You may not like it, but this is what peak freight vehicle looks like
Fr though kei trucks are sexy as fuck
Freight? No.
You’d use a sprinter van for that.
I would get one if they weren’t all right hand drive :(
I’d get one if they were freeway legal everywhere
I dont like it, I love it
I had a supervisor that blew his entire OT and 401k on $90000 truck and proceeded to complain about how shit the gas mileage was.
Meanwhile I bet a prius will carry 99% of what they put in it
Oh, they would never put anything in it. That might scratch the bed.
My Subaru Forester with a roof rack hauls almost anything short of large furniture or a yard of gravel.
See that’s what gets me. You need a very specifically large load that is (in my experience) extremely rare. In the gas savings alone you could just rent a truck when you need to move gravel or large furniture and not scratch up your $90,000 truck.
It costs like $30 to rent a box truck from home depot to take a big load home. I can get a few sheets of plywood on my Outback with a couple ratchet straps and not going over 40 lol.
Hell a roof rack on my 20 year old 3 series and a ton of rope has moved sofas, plywood and pallets, and one memorable trip 5 bikes
The people I know with expensive trucks still get everything delivered anyway. There’s always some excuse why their super versatile amazingly useful truck isn’t quite the right tool for the job, but somehow it’s always the right tool to drive around town to their office job or the grocery store. Literally makes zero sense, ever.
Hitch and a trailer is how I deal with that with my Crosstrek.
I’ve been seriously considering getting a hitch and a light trailer. It would be more than sufficient for nearly everything we do, especially if it could haul a motorcycle when needed.
My coworker lives in a downtown apartment with a cramped parking garage and bought a full size pickup to drive 1.5 miles to the parking garage at our workplace to write code. I’m embarrassed for them and keep telling them to buy a bicycle
1.5 miles? Shit i’d just walk.
Seriously, that’s a 20-25 minute walk. Perfect, natural exercise opportunity completely wasted!
Not even worth taking the bicycle out.
What a douche nozzle. I have to drive two hours each day and fucking despise it. Would love to be able to walk.
Even a Honda fit would be better!
A Honda Fit would be marginally better. A bicycle would be vastly better.
I wouldn’t know, riding a bike around here would be a death sentence. Roadrage can often end in a drive-by in Oklahoma if the news is to be believed and drunk driving is a pretty common sight in the area I live. There’s also no bike lane, usually no sidewalks and long stretches of road without a crosswalk in sight.
Or you could choose chaos and badger him to get a Prius lol.
Nothing against Prius owners, they’re efficient and reliable cars.
Haven’t you’ve heard! Priuses are cool now. Who knew a major face lift and .5 more liters would change public opinions so much.
#Glovebox 😂
Priuses (Prii?) aren’t cool, the Citroen Ami is the new cool
As long as you’re in Europe. Those things could be useful in North America but I can’t see how they will ever get approved in Canada or in the US. I don’t know about micro cars in Mexico and their laws but in Canada, everything between a full fledged car and an e-bike is considered “too dangerous, unsafe, not serious, toy-like” and is generally forbidden to go on roads and/or bike paths.
For example, in Quebec, it’s illegal to use an e-bike under 18 years old without a scooter licence. So the Ami has no chance at all here, unfortunately.
If the Smart got approval, why can’t the Citroen Ami?
They are very different “vehicles”. The class which allows Ami to operate in most European countries does not exist in most North American jurisdictions. A Smart is classified as a car and is road legal but an Ami is considered a quadricycle and as such is usually not considered road legal in most of North America.
Where I live it’s not considered as any type of valid vehicle. If it sticks to quadricycle, the law is going to require pedals, limit it to 25 kph and a helmet for the passengers.
There are places in the US that have some “neighbourhood EV” laws that make these legal on local roads, but it’s far from being common.
So if you are successful in importing one, you will most likely only be able to use it on private land.
Also, no insurance company is going to want to insure it.
And, to top ot all, the dealer, Stellantis, is apparently much more interested in selling pick-ups to North Americans.
