And go fucking where and how?? They all will just catch the train?? A boat?? A really big bus??
Also
The Israeli military said it would operate “significantly” in Gaza City in the coming days and civilians would only be able to return when another announcement was made.
Famously leaving and returning is very easy for Palestinians and they will have no reservations leaving with a potential of returning.
Yeah there’s no way the city isn’t just annexed into Israel.
Yeah they are not just going to do that. First they will flatten it and kill anyone who stayed in it THEN they will annex it.
Just leave bro! Trust us™
They don’t care. They already cut off the water. The Israeli government is hoping to see as many men, women and children dead in the deserts and plains of the region as possible.
Haven’t you heard? They’re taking a train to go camping.
Ooof.
I feel like im going nuts.We are watching the destructon of a civillian population take place,cheered on by western goverments and media.I just feel sick
Is it really cheered?
Most people only agree that the murders on civilians started by Hamas were absolutely horrible and unnecessary. As for what is coming after I don’t think normal people are happy about either.
All western mainstream media and western governments are firmly supporting Israel. So, yes the west is actively endorsing genocide here.
Western governments are supporting Israel because they just got over a thousand people butchered.
They’re also asking Israel to show restraint in Palestine. Even the US, Israel’s chief arm’s dealer, is telling them not to do war crimes. Is it meaningless chin music? Of course. But it’s not necessarily an “endorsement”.
If your friend sees his kid get grievously hurt, you support him. When he gets his gun, you try to talk him down. Now, the problem in this story is: you gave him that gun.
I don’t think the west is endorsing genocide.
I do think that, if it really comes to real actual genocide: They armed it.
edit: I thought that weird name looked familiar, so I figured I’d check. Why are they always vatniks?
https://lemmy.ml/comment/3437882 by https://lemmy.ca/u/yogthos@lemmy.ml
No, I don’t think Putin is draining any swamp, but I do think he runs a far more competent administration than western oligarchs.
(Side note, speaking of WWII: Remember that Soviet flag on the Reichstag picture? That’s of a Ukrainian. Taken by a Ukrainian).
And now thanks to the help from the west Ukraine is run by literal fascists. Maybe something you should reflect on.
In any case, this conversation is clearly pointless since you evidently live in an alternate reality. I’ll just let you figure things out on your own and reconcile the fantasies you’ve built up with the real world as it becomes increasingly more difficult to ignore going forward.
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blocked. Life is too short for people like this.
fuck off
Same to you.
And the red in that graph is “injuries”, not “deaths”. When Hamas attacked Israel a few days ago they butchered over 1300 people, mostly civilians, the most ever killed in a single day in this mess.
Does that excuse the Israeli government’s apartheid fascism? Of course not. Does it make appropriate for governments to take a moment to show support? Yes.
You can argue that it’s retaliation for decades of oppression, or for the horrible attacks in Palestine in 2014 that killed even more people spread over a month.
That doesn’t make it right. It’s still terrorism. It’s still butchering civilians.
No, it does not make it appropriate for governments to show support for the genocide that Israel is committing. And the fact that you don’t understand that says everything I need to know about you.
Politicians are afraid to take stances against Israel because they think their consituents are on Israel’s side. Tell them what you think, email them links they cant ignore, call them and explain you know whats up and will call them out for supporting genocide if they don’t take everything thats happened into account. It will make a difference. Its the least anyone could do. Posting on social media about your frustrations only is not enough.
I’m hearing this repeated over and over, but its simply not true. CNN is covering it somewhat adequately. Go to their website.
Yes, fox are freaks. Obviously. And that is the most mainstream media. And what is happening in Gaza is a war crime. But it is willful blindness to say it is being reported in nowhere for the mainstream.
Show me where CNN says what’s happening in Gaza is a war crime and condemning Israel over it?
Its not the job of journalists to make that kind of judgement call. Only to report the facts on The ground. They have written plenty of articles about what Human Rights Watch, EU politicians, UN has to say on the matter.
The fact that what Israel is doing in Gaza is a war crime is a plain fact according to the international law and the UN. The journalists aren’t being asked to make this judgment, it’s already been made. They’re asked to report the facts which they are not. The fact that you feel the need to try and whitewash this really says volumes.
How am I white washing? I have stated repeatedly in my posts that they are indeed warcrimes. I figured that out impression following mainstream media coverage btw.
No, you are only trying to advance a case for all mainstream media being propaganda, blindly, without actually watching or criticizing it. This is ideological, and while it is an effective critique of the modern media landscape, you are using it to lie about the nature of the reporting.
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Agree. I can acknowledge Hamas is fucked up, while also acknowledging Israel is using a bigger stick to simply be more fucked up in a more organized way now.
With an openly racist rhetoric too. Goverment officials are calling Palestinians “savages, animals, vermin” OPENLY, the head of state is posting videos about buildings getting bombed proudly.
Yeah there’s one universal truth in war: everyone loses. Maybe it’s their life, their sanity, their resources, or their supporters, but everyone loses.
Me too, it’s completely insane
Which western governments are cheering it on?
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How the fuck do you evacuate more than 1 million people , where the majority are women and children??
You can’t. Isreal knows this. But by saying “We told them to evacuate” they’ve now provided themselves sufficient cover for everything that happens after. When civilians get slaughtered on mass they’ll just keep repeating “They were told evacuate”.
Not to mention the old, the sick and the disabled. On top of that the numerous injured from the bombings.
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Over a million people out of a city in that region is impossible.
