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“You can experience our content better in the app!”
My brother in Christ, you made the website…
Of course they did. You can collect more data by forcing the user to create an account and circumvent most ad blocks in an app though! What incentive do they have to making a functioning site?!
Use a VPN like Mullvad that has an ad block built in. It doesn’t allow ads to load in any apps, it’s really nice. I’m sure they can still collect all kinds of data but at least the ads are taken care of.
Yea that’s what I do. Majority of people though are not doing that and they know it.
People who use the app can get push notifications! And you can’t usually block ads in the app.
Throw one of those bottom-corner “How can I help?” pop ups that makes the tab flash and constantly change the text in there too.
And “Install our app!”. And those glorious auto-play videos blocking your entire view.
With a fake notification dot
And a poorly-made chatbot answering (with slow loading times!) bonus points if you can’t even get to talk to a human after 20 messages of “that’s not what I wanted” and “let me talk with a bone-and-flesh humanoid”
Netbrain has one that makes a sound. Annoying when you tuck their page in a tab. No site should throw sound out like that.
Those make me irrationally angry.
I think it’s pretty rational; if it was a person being that obnoxious they would be missing teeth from the number of times they got punched in the face.
I close the tab at “disable your adblocker”
Was raised in an age where where you needed firewalls, antiviruses, spam blocks and ad blocks, Ect to surf the web safety.
Now companies are doing everything they can to make sure you disable all it to have the privilege of using their website.
Antiviruses were mostly for a false sense of security. They only stop the most basic attacks.
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And the “give us feedback, your opinion is valuable” pop up after the page has been scrolled one pixel.
People living in EU. You guys are lucky. These cookie banners and stuff behave differently there because EU forces the reject all button
Every other website i visit has a different tactic of hiding their reject button.
They will even give a second pop up leaving you unable to use the website in hopes of you clicking accept anyway.
Consent-o-matic
Install once, go to a website, wait a few seconds, ans it rejects all those 1273 “partners” for you, together with clicking every hidden “reject” button, so you don’t have to
The EU does definitely not have an easy reject all button…it’s always a minefield to work out how to disable them. Most take over 30-60 seconds to find out how to disable everything
This can help on a lot of websites: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/
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That doesn’t seem to be true. A lot of German publishers do not allow you to proceed without giving consent to cookies and profiling for targeted advertising. They consider this legal because they offer you the alternative of “opting out” by signing up for a paid subscription.
Not in my experience. The reject all button is usually hidden behind the review your choices button. It’s fucking bullshit. Accept all is always visible tho.
If I block cookie banners, does that mean I reject cookies because I didn’t consent? Because if that’s the case, I’m gonna just start blocking them.
Consent-o-matic addon for browser helps a lot to auto-reject cookies. Do recommend!
Ah, I didn’t know this one. Will definitely check. Thanks a lot!
The EU does force the reject all button, however companies and websites often don’t care about the law; some newspaper in my country straight up ask for a subscription to let you have the privilege of disabling cookies on their ad-ridden dying websites, and many more don’t have a “reject all” button.
I try to report some of them but who knows if it does something.
Plus from personal experience; when you setup a GDPR button through Google, by default there is no “reject all” button. Or the equally mandatory “x” to close the popup, thus rejecting cookies. You need to tick a box to enable them.
How do you report them?
I report them locally to the Privacy Guarantor(Italy) but I believe this is the EU’s page on the topic: https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/our-role-supervisor/complaints_en
In 204x will be like
> visit site
> Popup: “We’d like to introduce you to our own Terms of Service.”
> Popup: "And also these random terms regarding global rights
> Popup: “And minorities”
> Popup: “And countries who need YOUR help!”
> Popup: “No really, we really mean it.”
> Popup: “And also regarding telemetry”
> Popup: “And on how we will fetch private/sensitive about you without your concern.”
> Popup: “Also some things we’ve got from third parties about you”
> Popup: “Oh yeah! Would you like to buy these random stuff we think its fitting for YOU?”
etc.
By that time the websites will use LLMs to weave all that shit into the articles you read. Perfecting the method of ever so slowly conditioning you after the vision of some
coked up marketing execmarketing algorithm’s personalised hellhole, based on your very private and personal desires.
The average user will read about yet another school shooting and leave the article wishing for a delicious and refreshing coke to wash down the bad taste in their mouth, like only real coca cola can, which is now improved in flavour and available in a refrigeration section near your habitat. Because when the world let’s you down, coca cola will pick you up!
