• @BCsven@lemmy.ca
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        012 days ago

        Is the lonely man painting his clown life in each step? No. He is just lonely as he hasn’t done the first 3 steps

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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          112 days ago

          But he still is in the fourth step, and it is presumed that the first three is how he got there.

            • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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              -212 days ago

              Exactly my point, the meme insinuates that the only way men become lonely is that they hate women, which is not true and is a harmful generalisation.

              • @BCsven@lemmy.ca
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                312 days ago

                I don’t see it that way, to me it is showing how a certain type of man becomes lonely. The other type would be 1. small social circle (real or interwebs) 2. Lonely. And no face painting, because he’s not a clown, he just hasn’t met a match

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                  011 days ago

                  That is right, but put yourself in the shoes of that other man, and ask yourself how he would feel on seeing this meme. Contrast it with memes about “only those Black people, not the good ones”.

                  • @BCsven@lemmy.ca
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                    011 days ago

                    The other dude just being lonely would realize that he didn’t think women just did dishes, and hasn’t turned all his hate of women inward. Some people are lonely and have a functioning logic system. Not to say everyone, there are always people susceptible to radicalization.

    • @bouh@lemmy.world
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      012 days ago

      Except it makes the link with loneliness, which has nothing to do with incels. By doing so, this kind of post litteraly says that alllonely men are like the worst incels.

      It is insulting. And it is directly feeding the narrative of the fascists that says that feminists are mere anti-men instead of pro-equality.

      This même is a blend of arrogance, ignorance, disdain and malice. Even the fascist are rarely doing so bad.

        • @bouh@lemmy.world
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          211 days ago

          And the progression means thatl only incels come to this conclusion. Which is where it is insulting to many men who aren’t incels.

          • @BCsven@lemmy.ca
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            011 days ago

            I don’t see it as a binary choice. Maybe some people can’t read the meme format. Anyone with critical thinking can realize this is not a Venn diagram

            • @bouh@lemmy.world
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              110 days ago

              If you had any education in logic, A => B => C means something.

              When you do this logical development, it means C is the consequence of A.

              The même format also implies that C is a stupid assertion, because it’s associated with the clown figure. It says that the existence of a loneliness epidemic is a stupid proposition.

              This is denying reality. And this is mocking the people who suffer from loneliness.

              The biggest problem is not even the link between incels and loneliness epidemic. It is the denial of the problem. This is litteraly akin to conspiracy theories.

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                10 days ago

                Its a top down progression logic of conditional statements if this then this, it doesn’t work backwards. As I mentioned elsewhere it is not a Venn diagram meme where bottom statement is the only way you could be lonely.

                • @bouh@lemmy.world
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                  010 days ago

                  If you deny that this meme is disdainful of the “there is a loneliness epidemic” statement, then you’re in bad faith.

                  Even if what you’re saying is logically true, that’s not the truth people see, as this thread demonstrates. Which means you’re in bad faith here.