Over a million people are going where exactly? Are there camps where they can stay? Where there is water and food? Are their basic needs met? Or are they just expected to walk into the desert, never to return from the shadow realm?
Over a million people who are supposed to stay away while the Israeli military does what exactly? Fight against the Hamas on a fair battlefield? Because the Hamas is known for playing by the rules, yes? Because they also won’t just leave the city to strike at a later time, right? You understand how terrorists operate? You might have learned one thing or another in the last few decades?
Over a million people who can’t leave the city and will either get murdered by the Israeli military, murdered by Hamas or slaughtered in the crossfire. Israel can say „Told ya to leave the city“ and Hamas will get rock hard at the next generation of desperate people who will be easy to recruit.
But what do I know? You do you. Everyone else seems to know it better and shit just keeps getting worse. Every single decade, this shitfest escalates more and more. People die, politicians condemn, some really like the idea of Jew or Muslims dying. Everyone acts like they did a thing.
This is not the end. We will be here again in ten years. Same shit, only even worse than now.
The impossibility of evacuating all those people safely is the point, Israel wants the civilians to die.
This is the modern Trail of Tears, but since Israel has been predetermined to be the good guy it will be cheered and celebrated.Meanwhile Hamas is telling people to stay and is actively stopping people from leaving. source
With how messy a evacuation this large and sudden tends to be, stopping it may save lives.
It depends on what Israel does after the time is up though, so that isn’t for sure better or worse.
They history doesn’t repeat itself. But sure enough, there is an awful lot of verses in the books that rhyme with the last week.
Israel’s wet dream, an excuse to displace half of all Palestinians from their land, bomb it all to the ground, if there are casualties; “Hey, you were warned.”
Don’t get me wrong. Fuck Hamas, but also fuck Israel, fuck neocolonialism, fuck propaganda/disinformation about baby beheadings and free Palestine!
Don’t forget fuck religion. Let’s not pretend like that’s not a core issue.
Fuck religion and self righteous religious zealots who’ve abandoned reason and humanity
This scene from a game has some resemblance of the situation. Plus, israel is using white phosporus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7TaLjdXMc
“Why…?” “You brought this on yourself”
If you’re gonna link to That Scene from Spec Ops you gotta include a “Seriously Gnarly Shit Ahead” content warning or something.
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This is barely even a “formality” before a massacre. Israel was looking for an excuse to go all out without any restraint and they got it. It’s fucking tragic that these bastards are playing with civilians lives. Fuck both authorities.
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It’s a war between genocidal terrorists and apartheid colonialist fascists, with a massive civilian body count on both sides. Can’t we all just be sad about dead kids instead of being cheerleading freaks?
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Y’know, I though this @ name was familiar and so I figured I’d take a look.
https://lemmy.ca/comment/3944960
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
Israel is genociding and colonising Palestine since about 80 years. Ukraine was genociding Donbass for 8 years.
… yeah, I’m not sure I’m really going to take him seriously on his opinion on geopolitics. Blocked.
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You want to point out where he’s wrong or do you want to admit that you haven’t researched these conflicts?
Same tactic by israel before. They flat out a building office of AlJazeera & Associated Press back in 2021 with a 1 hour warning. They really dont care if all civilian manage to evacuate or not
Killing journalists, truly a sign of a healthy democracy
Only democracy in the middle east baby! 👉👉
So considering the disproportionate actions against innocent civilians we’re seeing Israel do to annex some land, we’re surely will see sanctions and economic blocks against them soon right? RIGHT?
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Israel has been pretty consistent with not wanting to annex Gaza land; it isn’t like there is that much left. The focus has generally been to take over the West Bank.
Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if Israel moved Palestinians from the West Bank to Southern Gaza for “safety reasons” to clear out pockets of West Bank Palestinians.
Get out of here with the “disproportionate actions” rhetoric. Watch any countey get shot at ONCE and take it like Israel has consistently for the past DECADES. Enough is enough. Hamas is ISIS and has been elected by the people of Gaza. Never again means never again
has been elected by the people of Gaza
Not really. The last election was 17 years ago and literally half the current population are aged 18 or younger.
Israel is a terrorist state.
Not even a state. Just a colonial project by terrorist settlers.
By colonists, for colonists
That would be near impossible even if organized.
It literally just feels like a guise so that when humans rights groups or the international community raise questions about it they can be like, “But we warned them!!”
After 24 hours Israel will slaughter who is left and pretend like everyone who isn’t Hamas had time to leave. This smells like a thin concession so Israel can pretend like they follow international laws for whatever comes next.
And then many of those who managed to flee end up dying too, since they have nowhere to go.
Also, large crowds fleeing in panic are not exactly save in themselves. And don’t even start with people with disabilities.
so Israel can pretend like they follow international laws for whatever comes next.
They aren’t part of the Geneva Convention, so they’ll likely stick with the their own (US-backed) rules.
Damn, Isreal really saw what happened in fallujah and went “Ooh write that down write that down”
This coming massacre brought to you by taxpayers like you! Thank you!
I see someone has an Endlösung in mind. It’s hard to escape the impression that maybe it wasn’t intelligence community incompetence that invited this “perl habor”. And the plans for this do feel like they’ve been in some drawer for a while.
Nothing justifies Hamas but likewise, nothing justifies doing this to the many innocent, the children, the babies, the people just happened to be born in the wrong spot. The average age in Gaza is, iirc, below 18
I mean, Gaza is larger than just Gaza city so it could be done eventually I guess but the timeline is laughable.