…don’t expect to get one through Canadian or USA Stellantis dealer networks. They are 100% obsessed on moving EV versions of Jeeps, RAM pick-ups, the new Airflow crossover and their ProMaster truck offerings.
sources:
https://citroenvie.com/the-ami-100-electric-isnt-coming-to-us-but-get-ready-for-sarit/
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/electric-citroen-ami-coming-us-cant-buy/
My Prius is not cool. It just saves me money.
Jesus. And I felt guilty for my commute only taking about 10 minutes down a highway. However, I didn’t have a choice because the only access to the industrial park where I worked was from that highway. I still felt bad about it.
This distance is perfect for an electric scooter, even basic Xiaomi M365 will do.
Why don’t you just let him enjoy what he wanted? If he wanted something else, he’d get something else?
The truck hate on lemmy is pretty cringe
Having a vehicle that emits more pollution, does more damage to roads, and is more likely to kill pedestrians is pretty fucking selfish and deserving of hate.
Selfish? Bro get a fucking grip.
The responsibility of pollution is not on individuals. The pollution from mega corps compared to the every day man is a staggering exponential difference.
More likely to kill pedestrians? All vehicles can kill pedestrians. How is this even a talking point you idiots parrot back and forth.
It’s also on individuals, our purchasing choices shape what corporations decide to make. if people only bought fuel efficient vehicles companies wouldn’t build these idiotic mega polluting trucks.
And trucks are vastly more dangerous for pedestrians than other vehicles. they have massive blind spots, and weight a shitton more. As trucks have kept getting bigger, pedestrian deaths have gone up, that’s why we bring it up.
It’s way more likely to kill pedestrians. Trucks and SUVs have terrible sight lines for pedestrians, especially children, and especially in front of the vehicle. They also are more damaging to pedestrians in an collision, and have much higher rates of injury and fatality than sedans, station wagons, and coupes. The X factor here is that a higher percentage of the less secure, less capable drivers buy larger vehicles to insulate themselves from other vehicles on the road, and they drive with that same mentality around pedestrian-rich areas.
Trucks and SUVs are terrible, and you should only buy one if you need one, otherwise you look like a fucking jackass.
My next vehicle purchase is going to be the largest truck I can find not requiring a CDL.
Make sure you grab some “I did that” Biden stickers to slap on gas pumps. Really lean in to that “I make poor decisions and blame the wrong person for the consequences” energy.
Why, why would I do that?
Because I disagree with you about vehicles you think I’m a MAGA dude? Get a grip.
Trucks are available for purchase in America. Americans love them. It is what it is. If you don’t like it, move or push for legislative change.
Truck owners sure as shit don’t care about your talking points and will buy another, and another, and another. Nobody’s going to be convinced by pedestrian safety statistics or mpg concerns.
Trucks are so deeply woven into America’s culture I think guns would be banned sooner.
It suits most of us Americans well! Big, fat, slow, and ugly but full of potential which most of us will never realize! Just the way God intended.
If the people downvoting you really want to make a difference they should:
Stop using leaf bowers: https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/features/emissions-test-car-vs-truck-vs-leaf-blower.html
Stop eating food not home grown: https://coolclimate.org/blog-cars-coal-cows-consumption
Instead of judging trucks: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=alts&year=2023&vtype=Diesel&srchtyp=yearAfv&pageno=1
And not little timmy for owning that v8 mustang: https://www.osvehicle.com/the-pros-and-cons-of-sports-cars-are-they-bad-for-the-environment/
Stop using leaf bowers
I don’t.
Stop eating food not home grown
I don’t have the room or the skills to grow enough food to feed my family of three by myself.
Eat the rich
Sure, how do you propose I go about doing that?
Instead of judging trucks
Nah, I’ll still judge people who buy giant gas guzzling trucks and don’t use them for hauling things all the time.
And not little timmy for owning that v8 mustang
Guess what? I judge him too! Believe it or not, you can judge multiple types of vehicles that people own!
I am that uncle. I’m just doing what I have to to survive.
If I could buy a new car I would. I’d get an electric, self-driving pleasure machine, but no way I can afford it.
Maybe when this thing breaks down (it’s already 15 yrs old).
No problem with that. I think the meme is referring to people who spent 100k on outlandishly large and glitzy trucks to spend 100% of their lives on paved suburban streets.
