Cadenza
Come with the great migration.
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Among penal abolitionist, there are minimalists and maximalists. To better understand how some abolitionists can think that in some residual cases, a segregative solution may be used, one needs to keep in mind that penal abolitionism wants the abolition of the penal system, i.e. a special form of cooperation between police, courts and prison.
Some others would disagree, though. I would personally disagree, but with fellow abolitionist, I try to keep an open mind and understand we basically strive for the same thing.
One important thing : it is commonly accepted among abolitionists that one is stuck with what tools are at their disposition to seek justice. As such, no abolitionist will ever tell a victim what he or she should do. Even one of the most radical contemporary one, like Mariam Kaba, seeks to set up transformative justice devices for people who don’t want to engage with the penal system for various reasons (for example, secondary victimization)
- Anyone who says ‘science doesn’t care about your feelings’ likely has a very limited understand of science
- There should be no prison but no penal system altogether
- Vote, don’t vote, do whatever the hell you want but don’t shove it into people’s face
- Aiming to be politically 100% pure and judging those who can’t be as pure boils down to chasing political activism cookies/elo. The only useful thing is doing one’s best.
I just realized that feelings are, in fact, facts. On what level, that would need to be determined.
Oh, not them. I suppose they meant among non-right wingers. I always found quite explicit they aren’t welcome here. Not today, not ever.
Well yes, sadly, we can’t embrace a cosmic perspective, because it’s not ours. We can have a human perspective though.
I do that way too often and… I wonder if it’s not a special kind of self poisoning.
Hmmm… I may skip this one. This one requires a… special mood I guess (upvoting though!)
Hmmm. I’ll try to remember this one, thank you, that’s a real gift.
A life lesson I’ll learn one day. Trying my best though, but it’ll take time. Thanks for sharing.
Love this one. Used to teach students in political science about the horrible thing that “political ventiloquism” is.
Recently, I learned about a historical quote, from French PM Daladier on his way back from Munich where he knew he gave everything to Hitler.
He got out his plane, expecting to be lynched or thrown oranges at, and people, when he realized people were praising him as a herald of “peace”, let out this magnificent “Ah… what a bunch of idiots”.
It’s beautiful and I can understand why it sticks… Thanks for letting us know!!
Oh and there’s also this one ftom H2G2 :
Slartibartfast: Perhaps I’m old and tired, but I think that the chances of finding out what’s actually going on are so absurdly remote that the only thing to do is to say, “Hang the sense of it,” and keep yourself busy. I’d much rather be happy than right any day. Arthur Dent: And are you? Slartibartfast: Ah, no. [laughs, snorts] Slartibartfast: Well, that’s where it all falls down, of course
Hmm, you’re right. I first read this sentence for the first time as an epigraph for a violently anti-patriotic, individualistic, fantastic and oniric book which gave me this impression. After a bit of digging, I still think there’s something of my interpretation in the original material (a lettre from Vaché to Aragon from the battlefield), but it’s also a dadaist piece, so not so easy to decipher, in which he wishes for the death of his own generals, somehow talks about killing Germans while wearing a monocle and, all of them soldiers, French and German, being slowly decerebrated. He was fighting and killing although he was still against the war, seemed to be borderline self-destructing, dandy, rebelling, talking multiple times about how war changed him for the worse in both his mind and his body, crippled for life too. He died at 23 from an opium overdose.
So there is certainly more to it. Indeed, he doesn’t say what I implied and seemed to be such a complicated person he might have wrote the quote while thinking it is a good thing, but I suppose my interpretation isn’t totally absurd.
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Oh, yeah. There’s another one like this for me, a very short poem I read when I was a teenager :
“Ah, what are they dreaming…? Those who say, say, say… Yesterday I was there, today I was here”
That’s so lovely!
And yet, a WWI soldier uttered that phrase. I suppose he did not share this view of WW1. Or he couldn’t have wrote that.
Oh, right. I thought it was related to a particular kind of diagnosis. Thanks for clarifying.
Wait what does libertarian mean in English. Because with use two words, “libertaire” and “” libertarian" in French and although I’d gladly identify as the first, I have nothing but contempt for the second.