• @TheBananaKing@lemmy.world
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    Introduce Shakespeare to D&D, and encourage him to popularize it.

    Not only would the campaigns he ran be amazing, but goooodlord imagine the subversive effect it would have socially. Unpinning good/evil from lawful/chaotic in the public perception that early on would be a Big Deal; bringing the idea of consumer-generated content would shift attitudes to art and literature away from a purely top-down concept, and the resulting rise of Victorian fan-fiction would be so amazingly terrible it would rip its own hole in the spacetime continuum.

  • @MJBrune@beehaw.org
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    232 years ago

    force Florida to count the ballots in 2000 in favor of Al Gore. People want to talk about stolen elections? They literally wouldn’t count all the ballots because of a technology flaw.

    • DanielOP
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      102 years ago

      It’s Florida how do you expect to be able to force them to do anything?

      • Otter
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        I’m dumb, thought it was about stealing something from the past to the present. So these answers do fit the prompt


        My first reaction was “bring a T-Rex to the year 2000 and threaten them with it”. Ended up pestering AI till it agreed to answer a similar question, here’s a summary of those answers:

        Advanced Surveillance Technology: Bringing back highly advanced surveillance technology from a more technologically developed era could be a game-changer.

        This one makes some sense. You go back to 1999 (or future if possible) and bring equipment that can detect and prove the fact beyond reasonable doubt. Enough to cause the count.

        Influential Evidence from the Future: Bringing back concrete evidence from the future, such as detailed records of the government’s planned election fraud, could be used to expose and prevent these actions. This could include documents, videos, or other irrefutable proof of planned malpractices in the election.

        Now this one goes against the prompt somewhat, but it would be the most effective. Although the butterfly effects from proving time travel may cause new issues…

  • @imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
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    I’d save RFK and give him a full two-term presidency. Just because I’ve always wondered how much a difference it would have made in the course of American history. It definitely seems like things took a severe turn for the worse in the late 60s and the American political system has never recovered.

    I personally believe there were conspiracies to assassinate both him and JFK because they were not susceptible to being controlled by their donors or political mentors, as is the case with the vast majority of politicians. They were rogue elements with a strong potential to disrupt the status quo (i.e. gravy train) for the rest of the oligarchy, so they got taken out.

  • @JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz
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    142 years ago

    A highschool physics book translated in ancient Greek/linear B to mass copy and distribute to everyone. Maybe it’ll give the advantage to stop the Bronze Age Collapse.

    • JollyRoberts
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      22 years ago

      @JeffKerman1999 bring some plans for the printing press and some plans to mass produce paper too. Back in the ancient times one sheet of paper was about $30 in todays money. A whole book would be the equivalant of tens of thousands of dollars.

      @hai

      • @tetris11@lemmy.ml
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        Without digisation possibilities, limited oil usage, and an ever-increasing demand for paraphanalia, there will be no trees left.

  • MedicsOfAnarchy
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    142 years ago

    Introduce radio to the Romans. They had the metallurgy to create coils. Even a simple Morse code system would easily keep their empire going. Probably end up like that Star Trek TOS where Centurions are carrying sub-machine guns, though. If want to read what a great SF writer did with this (guy from 1938 ends up in 535AD), read “Lest Darkness Fall”

  • BananaTrifleViolin
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    122 years ago

    I’d go back and prevent the 11th Sept attacks.

    The world would be a different place because so much happened as a knock on of that but at the same time it’s hard to imagine what the world would be like. Probably very similar but also different in substantial ways.

    Like obvious things like no war in Iraq or Afghanistan (at least not those wars), and less obvious things like how the attacks have reshaped liberal democracies like the US and Europe (for the worse imo), and how they empowered right wing politics in many countries (also bad imo).

      • @imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
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        22 years ago

        The TSA is just a federal jobs program. They don’t actually provide any value; it’s been demonstrated that they miss the vast majority of contraband. The most notable function of the TSA is the temporary imposition of an authoritarian-esque environment of suspicion and control on innocent civilians, reminding us to follow the rules, or else.

    • TheMurphy
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      72 years ago

      Next time you want to prevent 9/11, you probably have to prevent all the reasons they had to hate us.

      From ChatGPT-4:

      The history of Western involvement in the Middle East before the September 11, 2001 attacks is extensive and complex, involving a range of diplomatic, economic, military, and political actions. Some key instances include:

      1. Sykes-Picot Agreement (1916): A secret agreement between Britain and France, with assent from Russia and Italy, to divide the Ottoman Empire’s territories in the Middle East after World War I.