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All praise Firefox reader view!
It’s working less and less though. You can’t do this on websites like Wall Street Journal or Bloomberg because the article doesn’t actually load more than the first paragraph without being subscribed.
That’s why i first do https://archive.md/ then then readerview hehe
https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-firefox-clean
You can use an add-on like this that will set your browser’s user agent to look like a bot. They allow Google to read websites for indexing, but not you humble user.
Instant podcast
Yes, but imagine what we had to deal with during the 90s dot-com boom before someone created a pop-up blocker. It was absolutely hellish.
I get why soulless corporations do this, but why do regular folks choose to publish their content on Medium, Substack, Devto, etc. when this is the shitty UX they’ll be forcing on their readers.
Oh man, Medium sucks so much.
Speaking of technical stuff… same criticism go towards Microsoft GitHub. Unnecessary social features, search doesn’t work if you’re not authenticated, can’t participate without an account, stuffed with upsells (with the latest being an ad for Microsoft GitHub copilot inside the code view), where the Copilot product is sold back to the users who worked (often for free) to create the code to train it, pushes to use Sponsors so Microsoft can take their cut of donations, custom proprietary Markdown fork that isn’t compatible with other platforms …and to top it off, the pull request model straight-up doesn’t scale for a lot of projects but it’s the only option unless the maintainers consciously decide to host another tool or mailing list outside the Microsoft GitHub forge which defeats the point of even using the code forge product.
Because regular folks can’t or won’t host their own website
There are options outside the ones with heavy marketing departments to host writing. There was a time when hosting your own website was easy/normal. It still is easy (tho requirements like TLS certificates & fail2ban have raised some barrier to entry) & there are tools that automate the process now more than then, but there is an intimidation factor that really needs to be knocked down. The only other barrier has been folks living in places where symmetric internet isn’t the norm & you are expected to be a consumer & not a producer (this also needs to be fixed since it doesn’t cost more to send bits in the other direction).
A friend of mine uses medium, do you perhaps know a good alternative?
Self-host a static build system (Soupault is my preferred tool for this). If no to self-hosting, static hosting can be found cheap or ‘free’ in many spaces.
If building static files is too complicated, or more social features are desired WriteFreely & Plume operate on the fediverse (like Lemmy) or something like Movim (XMPP powered) can host anything from blogs video conferencing with other social features. I hear some folks like Bear, but I have no experience with it. They all have the advantage of being self-hostable too (but be warned, all of these listed source code is being hosted on the proprietary Microsoft GitHub which will require an account & agreeing to their ToS to interact with & any source code contributions will be fed through Microsoft GitHub’s Copilot AI models to be sold back at developers).
More patience than me. I don’t make it past Frame 2 unless I can keep scrolling, or there’s a ‘Reject All’ button. If anything else pops up, too many ads in the scroll, or paragraph three still says fuck all, I’m out
I always just reject cookies but if they start whining about adblock I’m out (apparently even when it’s YouTube)
I was trying to read an article the other day and they had a reject all cookies button. When this is an option I always use it but this one redirected me to a page that told me they won’t let me view their articles if I don’t let them track me. It went on to talk about some bullshit sob story about how it’s the only way they can be profitable and that they pinky promise to be responsible with the data collected.
lmao it’s funny how pathetic they will get
Healthline (or one of their sites with a different name)?
Haha, spot on. I guess you’ve encountered this too?
Yep. I don’t even think it’s legal. I’m an EU citizen and with the GDPR I should be able to browse the damn thing without cookies…
I would make it till frame 3 then bail, I’m not about to turn the blocker off
Newsletters and notifications – two things I have never, ever once allowed.
STOP ASKING
allow thisshittywebsite.com to see your location?
Nice try, Jareth
Now you can add:
- disable ad blocker to continue
- set your tracking preference that we’ll forget next visit, but you can’t read until you click it, ok?
- a video clip with ads playing in banner on top, which plays audio without your permission - then pops up the window just below as you scroll, blocking half the text
Ive been doing this dance for 30 years. From pop under popup windows in the 90s, adobe flash ads, Java script… and the list just keeps going. I have never bought something, from a web advert that was obnoxious. Google was the only place I willingly allowed ads back in early 2000s; that simple text box on the right with almost relevant adverts to my search. I bought from one of those, once.
“java script”
There were a few years without any popups at all. This directly caused the 2008 recession due to people not receiving newsletters.
