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      Proving Netflix could be replaced outdone by five hard working people.

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      They didn’t need the army of lawyers to get license deals, so that’s not a fair comparison.

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        Its almost like its unecessary shit made up in order to keep profits away from working people artificially

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          Yeah its almost like if we didn’t keep extending copyright protections a bunch of stuff would be in the public domain and any streaming service could offer it without having to deal with licensing.

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          It’s true that Hollywood is corrupt and csuite pay is absurd, but those deals are the only mechanism by which ANY money makes it to the writers, actors and staff who deserve it

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            It’s the exclusivity bullshit that gets me.

            It could be: New movie is released! Anyone who pays the price tag gets to stream it!

            But no, we must bidding war gouge.

            On top of that, X Y and Z services exist in America, but not in other countries, so in this other country, everything is on Netflix, while I had to jump between three different services at one point just to watch Stargate

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              Hey, you’re just salty that you didn’t get in on the ground floor when Stargate was being exclusively streamed in a dedicated Stargate streaming service

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        Their scale was also an insignificant fraction of what Netflix has, making the point even more irrelevant.

        The best figure I could find on Jetflicks user count was 37k, where as Netflix has 269 million users.

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          Prices should go down with scale not up though.

          There’s initial investment on the initial servers (and the software), and afterwards it should be a linear increase of server costs per user, with some bumps along the way to interconnect those servers.

          The cost also scales per content. Because that means more caching servers per user and bigger databases, and licenses.

          So this service has less users and more content, it should be way more expensive. The only reason they are cheaper is because they don’t pay those licenses.

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            The cost of storage in this case is more or less irrelevant - traffic is what matters here. You’re also not getting any mentionable bulk discount on the servers for that matter.

            The key is that you can engineer things in completely different way when you have trivial amounts of traffic hitting your systems - you can do things that will not scale in any way, shape or form.

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      The only reason all companies prices go up these days is for CEO pay packages

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        Like Boeing’s CEO making 300 million… imagine 300 people who worked their ass off could make million. Or 1500 hard workers could be making 200k. But nah, let’s just drag these huge bags of money into this one asshole’s account. Oh there were a couple of crashes right? 👍 Our thoughts and prayers 🙏. But not our money wagons.

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        Does Netflix make shows? Or does it slam its name onto filmmakers it pays to make content? If so, one of those things simply requires throwing cash at people, which I think is a skill that most people can learn.

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            They had to operate under the radar to avoid the law, so you know the answer to your question

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              So Netflix actually pays for shows to get made, so when everyone pays for Netflix, it lets everyone enjoy them. Pirate sites only extract value from the hard work of the producers, without paying them.

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                producers don’t make the content, they speak to the right people in their exclusive circles to finance it, put their name on it, and then pay the directors and actors a tiny fraction of what it earned

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                  Okay, now tell me how pirate sites contribute to creation of said content

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    Love how they make this sound like some incredible feat. When you aren’t bound to license agreements, turns out it’s actually very easy to have a “massive” content library. Literally the only hurdle is storage space.

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      I mean, distributing it isn’t a small feat. Plus you need to manage subscriptions, billings, CMS, a front end to navigate the content, etc.

      That’s no small amount of work, even if they used out of the box solutions for many layers.

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      Yeah it costs, depending on quality of course.
      My 14 TB disks are filling up faster than I expected and I am not close to Netflix’s catalogue.

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        Yeah, I got a 14tb drive back in February and it’s 90 percent full already. My media collection will always grow to fill the space available.

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    Nobody gives a shit, you’re not doing enough to punish trump for his obvious, literally filmed and recorded crimes.

    This is the equivalent of the cops celebrating after beating peaceful college protesters while pissing their pants and freezing while the uvalde kids were slaughtered and psychologically tortured.

    You’re focusing on the non victory and ignoring the failures. Cowards.

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      When cops only legal responsibility is to enforce the law, and the laws are written to protect corporate interests, of course they will stand outside the school and arrest protesters. SCOTUS has ruled that way so many times that “to serve and protect” is literally gaslighting.

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        Nobody gives a shit, you’re not doing enough to punish trump for his obvious, literally filmed and recorded crimes.

