I’m considering switching from Windows 10 to something either using KDE or the new Cosmic DE that System76 is working on. Right now I’ve got a 3060TI.
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/967
The short version of the story, wait until this has landed in your distro of choice, or you’ll have flickering problems.
How would I find out this patch is in, say, Fedora?
First, wait for that pull request to actually show “merged” instead of open, then, wait for a release of xwayland, you can find those here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/tags
Once that’s been released, note the version number of the version of xwayland that has explicit sync
https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/xorg-x11-server-Xwayland/xorg-x11-server-Xwayland/
then look here and see if the version number matches or is greater than it.
edit: woo it’s merged.
Last I heard, Nvidia was planning to release support in their drivers for explicit sync in Wayland in
May in their 555 beta driver releaseactually it looks like it might not be merged until Nvidia’s 560 driver. I wouldn’t expect full support until at least then. Maybe we’ll have some support in Fedora by June? You’ll hear about it in the Linux and Linux Gaming communities on Lemmy, so look for it there. Fedora will be pretty early adopters, so it shouldn’t be long after the changes are merged until you’ll see support in Fedora. Do note that it isn’t as bleeding edge as Arch though, so expect it to lag a week behind Arch support (maybe a little more?).Also, if you’re between KDE and COSMIC, go with KDE. COSMIC isn’t even in alpha yet, and there are no distros that support it yet. KDE has great support and just merged a lot of performance and bug fixes in the last mega release (Plasma 6). Fedora has a KDE spin, and Plasma 6 will come with Fedora 40’s KDE spin when it releases on the 16th of this month. That will be before explicit sync support though, so I’d say there’s no rush unless you’re really interested in Linux. Nvidia on Wayland is still pretty good without explicit sync support, but explicit sync is essentially the last thing that most people are waiting on. It’s kind of like the last nail in X’s coffin before Wayland is 100% viable on Nvidia. It will fix a lot of little annoyances (flickering, stuttering, etc). KDE has VRR support and a lot of great gaming support, so it’s a good choice.
You found your way here. Just wait until it happens. Alternately maybe follow Fedoras release notes
last i used it, 3ish months ago, it was still unusable.
try dual booting with the latest ubuntu and try a few things, customise it a bit. you might be surprised how good things are!
It largely depends on the program. If the application has native Wayland support then it usually works pretty well, but apps that only run on X11 (which need to run through Xwayland) may be a little glitchy. It will depend on a lot of different variables including drivers, model, libraries, kernel, etc. But later this month Nvidia is to release new drivers that allow “explicit sync”, which should address a lot of this I believe.
It’s the other way around. Wayland will add support for explicit sync. Nvidia drivers can do explicit sync, what they can’t do is implicit sync, which is what’s currently causing issues with Wayland + Nvidia.
Besides g/free-sync and stuff like framegeneration not being supported Nvidia works just fine for me incl for gaming
Okay that’s good to know, thanks!
None of the issues I have with wayland stem from my nvidia GPU, and I’m on a laptop.
I think it was just a lie told often enough its become ‘true’.
I’ve been using it with gnome and nixos and it’s been fine. No crashes pretty stable good preformace
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I currently have a Thinkpad W530 with a Quadro K2000M. Because I have coreboot as its firmware, I am able to run completely on the discrete GPU. So far I’ve been doing great.
I’ve looked on the feature matrix of the nouveau support and my GPU (Kepler) happens to have all the features checked-off, with the exception of dynamic power management (mostly WIP).
Right now, I’m running KDE wayland with the nouveau driver with no issue.
On the other hand, I’ve tried having the hybrid GPU and it sucks.
There’s a bug with arch distros and the Nvidia driver 550 which is breaking systems, the drivers should get updated on the 15th of May and some fixes could come out sooner, but in the meanwhile I’d wait a bit
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Only issue i get is Spotify flickers randomly
Is Spotify an electron app? I’ve noticed on my laptop (with intel gpu) that in Discord the screen flickers when selecting a gif and Discord is an Electron app I’m pretty sure.
I think it is and yeah Spotify and discord both sometimes flicker but nothing else does. They’re both installed as flatpaks
I have flickering issues with some Electron apps. Everything else seems to work fine, including a 2nd monitor. But I still dual-boot Windows for games, I’m waiting for HDR support to fully make the switch.
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