• @oldGregg@lemm.ee
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    1552 years ago

    Lemmy before i installed connect:

    us politics us politics us politics

    Lemmy after i filtered politics using connect:

    Comments bitching about there being politics…

    Cant win

      • Dudewitbow
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        Its not neccesarily obsessive, its just those happened to be communiies commoted tonleaving the other site, ao it visually appears to be the mainstream thought.

        Linux is one of the larger communties who made the jump (in general tech people are more prone to caring about privacy and control, as tech communities in general are some of the largest here on lemmy)

        Heck one of the largest communities is piracy discussion.

      • Iron Lynx
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        212 years ago

        Not entirely correct.

        It’s obsessive hatred of car dependency. It’s not that surprisingly many of us hate cars, it’s that surprisingly many of us hate that you necessarily need a car to do anything outside of the house.

        • @MrLuemasG@lemmy.world
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          Nooo, I ended up having to filter the fuckcars community because they were angry at ANYBODY that uses a car for any reason - like top voted comments and posts. I saw somebody get jumped by multiple responders for bringing up how there are small towns and people that live hours away from large cities that would still need cars for transportation

          Like, I’m as much for improving public transit and reducing the amount of cars on the road in every instance where it’s viable. I specifically moved within 10 miles of my job so I could start riding my bike to work instead of driving my hybrid car. It’s not that I’m pro car, I’m just anti-extremist

          • @bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
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            I’ve gotten into it with a couple of guys for needing a truck. I’m a construction electrician. That means that in addition to lugging my tools around, I have to transport rather large and heavy pieces of equipment/gear on occasion. I’d happily rock a van, but it’s hell trying to find a 4x4 van (snow) at a reasonable price due to the van life crowd. I’ve had guys say use public transport or car share, like dude, I work 6 days a week, that isn’t viable. It’s a completely one sided conversation with them.

            • @MrLuemasG@lemmy.world
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              22 years ago

              My favorite response was somebody saying small towns in America should still have infrastructure and trains to connect them (which I agree with in theory) because every small town in the UK has them without even realizing there are small towns in the US that could fit the entirety of the UK between them and the nearest other town or city.

              • @bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
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                Lol nevermind that many of those towns/villages in the UK are centuries old, while many of the smaller towns (especially out west) sprang up specifically because of the national highway system, and also many have died with the introduction of the interstate highway system. I’m all for improving our national rail lines, but it would need to be implemented carefully to ensure that no more smaller towns die out due to lack of service. And to your last point, this is where specifically a high speed rail system would excel, if only just to efficiently cover the vast distances between US towns.

        • @letsgocrazy@lemm.ee
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          42 years ago

          Nah man, there’s some crazy fucking Fuck Cars peoples who don’t even think parents of severely mentally disabled children should have a car.

          There’s always absolute extremists, and they are never fucking silent.

        • See the issue here is that a lot of these Reddit activists, they start out with a good cause that a lot of people could be sympathetic towards but they end up taking it too far because they’re all terminally online extremists.

          Here’s a few examples:

          Veganism: A lot of people are on board with treating animals better and eating more plants, but Redditors take it too far by advocating for the complete ban of meat and the prosecution of places like homeless shelters for providing turkeys on thanksgiving because that’s genocide to them.

          Cars: A lot people would agree that we should decrease dependency on cars because they’re loud, they pollute, and they’re dangerous, but Redditors take it too far by wanting to ban all cars with no exceptions even if the exception is for parents with disabled kids.

          Atheism: A lot of people would consider the possibility of there being no God and that religions deserve criticism, but Redditors take it too far by wanting to force all religious people to convert to atheism… or else.

          Work reform: A lot of people support the idea of having stronger work protections and better wages, but Redditors take it too far by either by being full blown tankies or by rejecting the idea of work all together, regardless of how delusional and impractical that is.

          Feminism: Most people believe that women should have equal rights and treatment in society, but Redditors take it too far by being full blown misandrists who want to oppress all men and “liberate” women from them.

          Not to mention how with every one of these types of communities you always have the classic “you’re either with us or against us” mentality. Every disagreement makes a you a nazi/altright/bigot, their cause is totally comparable to the struggle against nazi Germany and the holocaust, and they are totally the good guys who have the total support of the general public (especially the young people) and that they’re just a minor enemy (read: cartoon villain) away from achieving utopia.

          The communities on here are just an extension of those, and they bring with them the same type of toxic idiots to this platform.