        This is the equivalent of the cops celebrating after bearing peaceful college protesters while pissing their pants and freezing while the uvalde kids were slaughtered and psychologically tortured.

        You’re focusing on the non victory and ignoring the failures. Cowards.

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    I run a massive streaming service too, which is also way bigger than all the streamers combined. It’s just only distributed over my private home network. Jellyfin for the win!

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      Love my Jellyfin server, but I have 2 gripes over just using VLC.

      • Can’t use the scroll wheel for volume. It’s a pain aiming for the volume from across the room on the couch.

      • JF won’t boost volume past 100% like VLC.

      Know of any fixes?

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        Are you playing directly on your server?

        For the first one at least you could solve it by running JF with a Chromecast or similar device.
        Feels cleaner than a wireless mouse in the living room too, IMO

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        JF won’t boost volume past 100% like VLC.

        For when you need to take it to 11

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        You can run your Jellyfin connection inside of Kodi which has a ton of configuration options like the volume control.

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        I don’t watch on my computer, that’s just where it’s hosted. I watch mostly on my AppleTV using Infuse (also great for other Apple products as well)

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        Can’t use the scroll wheel for volume. It’s a pain aiming for the volume from across the room on the couch.

        apparently this is supposed to be coming in the 9.0 feature release. So soon™ I’d have to look to be sure, but apparently it’s coming.

        Volume is weird, i feel like i’d almost like either a “volume target” option, to match volume levels between content, or some sort of fixed audio boost level. Idk.

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          Volume is weird, i feel like i’d almost like either a “volume target” option, to match volume levels between content, or some sort of fixed audio boost level. Idk.

          Adding replaygain tags to your content could help here, but it’s a manual process, particularly since it’s not normally included in released videos. And I’m not sure if jellyfin supports replaygain tags from video (presumably it does for audio only files).

          mpv definitely does support it at least, with “–replaygain=track”.

          Of course, none of this helps with OPs situation, because enabling replaygain will actually lower the volume on most files, so it can account for high dynamic range content.

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            yeah considering i have literal terabytes of youtube content on my jellyfin, i think i’ll probably abstain, unless i do some really dirty automation on it, in which case i might not, because that would be funny.

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        It’s weird to me that anyone would use a PC hooked up to a TV from a couch in 2024, but I’m sure it (otherwise) works for you.

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            Already back in the 00s you could get a media player box, with a remote, that hooked to you TV and played video files from any share in your network or an HDD hooked up to it.

            Nowadays you can get an Android TV media player box with Kodi on it (or you can install it), again with a remote and hooked to your TV to do the same as that 00s media player box but looks a lot more fancy.

            Or instead of an Android TV you can get a Mini PC or older laptop, ideally with Linux, with an HDMI output which you connect to your TV, install Kodi on it and get a wireless air-mouse remote (if you get one with normal remote buttons rather than the stupid “for Google” ones, the buttons seamlessly integrate with Kodi so you don’t really have to use the air-mouse stuff).

            Alternativelly if you want to avoid Android but don’t want to spend 150 bucks on a mini PC, you can get one of those System On A Board devices like one of the Orange Pi ones, put LibreElec on it (small Linux distro built around Kodi) and do the wireless remote thing with it.

            The back end of any of this is either files on a NAS, on a share on a PC, a harddisk connected directly to the device or even something like Jellyfin running somewhere else (which can be outside your home network) or even any of the many IPTV services out there.

            It has never been this easy to put together a hardware and software solution, entirely under your control - read: just as easy to use for corporate streaming services as for “personal” media - to watch media in your living room with the same convenience as purpose built devices for that, and it has never been this convenient to use or looked this good.

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              I think it’s just easier to use a cheap computer. You can use your vpn, adblockers, takes zero setup time to watch whatever you want to watch.

              The 00’s comment, I modded the original xbox to run xbox media center (XBMC) which turned into Kodi. My friends where blown away I could download movies and watch them on my tv.

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                Well, the easiest IMHO is the Android TV box (mainly because it comes with a remote) but I personally have a cheap Mini-PC because I used it to do a lot more than just being a media box and it still just sits in the living room in the TV stand.

                Way back when I started (trying to have something in my living room, rather that absolute started which was way before that) all that I had was a cheap media box with an interface that was basically a file browser, accessing files over Samba.