Complete with lift kit doing 98 on the freeway
Dont forget to tailgate then hang next to the car you were tailgating for a few moments before flying past you just to end up at the same stop light down the road.
All while never looking up from the phone.
I’m a school bus driver and many of my fellow drivers talk or surf on their phones while driving fucking kids around. It’s illegal and every moment on our buses is recorded (audio and video) but somehow nothing is said or done about this by the people in charge.
There’s likely already a shortage of drivers and they can’t get more because they don’t pay enough. Blow the whistle. It’ll end up getting you paid more if you can stay secret. If not, they’ll fire you and you can sue and get paid A LOT more.
I imagine they’ll do something once a bus full of kids drives into a river or off a bridge.
“Bro you won’t believe this idiot on the highway who wouldn’t get out of the way of my truck”
My sister in-law? Broke as fuck, came across a windfall from an accident that never came up before, spent more than a third of it on… a fucking F-150 platinum. Still deep in debt, living in low income housing, doesn’t have a job.
She won’t have a truck soon, either.
They don’t get it. They won’t get it, until they get it.
Never gonna get it, never gonna get it.
Never gonna get it… WOOT woot whoot woouhoouhoo.
This is completely understandable. The solution isn’t another car, it’s better city planning and public transit.
You could switch to a small cheap sedan
Switching costs money. From what he said money might be tight. I buy and sell my own vehicles. It is a job. Most prefer to give up a few grand to not have to do it (you never get paid full market value on a trade in). Even if someone decided to do it themselves they run the risk of losing big time if they’re inexperienced. Even though I’ve been doing it for years even I lose on some of these. When I lose, it’s usually close to the cost of the vehicle. I can afford that and in the end I average out really well.But the majority of people can’t do that. I get all the hate new big trucks get and I agree. As someone who works in construction I wish station wagons would make a come back. But it’s really easy to say “just do x y or z” it’s not so easy to do.
I get your feeling. It’s a shame the market is built so that people buy more and more useless guga-trucks while most people would do perfectly well with a small family car.
A motorcycle is cheap, fuel-efficient, and fun.
And totally not safe for everyday driving to me. Even if the biker himself is a good one ,dumbass right next to him might crush him any second
Yeah even in just local traffic, your body really doesn’t do well against a jarring 30mph throw or tons of solid steel pressing up against you. I’ve thought about buying a cheap motorcycle to go to the stores near me for awhile (Yes, I’m in the US. Yes, there’s no public transportation. Yes, I own a car) but honestly seeing drivers around me just driving my car once a week makes me not want to do it
My brother was riding his motorbike when a car turned across his path having not seen him, he was doing 30mph and was launched off the bike, flew over the car, and landed directly on his elbow.
9 hours of surgery rebuilding his arm and now it’s half metal and has about 30-45 degrees of movement. There was serious talk about amputation early on so he kinda got lucky (also lucky to land on an arm rather than his head obviously!)
Motorbikes may be fun and economical but fuck driving them around other cars, eventually you’ll run into a bad driver and if you’re unlucky that could be the end for you.
I have one. It also sucks to ride for an hour, you’re eaither sweating, freezing or some other form of uncomfortable.
I’d get an electric, self-driving pleasure machine, but no way I can afford it.
Just get a bicycle already! Thinking your only other option is an “electric, self-driving pleasure machine” is such a false dichotomy.
With the way most cities are designed, a bicycle is not a safe option for day to day transportation for most people.
Or get yourself a nice plug-in hybrid… E-bike
Yeah, I’m not going to spend 6 hours driving a bicycle to work and back.
I got a used bolt for ~12k recently. It’s definitely more than a gas gar, but not astronomically more.
20,000 miles??? Good god get a closer job
I hate having to almost circumnavigate the Earth for my commute!
The job is only a few kms away, the boss just likes taking the scenic route
I’m not getting the major picture here…
I feel like a pretty good vehicle for a lot of people like that who need a truck sometimes and don’t want a second vehicle could be one of the new small diesel trucks, like the ram ecodiesel. 30mpg is more than even most compact SUVs get, it’s still a truck for people that like that, and it can haul/tow more than a compact suv as well.
