• @Darkassassin07@lemmy.caEnglish
    40•2 years ago

    Seems like the kinda thing that comes down to “because it hasn’t been explicitly told not to yet”. It’s a computer grabbing from an ever changing pool of instances based on parameters, not a person hand picking what they like. Computers aren’t usually aware of social ques or laws…

  • Cyclohexane
    24•2 years ago

    I don’t have a link, but the lemmy creators (and maintainers of join-lemmy) answered this in a AMA about a month ago. They said they’d prefer the horrible people concentrate in their own instances so we can block them easily rather than have them in our instances. The join lemmy list does not serve as an endorsement, but a catalog of all available instances.

    • MrSpArkle
      12•2 years ago

      Saying it’s not an endorsement is playing semantic games. Join-lemmy.org is a site that promotes Lemmy, and having this instance there is encouraging new users to hop onboard an instance that encourages people to discuss how best to rape children.

    • @dramaticcat@sh.itjust.worksOP
      0•2 years ago

      I don’t have a link, but the lemmy creators (and maintainers of join-lemmy) answered this in a AMA about a month ago. They said they’d prefer the horrible people concentrate in their own instances so we can block them easily rather than have them in our instances. The join lemmy list does not serve as an endorsement, but a catalog of all available instances.

      Neither burggit nor comfysnug are shown on the instances page.

  • DessalinesM
    22•2 years ago

    Sry about that yall, I was out today.

    Its gone now thx to @SleeplessOne1917@lemmy.ml .

    Any admins as well as anyone that runs instance discoverers / crawlers like join-lemmy.org be sure to update your blocklists,.

    Edit: In the future if anyone could make PR’s to this file, we’ll try to get to them ASAP.

    • Bleeping LobsterEnglish
      2•2 years ago

      Sorry if you’ve had to answer this question too much… where can I find out why these instances have been added to the blocklist? Some of them I recognise from previous incidences where someone has flagged them as problematic & provided evidence but some are confusing. I’m nervous about checking them out, but I clicked on one because it sounded very innocuous.

      lemmy.glasgow.social just appears to be an instance discussing social events in Glasgow, Scotland, with additional focus on hacking / computer science… how come it’s been blocked? In the modlog I can see that they had a bit of a user purge about 3 months ago with no actions taken since then. But there’s never been any deleted comments or posts.

  • @MataVatnik@lemmy.world
    10•2 years ago

    That was an interesting rabbit hole I just went through. There was a post about French postmodern philosophers who defended pedophilia that was posted on that instance as a validation to their cause, meanwhile all the comments under the video are of people recounting their trauma of being sexually assaulted as children.

  • Cadenza
    4•2 years ago

    Err, are you sure about your words op? I just looked at their sidebar and it looks pretty clear about that, no?

    Quoting :

    “Nothing illegal under US (specifically Nevada) or local law. You know what that includes. (In case you don’t know what that includes, I mean child pornography [anything that fails the Dost Test], sexually interacting with minors, etc.) We have a zero tolerance policy for anything that fails the Dost test. Anything violating it will result in an immediate ban and removal of images. No admitting to anything that could cause the server to go under investigation, such as looking at child porn.”

    Edit : Well, looks like they don’t enforce this rule indeed.

  • @morphballganon@lemmy.world
    -20•2 years ago

    This is like criticising a knife enthusiasts group because knives could be used to commit crime.

    It’s ok to have a community for kinky people. The fact that certain individuals look at illegal stuff doesn’t mean we should get rid of the instance, nor hide it from people who want to use it.

    • CaptainBasculin
      21•2 years ago

      I do not care if people have a cuckolding, scat or whatever fetish they want, as long as it involves consent of some sort.

      Children cannot consent for sexual acts. Being at the recieving end of such actions irrepeairably scars their mental life forever; and any person who’s ok with this deserves torture before death.

    • BraveSirZaphod
      13•2 years ago

      Sure, but if the knife enthusiasts group is also promoting to you a “Slashing Children With Knives Enthusiasts” group, I think it’s worth criticizing.

      And it is absolutely worth hiding from people who want to use it if the group in question is hosting pedophilia.

      Speaking as a gay guy, there is an astroturf effort from the alt-right to try to paint the LGBT community as being so “inclusive” as to also include literal pedophiles, as if it’s just another sexuality or kink, and I’d rather prefer to nip that squarely in the bud by drawing a very hard line.

    • magnetosphere
      5•2 years ago

      That is a piss-poor analogy. Considering that you’re trying to defend the indefensible, though, I’d say it’s the least of your problems.

        • magnetosphere
          2•2 years ago

          Understood. I don’t know where you’re from, so let me tell you about a common legal concept in the United States: aiding and abetting. Basically, if you knowingly help someone commit a crime (possessing cp), you’re often guilty of a crime as well. Plus, there’s the issue of distributing cp. That’s a crime in itself.

          To me, though, the legal details are secondary. My biggest issue is informed consent. Children cannot give informed consent. Therefore, any sexual pictures/video are exploitation. That’s not okay.

          Just the other day, I was talking with someone about the important difference between morality and legality, but in the case of cp, I think they got it right.

          (If you choose to reply, take your time. I’m headed out and won’t be able to answer right away.)

            • magnetosphere
              2•2 years ago

              Oh. We’re talking about slightly different things here. I was arguing against the instance existing at all.

              As for aiding and abetting, I can see it being successfully argued that yes, having the instance show up IS aiding and abetting. Granted, it’s not as clear cut, but if it’s proven that the people maintaining the search engine knew it was an instance that contained cp, that could be a major issue.

    • froggers
      1•2 years ago

      being a pedo is not a kink. don’t really understand why it’s that hard to understand.

      • @morphballganon@lemmy.world
        -1•2 years ago

        What you are doing is called the straw man fallacy. Obvs pedophilia isn’t a kink, and you would know I wasn’t defending it if you had good reading comprehension skills.

        • froggers
          4•2 years ago

          Yeah I guess when your dumass said “It’s ok to have a community for kinky people.” I mistakenly thought that you meant that pedos are a kink community. Honestly don’t know how I could have misread that. fuckwit

    • @dramaticcat@sh.itjust.worksOP
      0•2 years ago

      You realize that they host MAP, beastiality, and zoophilia communities?

      It’s one thing to host kinky communities (a-ok as long as it’s legal), it’s another to host pedo communities. Check the fediseer link listed in the post for examples.