’t actually focus on it, it’s like a cross between a picture and a notion. But somehow, in the lineup, the outline seems like the most accurate level of detail.

      Also color is absent for me, don’t know about for others.

    • @frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mlOP
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      right, coz there’s no point if you can make better images in your head, yeah?

      you don’t run into problems like awful actors, or they suddenly introduce a fetish you’re not into

      is that about right?

      • Jerkface (any/all)
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        That’s like saying there’s no point in having sex with other people because you know how best to touch yourself.

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          You are totally on point, to answer op and staying in topic, that’s like the difference between wanking and being wanked, both will get you there but being passive and enjoying new things is always nice. It’s not because you can visualize it that you can think of it. Moreover I have great spatial and detailed mind visualization but I have trouble with faces. As an example I can visualize myself navigating in streets and places, I can rotate objects in my mind and other stuff, but faces are hard for me, like reading in a dream . In real life too I have a bad faces recognition/memory.

        • @froh42@lemmy.world
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          I agree with the last statement at about a 70% level. The last 30% missing is - like you can’t tickle yourself, there’s some sensations that are different just because another person does them to you.

          I’m not anti relationship, it’s just when viewing sex alone a lot of the things I experienced with someone else are just overrated. With very very few exceptions when I met humans with extremely high emotional intelligence.

          But maybe in the end that’s all a discussion, that we all are generally bad in knowing and communicating what feels good for each other.

  • @DeadWorld@lemm.ee
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    I’m a 1 and yes I do. I can imagine something, but it’s hard to concentrate on something super detailed and fully enjoy myself

  • Christian
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    I’m looking through this thread and the concept behind the picture is 100x more fascinating to me than the actual question. Is the number your maximum capability?

    I’d estimate I go through the majority (90℅?) of each day at like a 4 bordering on 5, but at times I’ll move up to 2. It’s a pretty seamless transition, I don’t really have an explanation for why it only happens every so often. It’s not like it’s exclusively reserved for moments where it’s more useful.

  • @RyanLiu@lemmy.world
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    I’m a 1, and yes I watch porn to collect “materials” to concoct the most perfect porn in my head that no one has seen and will never see.

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    I’m 1 and watch every day, though i read many books too, so everything balances out, also my work requires a lot of improvisation that makes you think on problem solving, so positive impact is bigger

  • @Mothra@mander.xyz
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    I’m a 1, a woman if this weighs in your data collection, and the answer is, sometimes but not too often. It really depends on the mood.

    It’s the same with movies really, I can fantasize about a million stories in my mind, heck I can be the protagonist but I still enjoy being unable to predict what’s going to happen even on just purely a visual level, not that porn has very intricate plots.

    What puts me off most of the time is having to go through the search. I’m very picky and having to see the “wrong” type of content in order to find the “right” can really put me off or sometimes bore me.

  • @Zahille7@lemmy.world
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    Without any explanation whatsoever, I had to rely on other comments to figure out what the hell you were asking.

    I’m probably a 1.5, and yes I watch porn.

        • @frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mlOP
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          One thing I’m learning from this thread is maybe some people can visualise but it takes them effort?

          Strange to imagine minds that are not one’s own.

          • @Zahille7@lemmy.world
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            I mean for me it’s like a checklist. But it goes by fast. Like I’ll list the characteristics and then apply them to a kind of “3D model” in my head.

            Or I’ll just use past objects from my memory. I’ve seen lots of apples in my life, lol.

            • @frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mlOP
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              I mean for me it’s like a checklist. But it goes by fast. Like I’ll list the characteristics and then apply them to a kind of “3D model” in my head.

              This sounds familiar.

          • @shapesandstuff@feddit.de
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            Imo its just a different thing.

            Like, 1 or 2 here with sort of moving images like memories, sounds, conversations.

            I still listen to interviews despite being able to make up convos in my head. I watch comedy despite being able to make up jokes and funny stories.

            I watch movies despite being able to visualise whatever i want.

  • @Toneswirly@lemmy.world
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    Im a 1 and I like adult content but i especially like games, 3D and traditional animation. Cause yeah, i can go in the spank bank in my head if I need to, but its never gonna be as fantastical as what an animator can do