• Tomatoes [they/them]
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      Yep, the worst kind of story. “Be careful what you wish for, because you might get fine print.”

      Main characters: make wish Monkey’s Paw: gives wish and something else Main characters: Oh, the problem was me wanting the reasonable thing, not that I trusted a really shady entity in asking for it! Me: May I leave this planet now?

  • @Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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    I’d get a team of the best lawyers I could find to sit down with the genie and me to hash out a lengthy contract devoiding any intentional curse and put in a hefty monetary incentive for the lawyers to get it right, as well as punishment clauses for breaking it, then wish that the genie had to unwaveringly abide by that contract. That way, if he makes me suffer he has to suffer too or redo my request to my satisfaction.

    Then I’d probably write in a steady, better than average and reasonably liveable income without having to work for it for the rest of my natural life.

    Pretty sure I saw this concept in an early episode of fairly odd parents.

    • @ramble81@lemm.ee
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      Genies are not considered humans and thus cannot enter into a legal agreement. Courts find your contract null and void and the Genie still gets always with screwing up your wish.

      • @Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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        If my wish is for the genie to abide by the contract, then the thing holding him accountable is his own magic, not a human or court. The lawyers aren’t there to follow the law, they’re there to see that the contract is logistically sound.

        If a genie cannot be beholden to his own magic, then there’s really no point in expecting any kind of wish to be free of a curse anyway because he’s just going to do whatever he wants regardless of what you wish for.

        • @ramble81@lemm.ee
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          because he’s just going to do whatever he wants regardless of what you wish for.

          ding, ding ding and there in lies the inherent issue with genies. People only think they’re doing what you wish. Their goal is to creatively screw you over.

          • @Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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            I mean sure, but assuming that he doesn’t have to abide by the wish in question in any way pretty much voids the point of this entire post right?

            At this point in the argument, on your logic, the post itself might as well be “Make a wish, it doesn’t matter what. A malevolent genie is going to arbitrarily screw you”

            So then what’s the point?

            • @Ambatukam@lemmy.world
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              This is a fascinating world building question. Genies are supposed to be magical, extremely powerful beings, but they only become interesting when bound by rules - either set by the limitations of the world, or of their magic.

              A “fuck you I do what I want” genie isn’t interesting because there’s nothing to figure out in the context of the world the genie inhabits. And that world’s context and structure ultimately dictates what makes sense to an audience, and what seems jarring or out of place.

              The way a genie fulfills wishes and how it tries to worm out of it can tell you much of the fictional world it inhabits!

              • @Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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                This is exactly my point. The genie, and by extension this post, isn’t interesting unless the genie is bound by his own magic somehow. So why assume he is not?

    • @hansl@lemmy.world
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      I don’t know why people wish for money rather than immortality. Compounding interests baby!

      • @Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee
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        Immortality has its own set of complications. Like seeing everyone you love die. Out living the earth, solar system. Being stuck for eternity in the heat death of the universe. I mean, I guess a longer life but not immortal might be desirable. Personally, my only wish would be to live comfortably.

    • @MJBrune@beehaw.org
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      there is no intentional curse but making you immortal is what the average human wishes for. Genie argues that it’s truly a bonus. You live a normal natural life, but instead of dying, you keep living. The money stops, and you live forever. Having to return to work after not working your entire life.

  • @Agent641@lemmy.world
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    Whatever bad thing happens to me, the same will happen to the genie twice.

    I just hope he’s not a masochist.

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      Considering the high probability the djinn has spent centuries locked inside a small vessel, completely alone, the chances roll towards harboring sadistic wishes of revenge.

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      I see at least three catches here, and all of them taken from the basic guide

      • Good doesn’t mean “humane”.

      • Lawful doesn’t mean “thoughtful”.

      A demon that follows an moral code of conduct that is immoral by our standards is still canonically lawlful good by theirs. The nature of a fervorous Paladin is a matter of perspective.

      • Lawful nor Good mean “non-violent”.

      I don’t need to explain this part. A Paladin is… Sometimes less a matter of perspective.

      As an example, in the Movie Rabbit Proof Fence, the villain is a British Guy who falls, by his perspective, Lawfully Good. For reference, the movie starts with him doing a presentation on Eugenics and how he can save the “aboriginal people” through race mixing. Him mandating the two girls kidnapped from their village was entirely lawful. He really thinks he’s doing good and he does not at any point play dirty with those close to him to get what he wants. His biggest issue was being born in the wrong place, at the wrong time with the wrong people, with the wrong amount of scrupulosity.

      I don’t know how, but you probably did more damage here than even some other more aggressive responses. I think you just indirectly turned every government inherently authoritarian, albeit with society still functional. Because the lawmakers everywhere will catch on to how the cops function, and any semblance of progressive thought would soon stop developing.

  • @inspxtr@lemmy.world
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    I wish for a new genie that grants wishes successfully but never tries or succeeds in cursing my wishes.

    • CaptainBasculin
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      112 years ago

      Granted. You didn’t specify where, so it exists somewhere within the universe.

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    I wish for all of the intentions I have which will positively affect me and others will come to fruition without effort.

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        Strangely I’ve had this shower thought a lot. I’ve mulled over how I would make my one wish to a genie many times. Which is pretty dumb when I think about it. I could have been reading shampoo bottles!

        • @tetris11@lemmy.mlOP
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          Same. I think that the best thing one can wish for is a way to learn things you want to learn as fast as you want to learn it, whether that thing be knowledge, or a skill, or a power (supernatural or not), with the immediate option to unlearn that thing, should any ill effects or undesirable outcomes occur.

          That way, your potential is essentially infinite, but not ludicrously so such that the world gets boring, and that any changes are not sudden or dramatic.

  • rautapekoni
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    Ok so I wish for the worst curse the genie can dish out and then what?

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    I don’t wish for anything right away. I bring that damn lamp to the best lawyer I can find and have him draft up a bulletproof wish that goes to extreme lengths to specify exactly what I want and how I want it, while specifically excluding anything contrary to those interests, and has enforcement of my interests built in.