So, I completely switched to FOSS federated social networks toward the middle of 2020. I love the Fediverse, but nobody I know IRL seems to care at all about it in any capacity, so I’m basically just screaming into a void full of other FOSSheads. How do I reconcile this? How do we get our IRL peeps on the Fediverse?

  • @Niquarl@lemmy.ml
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    33 years ago

    Going on XMPP it is quite an interesting way to look at it. After all I like to contrast it to email. There must be a massive part of worldwide e-mail accounts on Gmail alone (and then when taking into account Hotmail, yahoo etc) and yet can I ever consider them defedering email?

    The crux is to never let an overwhelming majority of users on one instance, nor have this majority communicate within that same instance. I remember when I used to use GTalk I never communicated with anyone that didn’t have a GTalk account. Whereas email? Just looking at my university classes emails I can see that we have adresses in several of the big companies but not a clear over 50% in any. On top of that the University has their own email server. That’s probably a good reason why PeerTube’s vision is to get as many companies and organisations host their own instance for their videos. It’s better in the long term.

    XMPP was just never really that federated in practice.

    • GadgeteerZA
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      13 years ago

      XMPP does not really federate in the traditional sense of public posts to say Mastodon, as far as it’s chat standard goes. You connect with someone and then chat, and it pushes/pulls more like e-mail? It’s pub standard is again something others must subscribe to, to ever see the posts. And chatrooms work differently again. So maybe the thing is XMPP is not a single service, but many different standards depending on what type of service is being used. Different XMPP client apps all decide which standards they are complying with.

      I can e-mail anyone if I know their e-mail address, but XMPP requires the other party to accept an invite to connect first. The similarity does come in how the addresses are formatted though. And just like e-mail, there is no central directory to find someone’s e-mail address, that person has to let you know what it is. Of course more people publish/share their e-mail addrses on business cards than an XMPP address (yes many don’t have). Another similarity they both have, is they are open standards, maybe though with XMPP evolving more than e-mail does as a stanadrd.