A big problem with 2 vehicles instead of 1 is often that insurance costs so much more, even if you’re driving the same number of miles as when you had 1 vehicle. Registration fees too.
one of the new small diesel trucks
There is no such thing.
This is what a small diesel truck looks like:
Nothing like it is made anymore, at least not for the US market.
Yeah, it would be nice if those were still made.
A Ram EcoDiesel was still a full sized truck, the Maverick is the logical option, hopefully they release an AWD hybrid version…
I bought the Santa Cruz, and I love it. 28mpg city and 35 highway, and I can still pull 3500lb.
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It’s rated at 22 city 26 hwy, do you really get that much?
The super short bed looks a little less than useful but I do like the idea of an actually small truck because every truck these days is monstrosly large.
Yup, but it mostly depends on the road inclination. If there’s a lot of uphill it’s more like 26/30.
And the bed is pretty useful, especially with the tourneau cover you can get. I did end up getting a bed extender to let me carry stuff like plywood sheets.
How’s the legroom in the second row? I love the aesthetic of the Santa Cruz and that it’s not an obnoxiously large truck while still capable of hauling and towing stuff. I did notice that the space inside looks pretty tight.
It’s really not bad. I’ve had people sit behind me (6’3") comfortably. It’s actually the first vehicle I’ve driven where I had to scoot the seat up a bit.
I’m pretty sure it’s just the Tuscon with a truck bed instead of a trunk.
Honestly, a trailer is sufficient.
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I keep my paid off subie around, but I do like driving the camp converted van around because I can just sit and relax without having to go all the way home.
Awesome, sounds like fun! I love seeing those
I’m getting old and am a whitewater kayaker. You have to go where the water is which means a lot of long road trips and long weekends. Setting up and tearing down camp constantly wears you down. Now I pull in. Sleep. Can drive part way and sleep at a truck stop. Much nicer. Mine has the bed over the garage so bikes and snowboards can just live there all the time too. Most creek and freestyle boats fit inside too until I get around to putting the racks on. Then I’ll also have an awning and solar.
Nice username :P
I’m guessing the title is hyperbole but it’s still kinda ridiculous even for hyperbole lol.
Nope… we were chatting and I was saying it’s nuts that 80$ to fill my suv… He then responded its 80$ for him to go to work and back… So he may be exaggerating but I’m just passing the message…
Bragging about how bad their gas mileage seems like the redneck’s version of inserting vacation and cruise stories into conversations
Your assumption is true.
He might wanna see a mechanic because a vehicle, even a truck, should only cost 80 bucks for a trip like that if it’s leaking gas the whole way.
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Unfortunately, I see it pretty much everywhere.
I can’t afford 3 cars.
You can rent a pickup for something like $20/day as needed. Or, just keep an old junker pickup around. But, renting as needed would be the cheapest option for most people.
$80
20km
🤔
Canada?
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/mapswithoutNewZealand
They didn’t say dollarydoos
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Everyone forgets the maintenance and vehicle costs. Take the gas, multiple it by 3 to 5x, that’s the rough cost.
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RIP your timing belt, accessory belt, shocks, tires, battery, brake pads, rotors, etc. And vehicle costs, don’t forget that.
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Damn, cars are dump. And expensive too.
What fucking hell hole do you live that it costs $80 to drive 12 miles? At $10 USD a gallon that’s like 1 mpg.
at the current price of gasoline in the Netherlands (about 7,50 per gallon) it’s just a inefficient truck.
Naw, it’s just a bullshit number. A large truck driven in poor conditions for fuel efficiency will still get 12-13mpg.
No. It’s made up fantasy land propaganda that gets eaten up. This is 5th grade math and could be easily identified as bullshit with a passing glance.
Lemmy/Fediverse comment sections are pretty bad about making up personality traits/stereotyping people who do things they disagree with. This thread is wild.
I miss my S-10. You could crawl in the engine bay. 8 foot bed. Manual transmission. I know those size trucks aren’t coming back anytime soon or probably ever.
fuck cars
Yeah, that is a kink of some.
That would explain truck nuts
Wow, I have never seen something like that in the wild, now I’m warned, thanks.