      2. Balfour Declaration (1917): The British government expressed support for a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine, which was then part of the Ottoman Empire.

      3. Creation of Modern Middle Eastern States: After World War I, Western powers, particularly Britain and France, were instrumental in redrawing the borders in the Middle East, leading to the creation of many modern states.

      4. Iranian Coup d’état (1953): The CIA, with British support, orchestrated a coup to overthrow Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh and strengthen the monarchical rule of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.

      5. Suez Crisis (1956): France, the UK, and Israel invaded Egypt in response to Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser’s nationalization of the Suez Canal.

      6. Support for Various Regimes: Western countries, especially the United States, supported various regimes in the Middle East, some of which were authoritarian, for strategic and economic interests, particularly during the Cold War.

      7. Lebanese Civil War (1975-1990): The U.S. and other Western countries were involved in various capacities during the Lebanese Civil War.

      8. Soviet-Afghan War (1979-1989): The U.S. and its allies supported Afghan mujahideen in their fight against the Soviet occupation.

      9. First Gulf War (1990-1991): A U.S.-led coalition expelled Iraqi forces from Kuwait. This war also led to the stationing of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, which was one of the grievances cited by Osama bin Laden.

      10. Sanctions against Iraq: Following the Gulf War, the United Nations, with strong U.S. and UK backing, imposed sanctions on Iraq that had significant humanitarian impacts.

      11. Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: The U.S. and other Western countries have been deeply involved in this conflict, often perceived as being biased towards Israel.

      12. Various Military Bases and Operations: The U.S. and its allies have maintained a military presence in various parts of the Middle East for strategic reasons.

      This list is not exhaustive and simplifies a complex history. Each of these events has a nuanced background, and their impacts are still felt in the region’s contemporary politics.

  • Square Singer
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    102 years ago

    Take the current highest-yield nuclear bomb and destroy England right before the begin of their collonial era.

    Generally speaking, I believe removing a global superpower just before they do their world-changing thing is probably going to have the biggest effect on the timeline.

    • Devi
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      62 years ago

      Everyone was building empires at the time and fighting over who got what. All that nuking England would do is to mean France, the netherlands, germany, spain etc would get more bits

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        Of course it wouldn’t stop colonialization, but it would change the future quite a lot.

        • No English-speaking superpowers/English as lingua franca
        • No Commonwealth
        • No wide-spread anglo common law based legal systems
        • Superpowers/alliances would be totally mixed up up to now.
        • China could have developed totally different due to them not constantly losing against the English.
        • No colonialization of the Welsh, Scots, Irish by the English

        I think that should shake up the timeline quite a bit.

        • Devi
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          42 years ago

          No, you’d just have the exact same thing but with another nationality. France had like half of Africa so they’d definitely be bigger.

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            And wouldn’t that completely shift worldwide powerbalanes for centuries to come?

            For example, would WW2 have happened if France had been a global superpower instead of a pushover?

            Would the american revolution have happened with another colonial ruler?

            Without that example, would the french revolution have happened?

            Without both revolutions, would democracy be a thing by now, or would we still have totalitarian monarchies?

            You know the butterfly effect? It’s the same except we aren’t killing a butterfly but instead one of the superpower nations of that time.

            • Devi
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              France was never a pushover. The idea that being invaded by a bigger stronger army was their fault is weird and one I’ve only heard in the US.

              Most countries that are colonies eventually seek independence, including most that France had.

    • @tetris11@lemmy.ml
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      It would only be a deterrent for empire building if there’s a pattern (probably 3 or 4 similar events), otherwise people would consider it a random hateful act of god, of which there are many, and of which have been interpreted many different ways

      • Square Singer
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        I was focussing on changing the timeline, not on deterring nations from doing something. Without English colonializers, there would have certainly been other colonizers, but e.g. the whole China situation would have likely been very different. There would not be a dominant anglo culture right now. No English-speaking USA, no English-speaking Australia, no large countries with an anglo common law-based legal system.

        It would change the timeline quite a bit.

  • @pixelscript@lemmy.ml
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    92 years ago

    I often wonder how people would react if you showed up to a concert hall in, say, classical music era Europe or something and performed modern music. Assuming you could kit it to provide infrastructure for whatever your performance required, and the acoustics of the venue were idealized.

