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Spectre to Memes@lemmy.ml • 8 months ago

The real culprit behind all fascist movements

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The real culprit behind all fascist movements

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Spectre to Memes@lemmy.ml • 8 months ago
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  • Diplomjodler
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    -5•8 months ago

    Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, et al: am I a joke to you?

    • davel [he/him]
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      17•8 months ago

      Horseshoe theory is horseshit, and Pol pot was as much a communist as Hitler was a socialist, which is to say not at all.

      • Diplomjodler
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        -8•8 months ago

        I never claimed he was. My point is that it doesn’t matter what particular holy book any genocidal maniac waves around.

        • davel [he/him]
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          10•8 months ago

          Neither Stalin nor Mao were genocidal. Famines had been a common occurrence in Russia and China throughout recorded history. Soon after their socialist revolutions, Russia and China experienced one more famine, and have not experienced one since. They ended famines.

          • @GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml
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            6•8 months ago

            Well, Russia experienced two more, but one of them was very directly due to WWII

          • Diplomjodler
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            -6•8 months ago

            Oh dear oh dear oh dear. I have nothing to say to that.

            • davel [he/him]
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              9•8 months ago
              • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_and_famines_in_Russia_and_the_Soviet_Union
              • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines_in_China
            • Cowbee [he/they]
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              9•8 months ago

              What do you think happened instead?

            • carl_marks[use name]
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              7•8 months ago

              Good, because you’d get dunked on lib

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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      11•8 months ago

      when you definitely understand what fascism is

    • @linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml
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      5•8 months ago

      no but u are

    • @UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      If everything is to be shared under communism, wouldnt that include political power? That would make communism a direct democracy. Does that sound like the countries you have in mind?

      Perhaps there is a better unknown way to live our lives that we haven’t discovered yet. How would we ever discover it if we just allow the status quo to persist? Capitalism doesn’t even have tens of thousands of years of precedent like feudalism has. We unmake feudalism in much of the world, one day we will unmake Capitalism.

      I bet a large portion of the population would agree that how we live our lives… is bullshit and needs to be replaced. We just don’t agree with what to do next.

      we should try new things until everyone’s needs are met. This way of life is worthless as it only works for the 1%.

      • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]
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        4•8 months ago

        Capitalism doesn’t even have tens of thousands of years of precedent like feudalism has

        Feudalism doesn’t have tens of thousands of years either.

    • @DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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      Most of the deaths under Stalin were from the conman Trofim Lysenko, who created “Lysenkoism” (a set of farming techniques he was faking the data on to get paid), and under both Mao and Stalin were from unwanted famines.

    • @SupraMario@lemmy.world
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      You’re on .ml so yea tankies being tankies…

      • @InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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        5•8 months ago

        Illiterate too, Hitler wrote of Jim Crow as a model for Germany in Mein Kampf.

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