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Laugh at or complain about Ubuntu all you wish… but this type of effort really puts Linux as a compelling competitor to Windows for enterprise desktop users. Rather than paying for the Windows software license and then Microsoft or 3rd party support for the OS on top, the fees would be for dedicated operating system and package support against criticial vulnerabilities. Wouldn’t a business rather have something that “just works as it is” over the long term, rather than something that leaves sysadmins holding their breath every Patch Tuesday with Microsoft randomly shoehorning in “features” here and there that have to be shutoff in GP editor?
More people using Ubuntu means more will be comfortable switching away from mac/Windows. Plus the free software components benefit from having a dedicated team securely supporting the packages over the long term.
The longstanding issue that remains is all the industry-specialized software either crappily-coded or riddled with DRMs and whatnot don’t support Linux well yet.
This is valid for end users too. Ubuntu Pro is free for up to 5 machines. People can install 22.04 and stay on it for 10 years or 24.04 for 12 years. That’s the kind of boring stable desktop operation that only Windows XP has managed to muster and people loved it. It’s perfect for the kind of folks who hate having to do major OS upgrades, as well as people who support others for free. Cough … family IT … cough. You bet your ass the family members I support would stay on 22.04 for a looong time!
Absolutely. Perfect for the people that get spooked at one pixel not being where they were used to it being. (It could be me 😳)
Windows has much better forward and backward compatibility than Linux, that’s why 10 year old Windows is still fine. 10 year old Linux on the other side just means nothing modern will work on it. That’s really only usable in extreme edge cases. Flatpak and Snap somewhat address this, but that also puts you back into the forced-upgrade treadmill, as Flatpak runtimes don’t have LTS support (not sure how Snap handles this).
I wonder how angry will the maintainers be in 2036:
aaaa, why do we have to support this ancient release, why did we promise 12 years of support
That’s how you get successful, do something others don’t
Humorously, in 12 years we can say “well, it still works on Ubuntu” 🤷♂️
Not a problem. Ship the component as a snap instead. 😊
“Oh no, we’re getting paid to do this thing instead of some other thing.”
Part of having a job is working on things that need to be worked on, not because they’re fun.
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So next LTS might have to be resilient to the 2038 bug (32 bit signed timestamps overflow). I wonder how many softwares are vulnerable 🤔
Ubuntu is already immune to the 2038 bug. The Linux kernel even supports using a 64 bit time_t on 32 bit systems now. Of course some poorly written software could still be affected, but that’s not the fault of the kernel or operating system.
The 2038 bug will certainly cause problems in some embedded systems that still use a 32 bit time_t if they are still running by then.
Software also looks at future dates, so the problem is actually going to start to occur much sooner. The kernel will be fine, it’s all the other random software floating out there that you should worry about. A lot of in-house calendar and booking software is probably going to start to blow up soon.
Wouldnt 12 years update add up to 2036 and not 2038?
They did say next LTS
To note: this appears to be a move from 5 years (standard, free) + 5 years (extended, paid) to 5+7. Users not paying Canonical aren’t getting anything different as to with prior LTS releases.
Standard free support for 24.04 is still 2024-04 through 2029-06.
Isn’t ubuntu pro free up to 5 devices
Free for personal use, so yes-ish. That’ll certainly be a deal-breaker for some.
Realistically, people who are using it for personal use would probably be upgrading to the next LTS shortly after it’s released (or in Ubuntu fashion, once the xxxx.yy.1 release is out). People who don’t qualify to be using it for free anyway are more likely to be the ones keeping the same version for >5 years.
Laughs in Solaris 10
… for 27 years.
Holy shit I had no idea it was still in support lol, that’s wild
Solaris 11 came out in 2012 and is supported until 2035!!
What do you use it for?
That’s awesome! I wish more OS-es follow, especially Debian. Having support for an OS that can cover the whole perceived lifecycle of the hardware is something that was once (in the 2000s) the standard. This is something crucial for businesses, but it’s also great for home users.
Melts in long term support
Well, fuck. They just made Ubuntu the most relevant distro. Not like it wasn’t before, but now they knocked it up a notch - BAM!