          • Iron Lynx
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            02 years ago

            For one, if something is described as “carbrained,” the subject is discounting, ignoring or outright rejecting alternatives to driving. A carbrained take would not necessarily be one that prefers cars. A carbrained take would include things like:

            • “the only way to make more room for people to move from A to B is by adding more lanes to highways!” (a concept that’s proven to only make traffic worse)
            • “This cycling lane is not being used. Let’s remove it!” (Which may be a fallacy based on the fact that cyclists move more freely in seemingly confined space, or the fact that the specific cycling lane in question may be an isolated lane with no origins and destinations on it)
            • “What? A bus lane? What a waste of space! Let me drive there!” (where the speaker fails to see that one bus easily holds four dozen people, which would mean four dozen cars not on the road, if & only if that bus is not affected by road traffic.
            • “We’re wasting money on this high speed railway line between these two cities about 500 km apart!” (failing to see that distances between about 300 to about 800 km are the sweet spot where high speed rail is exactly in that sweet spot of distance where it’s faster than both driving and flying.)

            For two, the car lobby is already great at needlessly extending commutes. When the Katy Freeway near Houston was expanded to its current width of 26 lanes, the widest in the world, travel times changed from end to end from just around three quarters of an hour, to more than a whole hour. An increase of about a third. I could go on and on about this, but let’s just say that it takes a lot more to make trains work worse, and generally, if you try to ameliorate transit service by expanding it, that makes transit better for everyone, including car drivers, unlike if you expand highways.

            The thing of the anti car dependency movement is that they demand more developments to not to have to drive. They demand more space be dedicated to more sustainable developments, with less parking, uses closer together, more room for people out on foot or bikes to get where they want to go, all that jazz.

            Ultimately, the anti car dependency movement wants freedom. The freedom not to have to drive if you don’t want to, don’t need to, or for any reason cannot. And that is what carbrained people are not getting.

    • Chev
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      22 years ago

      What exactly are you filtering for? Just the word politics?

    • IninewCrow
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      02 years ago

      Welcome to the corporately controlled internet where marketing firms, public relations agencies and communications firms constantly try to manipulate the public discourse.

      If you use filters … you can actually hear and read what people want to talk about.

      • @TommySalami@lemmy.world
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        Well, you can definitely narrow it down to what you want to read and talk about. I’m interested in doing that with politics (US), and I’m very far away from any kind of PR or marketing person. People can genuinely want to talk politics, it’s not always a corporate conspiracy.

        • IninewCrow
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          -12 years ago

          The best kind of marketing is the type you are completely unaware of.

          The world runs on money … money is made by convincing people to give it to you … our modern world is built on convincing people … but people don’t like being convinced … so you have to convince them without letting them know they’ve been convinced.

          It’s not a corporate conspiracy … it’s just business.

  • @drathvedro@lemm.ee
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    392 years ago

    I’m fine with USA politics, because they got their hands up in everyone’s asses so it affects everyone.

    What bothers me more is American football. Nobody except them even plays this game but it’s all over the news every time there’s a major event. Same for baseball.

  • @saumanahaii@lemm.ee
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    342 years ago

    I can’t wait for Lemmy to get big enough that I can unsub from all the big Lemmies. On Reddit I had a bunch of niche communities that were pretty nice and not political. Now all those spammers I avoided have come here too and the Lemmies aren’t big enough to avoid them yet.

    • @letsgocrazy@lemm.ee
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      The annoying thing is these people never see themselves as the insufferable bores always taking about local politics.

      It’s always really important.

      It’s always that you’re a nazi if you don’t agree.

      It’s just modern born-again Christians, who aren’t knocking on your door, they’re posting in your social Media.

      • CheezyWeezle
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        Well, when you realize that most of the radical communists on here truly believe that there must be an eternal struggle working towards communism but never actually achieving the goal, it makes sense why they are the way they are.

        Literally had one of them tell me that is beyond unrealistic to expect any state to be able to even implement Socialism to any real degree. Of course, in Marxism a Socialist state must exist before withering away as Communism is fully realized, so they will literally admit that their philosophy is impossible to achieve.

        They fetishize the struggle; they don’t actually want progress, they want to complain.

        • @SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml
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          12 years ago

          They fetishize the struggle; they don’t actually want progress, they want to complain.

          In the past they were sitting in cafes across Europe, chain smoking and writing pamphlets.

        • Kool_Newt
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          02 years ago

          “Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.” - Eleanor Roosevelt.

          Which of these are you discussing now?

          • CheezyWeezle
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            12 years ago

            You should go back to your quotes, its pretty obvious that we are discussing the idea of holding a belief while simultaneously categorizing that belief as impossible.

