Hey do anybody know where you get a tv that supports 4k and does not have that locked up smarttv shit?

If there are none, does anybody know a tv that boots fast(less than 30 seconds) and displays an hdmi input by default without the need to choose the input from a menu.

Thanks in advance.

And sorry if I am in the wrong place.

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    Does it bother anyone else to pay for all that “smartness” and then figure out how NOT to use it?

    How can consumers fight back against this bullshit?

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      You aren’t paying for the smartness. You are actually getting a subsidized TV that should cost a whole lot more but is being sold for cheap since it is also a data collection device.

      Non smart TVs are more expensive than their smart counterparts.

      The only answer is to never give your smart tv access to your network and to use an external device for streaming.

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        2 years ago

        You’re right. What you really need is a tv that reacts less bad to being online. It’s a shame Logitech killed the Harmony because dumbing down your tv successfully generally requires a universal remote.

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          As a long time Harmony user, expert, and former employee … The Sofabaton remotes are the closest substitute I’ve found. Easy to configure and use. Just no “activities” like a Harmony. But at least you can set it to control the volume on X device when you have it in the mode to control Y device.

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            Activities are the killer app of Harmony. How do you set it to switch inputs on the various devices?

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              It has a physical scroll wheel to switch between devices. The on each device mode you can customize the buttons.

              I use configure one of the buttons to be a hot key to set the TVs input for the device I have selected.

              Again, it’s not as automated as an activity, but it eliminates switching around to different devices and finding inputs.

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                2 years ago

                In our case we have some devices connected to a receiver (Apple TV) and others to TV (game systems). We use ARC for audio for those devices. I suppose it’s easier if everything is connected to TV for that purpose.

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        Not really. All the extra circuitry costs money. Building and maintaining the software costs money. And that’s way more than you’re expected to “earn”.

        As much as it fuels your conspiracy boners, it’s not like Samsung is raking in billions by showing you ads.

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      Lots of the “features” are profit motivated. Lots of companies love to be paid for bundling software on the device.