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TIL: The majority of Lemmys have never lived an hour from the nearest population center, down a dirt road, on a few hundred acres of wilderness. I fucking HATE musk and I still have an RV kit in my basement so when I’m traveling around hours from anywhere, Starlink works perfectly.
I live two hours from a city, waaaay up in the Alps and I have gigabit fibre for€40 a month lol
Your infrastructure sucks donkeyballs 😂
two hours is waaaay out there guys!
My sides are in orbit! Here is a side-by side of the Alps
next to a small section of the American Rockies,
which is still nothing compared to Canada (yes there are people in that big empty area).
No offense, but true European rural doesn’t exist.
No offense, but true European rural doesn’t exist.
Bro, come to northern Sweden and say that again lol
Also if we’re talking about the European continent as a whole finland, the urals, and maybe the west coast of ireland depending on definitions.
Yeah, I just get a bit peeved cuz I live up here, lol!
If I drive 250km to my grandparents I will not see much of buildings and people.
Touche lol
Come to the most uninhabitable place on the continent for some real rural living!
Shit, that picture outside Edmonton is hardly even distant, there are a bunch of communities in northern Alberta and BC that don’t even have roads going to them because they’re too far away.
I hear there’s roads in the winter, lol.
Me -
Your infrastructure is shit
You -
Here, I will demonstrate how correct you are
😂
You were being an ignorant dick and I called you on it. It’s not my fault you can’t handle a few hours on the road.
No where in Europe is “remote.”
Come to the South West US where you can drive 100 miles in any direction and barely see another human.
You can easily drive 100 miles in northern Sweden and see nothing but trees lol
It’s a difference between definitions of “city” and “middle of nowhere” between the US and Europe. The US is a massive place. Part of the reason the US appears to have such a crappy infrastructure is that when, say, mobile carriers want to improve it to upgrade something to 5G, they have to do so for the entire country, with many US states having an area the size of whole European countries. Texas itself is the size of Germany. That is a much bigger undertaking than improving it for a single European country or even a block of countries like western or central Europe. Things are so spread out here that “remote” can mean REALLY remote in some areas. Distances between reasonably sized cities in the US can be much larger than in Europe, and the US has more people in those more rural areas than some think, especially in states in the middle of the country. Local ISPs for internet in those areas can be good depending on the area, but a lot of people in the really rural areas would still be better and more easily served by a service like Starlink.
https://www.wideopencountry.com/map-shows-countries-fit-inside-texas/
This is far more hilarious to see that a good number of European countries fit inside of Texas.
Sounds wonderful tbh
Today you learned that the majority of people don’t live in the middle of nowhere?
Of course they don’t, by definition, if a bunch of people lived there, it wouldn’t be the middle of nowhere.
Lmao you’re being a pedantic dick bc you know what they meant… and I’m cracking up enjoying everything about it
Yeah, Musk has gone insane, anyone can see that.
But Musk aside, LEO satellites are still really the only viable and economical solution to the problem of broadband in rural areas, and Starlink seems to work great.
Also, the objection that resulted in pulling this funding looks pretty bullshit. Several other broadband providers are getting these same funding deals for doing basically nothing.
Musk has gone insane
No, he hasn’t. He’s just a bog-standard capitalist doing bog-standard capitalist things.
Explicitly not the point of my post…
My partner’s family lives on a dirt road between a corn field and cow pasture… a full 1.5 hour drive from the nearest mid-sized city… they have gigabit fiber…
Not saying that their situation is currently typical, but id argue it is indeed a sign that good internet is slowly but surely coming available to everyone.
Don’t blame the people because the private sector doesn’t gain any money from this investment in this infrastructure.
That doesn’t make any sense. Taxpayer money was supposed to fix this over a decade ago.
Middle of nowhere between fields: I have 5g router and 300+mbps
If you’re pulling 5G you’re not remote.
Brother, we have wildly different definitions of “nowhere” if you get 5G. When I lived in a rural shithole in the US, I had to drive 100 miles to start picking up 5G signals (though that was just before the pandemic, so maybe 5G coverage has improved greatly in the past 3 years).
Closest town is 55km away
Shit man, I used to commute almost that exact distance each way. Anything under triple digits is practically in-town in many places.
Yeah me too, untill COVID and the digital acceleration to WFH
Guys, please be nice to Elon. He’s having a bad day, his attempted cover story to boost TSLA isn’t working, and he’s coming down.
That stock chart is nothing terrible. Sideways on the 6 months and the 5-year is pretty good. I don’t think he’s suffering.
My parents have starlink and I’m really impressed with it. It’s very reliable
My parents had it. Average was about 40mbps over a 60gb download, minimums were in the low 20s, and it topped out at around 80-100mbps. A fuck of a lot better than 10mbps down 750kbps up, their only other option. I hate Elon as much as the next guy, but starlink is awesome.
Really? Shit. I was planning to move to starlink but let me do some research.
I had Starlink too and it was definitely unreliable. It’s also absolutely atrocious in any kind of weather like heavy rain or snow.
It’s better than nothing for sure, but definitely look into it more, especially if you’ll be relying on it for work.
It’s also generally better than dsl.
It’s faster than my old fiber connection through Telus up here in Canadia and also means I can look at any hamlet with power as a viable place to live now. We are never down for more the 2 seconds a day.
Because it’s satellite!
Absolutely, but Musk specifically said weather wouldn’t be a problem like regular satellites, which was just not true from my experience.
Overall though, I just think people should be aware that it’s not a good replacement for if you already have access to other Internet services. I’ve seen people discuss how they want to ditch Comcast for it. It’s a lot more expensive and definitely not as consistent. Again, it totally has an audience and purpose, pros and cons.
DISH says the same crap about satellite TV. Physics doesn’t lie.
i imagine that’s a product of the technology and not so much the company. the problems with satellite internet are just physics. it’s probably stupid to go with something like this in an area that has fiber available.
I was shocked when he got a gov’t contract after he admitted to all that fuckery in Ukraine. Wtf is happening in gov’t???
trying to get another one of his boondoggles financed by Congress i see… nothing but charlatan under those robes…
musk is one of the richest man alive, why does he need subsidies to do his job??
clearly you’re not rich. the rich stay rich by spendng other people’s money.
this guy knows material dialectics
This isn’t really a great argument. Subsidies are there to promote the things we want to come to fruition. Want your people to have solar? Subsidies for putting one on your roof. You want more electric cars on the road even though more expensive? Subsidies.
You want a billionaire to help a new technology reach people he wouldn’t bother with? Subsidies.
So we do that by giving them even more fucking money, instead of taking it away when they do a shitty thing, like ruin our atmosphere with fossil fuels.
Aside from the bit of personal enjoyment I get from seeing Elon take an L… Starlink only meets the classification as “broadband internet” in optimal conditions. The average experience just plain doesn’t qualify and it is openly acknowledged that performance will get worse with more traffic. It may be better than nothing for some, but it is clearly not sustainable. The money would be better spent running lines because at least that would be consistent and long lasting even if it is more expensive.
Quite excited to see what some competition will do in this space (no pun intended) with Amazon’s upcoming deployment.
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That’s significantly less of a concern than assisting in elevating a few billion people out of poverty
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Quite excited to see what some competition will do in this space (no pun intended) with Amazon’s upcoming deployment.
You hate Musk, we get it. Now, try to stay on topic
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The concept is literally working right now.
Also, I’ve read the article. I’m not sure why you’re trying to make this chain about musk?
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