      • @saumanahaii@lemm.ee
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        22 years ago

        I’d say that fixes the problem, but, uh, pretty sure it’ll just strangle the platform. Really the only thing I can think of is a few people bouying smaller subs with content. Some of the art Lemmies in the ‘imaginaryXYZ’ realm are a good example, with like one person posting content on basically all of them. It’s enough to make it worth subbing though.

        Also I love how a post about how I’m tired of all the politics turned into a political discussion. Like, I do agree with one of the sides, but that’s literally what we’re complaining about.

  • Polar
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    Americans are really annoying. They ruin the internet with their ability to turn ANYTHING and EVERYTHING into American politics. Even if it’s about a cat on the opposite side of the world.

    My favourite is posting a comment and having someone say “you voted for Biden, didn’t you?”. Nah, bro, I stepped foot in your country once and was mugged at gun point. I will never be back, let alone a fucking citizen of that shit hole.

    • @SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml
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      62 years ago

      Americans are interested in American politics. Next thing you’ll tell me is Europeans are interested in European politics. I never hear about Brexit…

      • Polar
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        12 years ago

        Whats your point?

        Americans bring their politics into everything. “Europeans” (such a generalization), bring their politics into posts that pertain to it.

        Americans being upset because Starfield has pronouns is annoying. You don’t really see “Europeans”, Canadians, Mexicans, etc. crying about it. Just citizens of the USA.

        • Based on my time on the internet, the region with the most annoying political users is Europe. They almost always fall under one of these four categories:

          1. Western Europeans with a superiority complex with the US

          2. Western Europeans with an inferiority complex with the US

          3. Eastern Europeans who want to ethnically cleanse each other (Serbia and Albania, Greece and Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Armenia and Turkey, Bosnia and Serbia, Poland and Belarus, Poland and Russia, Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine and Hungary, and the list goes on and on).

          4. Ultra racist tankies, islamists, or neo nazis who want to see the collapse of the EU, the eradication of immigrants, and “independence from US occupation”

          Per capita, they’re second to none in ignorance, arrogance, and sheer whininess. However, they tend to get drowned out by the sheer amount American users on any given platform.

      • @YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca
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        12 years ago

        That would be nice, especially if it were by a lake or ocean, but I’d have to hire someone to mow the lawn.

        • I would have a small section near the house that I would use as a typical backyard, but I would want the majority of the land to be like a mini nature preserve (whether it’s natural or engineered). Just chilling in your own slice of nature without the threat of government incompetence or corporate greed sounds great to me

  • Margot Robbie
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    232 years ago

    You want to hear something spooky?

    This isn’t even an American election year yet.

    • @Gestrid@lemmy.ca
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      52 years ago

      I’m assuming you mean presidential election. But there are some state and local elections coming up this year. In fact, today is National Voter Registration Day in the US. (There’s a specific day to remind people to register to vote or update their registration as needed.)

      • @twopi@lemmy.ca
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        12 years ago

        You guys have “National Voter Registration Day” but it’s not a public holiday? Wow! In Canada, we have same day voter registration and it helps a lot!

        • @Gestrid@lemmy.ca
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          The day itself is more just to remind people to register to vote. Registering to vote can be done any day of the year, though there is a deadline if you plan to vote in a certain election. You don’t need to register more than once in a particular state, though you do need to update your registration if you move to a new address.

          The deadline for registration varies by state. For my state, it’s 22 days before an election. But, at least in my state (this isn’t the case in every state, but it’s getting there), even if you don’t register by the deadline, you can still fill out a voter registration form and vote using a provisional ballot (meaning it will be counted later that week after your voter registration has processed) on election day.

          Basically, National Voter Registration Day is used to avoid a lot of headaches for everyone involved.

          • @twopi@lemmy.ca
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            Just get rid of the nonsense and learn to be civilized you heathen! I think it’s time for Europe to colonize America to civilize them again /s

            All ballots are counted on election day here. I know because I was a Poll Clerk in an election. The Deputy Returning Officer (person in charge of the polling station) has final say on same day registration and then all ballots cast are counted on election day.

            Or better yet be like Colorado with automatic registration.

    • @akulium@feddit.de
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      32 years ago

      Both could be good if they were more strictly organized into communities or servers and the “all” feeds would lose importance… but unfortunately we are all just a bunch of shitposters and not the intellectuals we pretend to be

  • Evie
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    152 years ago

    Ugh… Wake Me Up, When September Ends.