    Would attendees hate it? Would the unfamiliar musical styles be repulsive to them? Would the sounds and textures of modern instrumentation like electric guitar and synthesizer upset or even frighten them? Or would they find something to appreciate about it? Would the music be copied and spread, becoming a time worn classic folk tune in an alternate future? Or would it be rebuked and suppressed, condemned for all time as evil influence? Which genres would have the best acceptance chances in which cultures, and which eras?

    In my mind in particular, I think about this with the niche realm of video game soundtracks. If not just the music played as-is through some playback device (which would probably be rather boring, but who knows, maybe the novelty of recorded music alone would be fascinating enough) then perhaps arranged for live performance, like the orchestral performance of Undertale, or the Sinnohvation big band album. Or, of course, if the soundtrack was itself a recorded live performance, just perform it. These collections of compositions often outline rich adventures, communicated by a wide range of musical styles. I wonder if they are strong enough to stand alone, and if audiences would respond to them without the context that they were written to accompany.

    Failing live performance (which would be trickier than one would think–to sound good, live music has to be written with its venue in mind, and I’d assume most modern music would sound like garbage when performed in victorian era concert halls or ancient ampitheaters), I’d also consider putting them to vinyl LPs and dumping them in old record shops in any era that had phonograph or turntable technology and see if they get discovered.

    Why not just send back the video games themselves? I dunno. I guess I’m less interested in wowing them with futuristic technology and more interested in how they’d react to something they already have (music), but in a strange, new context.

    • @mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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      The temptation would be to play “Raining Blood” and get extremely excommunicated. “South of Heaven” you could argue is a musical Hieronymus Bosch painting. “Disciple,” less so. For apostasy that cheeky locals could reproduce on a lute, do “The God That Failed.”

      Probably the least riot-inducing song that’d still leave the aristocracy struggling to deal with the experience is Anamanaguchi’s “Endless Fantasy.” To people intimately familiar with wind and string instruments, and for a song that Jackson Parodi managed to decently reproduce on a goddamn accordion, it’s juuust enough to leave everyone wondering how the hell humans made those noises. It’s also obscenely energetic. Nevermind concert halls, play this at cafe that’s just imported tobacco and watch some men in hosiery get off their asses. All of that goes double for “Prom Night.” None of these people have ever heard a square wave.

      Somewhere in-between, I’d suggest any Flaming Lips album. At War With The Mystics might go over quite well, at first.

  • @mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    Here’s a darkly hilarious one, because you could do it by accident: give smallpox to the native Americans a few hundred years early. Right around 1000 AD, show up to shake hands and teach metallurgy or whatever, maybe planning to jump-start their resistance to colonization… and their resistance to slaughterhouse-borne diseases, the hard way.

    This would of course completely fuck up their population numbers, much the same as would happen in Europe in the 1300s. But by the time Columbus showed up to be the absolute worst person who could possibly discover a new continent, they’d be largely recovered, and they’d get to trade whole new strains with the seasick lemon-sucking weirdos who kept asking where the spices were. The returning ships would offer tomatoes and potatoes and another Black Death. Hopefully preventing Malthus from being such an influential bastard, and causing the first engineered famine in Ireland, whose population did not recover from the potato famine until this century.

    New England colonies would presumably still take hold, but wouldn’t steamroll all the way to the west coast. Hopefully they’d be limited and northern enough that slavery is less prevalent, less absolute, and - ironically - still a matter of trade. Because what ended the triangle trade to America was the treatment of African captives as livestock to be bred. The politics of this alternate timeline would be hilariously complex compared to now, and probably result in more and stranger wars than we can imagine, but there would be so many averted times where atrocities happened, effectively unopposed.

    • @Wojwo@lemmy.ml
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      Just take them a couple horses and some cattle. That would mess with the Europeans when they show up.

  • @tjarod11@lemmy.world
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    62 years ago

    I’d swap some of the first clay documents around until I ended up with a timeline where we live modern life with a gift economy rather than a money economy. We’d all have a lot more options to pay off our debt rather than the streamlined ridgid money system.

  • @LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
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    62 years ago

    You wanna fuck up the timeline? Somehow mess something up so plastic was never, and never will be invented. That would change sooooo many things.

    • @MrAlternateTape@lemm.ee
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      It would also stop much of the progress humanity made. Unfortunately, plastic is pretty much the cheapest and easiest solution for a lot of problems, specifically for packaging food and stuff like that.

      You may very well travel back to a world that no longer can build that time machine.