                Stuff is way fancier nowadays AND you can do it with much cheaper hardware if you want to.

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            Instead of using a streaming or other settop device? That’d be far, far more normal for the use cade.

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              I find it convenient, but I’ve had pc’s hooked to tv’s since broadband became a thing. I can watch anything, download anything, play games, check banking, ect.

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              I have one of those Google streaming devices but I hate giving up my privacy. Also, I saw fast food ads on the device’s home screen one day and I couldn’t disable those. That was the last straw.

              So now I use a raspberry pi 5 running arch with Firefox to stream everything to my TV. I even got a remote working with it that works fairly well, moves the mouse and everything. It was a lot of work but now I own my experience and don’t have to give Google my data in that particular way anymore.

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                From a couch, though? That was the use case here.

                I have one of those as well for one desktop system. And I will stream to TVs as a second monitor from laptops sometimes. But I don’t think that’s the setup they have.

                Which of course is a good setup if it works for them! Or for you :)

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          it’s not weird at all, for one, you get to use a keyboard, for second, you get to use actual real hardware that isn’t spying on you and selling your data. You also get to use a real QWERTY based, or whatever other layout you want that isn’t ABCDE what a fucking abomination that layout is.

          plus you get a whole desktop OS if you please, or if not you can cold roll something specifically for a TV. You just have so many more options, than you do when using a smart tv or generic streaming box.

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      How many PBs you got and how many clients (humans)?

      How much traffic across your network in terms of a daily average?

      Do you have a local recommendation system running? For example I found a last.fm clone, self-hosted hut I haven’t found much for video

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        Uh it’s just me and whoever is on my local network. I don’t port anything or have any users outside my home. When I go on trips I just download movies and shows from my network to my devices

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    The only thing I’m pisseed about is the fact that I was unaware of its existence. Fuck the system

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      You might be overestimating how much content that was. Streaming services try to maintain an illusion of neverending content but last I saw except for prime, the amount of content they offer has been trending down.

      Those numbers are fairly accessible for an average person with 3 or 4 large hard drives.

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      You can always start creating your own personal media server, using apps such as Plex or Jellyfin, and qBittorrent, SABnzbd, etc.

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        I’ve been trying to do just that and it’s slow going with qB, if one was looking to avoid dens of sins where you might find a usenet key, where should I stay away from?

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          If they’re servicing that many users their UX should be better, but it’s not. Search should work better, but it doesn’t. They should let me make playlists, but they don’t.

          Yes, scale is hard but it shouldn’t be hard to put a clock in the pause screen showing me what time the show will be done. And that’s just a tiny way Plex is better.

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    They’re here doing everyone a service. Why are there resources to prosecute this but not like elon musk’s insider trading?

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    You gotta be stupid as shit to run something like this from the US and keep a financial tail of credit card payments to you.

    You also gotta be stupid as shit to actually pay 10 bux for this.

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      It ran functionally uncontested for ten years. And it would hardly have been the first underground streaming service to pivot legit and cash out.

      Napster was sold for $85M back in 2002. Justin.tv rebranded as Twitch in 2011. Hell, AWS has it’s share of pirate hosted files.

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    If they had more content on offer than the big legal streaming services combined, should that not tell us something about the quality of legal offers?

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      What’s there to learn that isn’t already widely known? Existing (copyright) laws are asinine and all corporations eventually become consumed by greed. That’s America in a nutshell.

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    Farewell heroes. I may not have heard of you before, but I shall mourn your departure nevertheless.

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    It harmed no one and nothing.

    TV and Film are just angry that competition did it for a reasonable price and provided a superior service for it.

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      I have 0 sympathy for the studios/distributors but they also did not pay the licensing fees.

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        then i guess the studios should stop enshitifying streaming and make a service thats affordable and worth using, huh?

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    This is despicable. What specific service was this? So I know how to avoid it if it should resurface.

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      Not only does it say that in the first paragraph, it says it here

      Five men were convicted for their part in operating Jetflicks, one of the largest illegal streaming services in the U.S., officials said.

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    Why didn’t you nerds tell me about this, I’m over here hoofing it with this got damn 2tb ssd