Due to the recent ban of a wolfballs.com-user for “Bigotry and racism on his main account on Wolfball.” it is requested that Lemmy.ml updates the Code of Conduct to reflect actual moderation. Please consider adding that Lemmy.ml will ban users for comments made with other accounts on other instances.
How can you possibly look at that site and argue that you don’t “see fascism.” And if you’d like, I can show you all the horrible shit masterofballs personally posts.
You don’t think wolfballs is fascist. You don’t just ban bigots outright, you in fact recommend to them a website where they can get their views affirmed and radicalize farther.
Earlier on you said “leftist” is too vague but you don’t know how else to describe lemmy, but this behaviour makes it abundantly clear that you should describe it as liberal.
Maybe we have a different view what fascism means. For me fascism is calling for physical violence, like murder or genocide. Not posting memes on the internet.
dehumanizing memes that help radicalize people into being more comfortable with eliminating a group of people is literally the entire point of fascist propaganda are you serious?
edit: “I see fascism as actually killing the Jews, that’s entirely unrelated to all of these Jewish caricatures that my buddies have been passing around the Weimar Republic.”
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Im really losing track what you are arguing here. If you want to change the site rules of lemmy.ml, you should specifically suggest what the new rule(s) should be, and explain how that would improve the instance. Otherwise there is no point in continuing this discussion.
But to be honest, you are not even registered on this instance, so I dont think you should have any right to influence the rules here.
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Violence, threats of violence or violent language directed against another person. Sexist, racist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist or otherwise discriminatory jokes and language. Posting or displaying sexually explicit or violent material. Posting or threatening to post other people’s personally identifying information (“doxing”). Personal insults, particularly those related to gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, or disability."
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https://github.com/stumpsyn/policies/blob/master/citizen_code_of_conduct.md
As per the Citizen Code of Conduct linked to in Lemmy.ml’s Code of Conduct, maintaining and promoting a bigoted website is a violation, and the scope of the code of conduct extends to unacceptable behaviour occurring outside the scope of community activities
I’m not trying to influence you to change any rules, I’m saying you are not enforcing the rules that currently are in place.
Your comments on this thread are literally violating your rule 4. The irony…
If you promote racist content you get banned, end of story. I literally pointed out a meme that’s racist against black people and latinos. I literally pointed to a thread where they’re disappointed reddit won’t let them call me and people like me a “groomer”. Do you not think the rhetoric will get worse if you let it spread?
Do you think I’m a groomer @nutomic@lemmy.ml ? Do you think that I want to sit at the same table as a guy who advertises that he thinks I’m a smoothbrain? I’ve done this song and dance before. If you let wolfballs stay you will invite ruin on this place and you will have no one to blame but yourself. This isn’t about fairness. It’s about survival.
I respected you as a dev, but this is where I draw the line, when you see some stupid ideal as more important than my humanity.
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There you go nutomic, a perfect microcosmic example of what happens when you don’t ban the bigots from your forum. someone feels comfortable just saying queer people are pedophiles, because in this thread they see that debatebro season is open
You forgot the @
Doubt it matters, I’m not registered here so nutomic is physically incapable of reading and understanding what I write
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Projection much?
How did you even come to that conclusion? Please walk us through your thought process.
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You don’t know how to read
Me 10 months ago. According to your standards, it looks like a couple of my reply guys might be the groomers, given how hard they argued against me. But sure, go ahead and make yourself look like an idiot.
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The context understander has logged on. Imagine living under a rock so long you don’t understand that conservatives call lgbt people ‘groomers’ on the regular.
Also, I’m a girl. Stop calling me “he”.
Flawless logic
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I don’t think fascism can be described as those behaviors, it’s an ideology.
Those two behaviors you described aren’t in isolation. Can’t a meme be fascist propaganda? Can’t a meme attempt to dehumanize or justify violence without calling for it? Is fascism only dangerous when it reaches the point of open violence?
I don’t agree with the line of reasoning that ‘wolfballs is fascist’, I think that’s ignorant of what fascism is and why non-fascism can also be horrible, but I don’t think the ‘it’s just memes’ argument is helpful.