• Izzy@lemmy.worldBanned
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    3 years ago

    I’ve been seeing this a lot lately. Lots of bandwagoning going on. It is what it is though. People are fallible and often just follow the herd instead of thinking.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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      3 years ago

      Reddit had a lot of problems. Some of them were caused by having people as admins. Some were caused by having people as mods. Some were caused by having people as users.

      Lemmy also has people as admins, mods, and users, so it will see many of the same problems.

      Though Lemmy won’t necessarily turn into Reddit because it’s designed to have competition among the admins, so they are less likely to get a sense of “they don’t have a choice even if they don’t like what we’re doing”.

      • BeefDaddySupreme@lemmy.world
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        3 years ago

        I’m looking forward to Lemmy growing and the freedom it provides. Being banned by rogue admins then to be unbanned then 3 months later being banned then unbanned, all with zero explanation was so irksome.

    • atticus88th@lemmy.world
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      3 years ago

      A circlejerk community where facts are thrown out the window. Doesnt matter where its hosted, social media just going to keep doing what its doing.

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        3 years ago

        It seems like there is at least one down vote for every comment that gets enough attention for a few upvotes. I assume there is someone here who just really likes downvoting.

        That and, at least on Memmy mobile, you swipe right to upvote and swipe slightly further right to down vote. Also upvote color is orange and downvote color is blue, which is counter intuitive to me personally. So if I get a few downvotes on a comment I think is awesome, I just figure it was an accident and someone was trying to upvote me. Because I’m awesome and who would down vote me?

        ETA: See?! 👇 Thanks for the attempted upvote, kind stranger!

    • mikeboltonshair@sh.itjust.works
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      3 years ago

      I’ve def seen it both ways, lots of this person/this thing is bad types of threads on here with tons of people agreeing while spewing out pure nonsense

      Like this https://lemmy.world/comment/3213143

      I think Elon is a fuckwit but come on use some common sense it’s nowhere near treason this person has legitimately no clue what they are talking about and it’s upvoted to shit

      On the other hand I’ve commented about stuff on here and if I had said the same things on Reddit I would have gotten downvotes, comments deleted or banned, and instead the comments were upvoted instead.

      Idgaf about upvotes or downvotes it’s just interesting to see what the majority of people think is reasonable and that’s the way they show it.

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        3 years ago

        Yea I saw that and thought about commenting but figured it would of been hitting my head on a brick wall. It’s funny how people went from loving him to despising him all because they were told to because he brought Twitter

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    It’s interesting you’re proving your point by your own post being upvoted right now.

    The initial number of 42% isn’t that far off of reality. My own garage/shop is 36% right now. And I will at some point add onto it. Right now it is 25’x32’ and I would like another 20’ on it. Then it would be 25’x52’ and 48%. And I live right in town, on a regular 1/4 acre lot.

    There are defintely houses in Wisconsin here that are at 60%. I can go on realtor.com right now and find properties with large pole sheds and garage spaces that account for 60%.

    I don’t see any claims of majority, just that it can happen. And it definitely does, unless you don’t consider steel frame buildings and pole sheds, but why wouldn’t you? Here is one example, and another example, and another example, but I could find plenty of others. Just go on realtor.com search Wisconsin and set garage spaces to 3+ and maximum home size to 2250 sq feet and you will see plenty of examples of 60% and even greater.

    Another one. Another one. Okay. I’m done now because I’m starting to get garage envy looking at some of these.

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      3 years ago

      I don’t know if I’m supposed to upvote you because I like your comment or downvote you for being right.

    • MrMusAddict@lemmy.worldOP
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      Excellent point. The initial intent of my squabble wasn’t trying to deny that counter-examples exist, just that when comparing 100 houses to 100 apartments, that there seemed to be losses in living space for the apartment (law of averages and whatnot).

      I had made another comment on that /c/FuckCars thread that calculated that if all of the homes had 1-car garages (which is not uncommon for a lot of dense low-density suburbs), then the homes would be 1740 SqFt with the garage / 1500 SqFt Livable, and the apartments would be 1009 SqFt livable. So a 33% loss of livable space in the image with what I would consider a reasonable assumption.

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        3 years ago

        Fair enough, but that is not discernible from the post. You’re highlighting what they are saying, and all they are saying is, “Sometimes, the garage is more than 60% of the whole house.” And you are implying with this post that it is factually incorrect, when it is in fact true.

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    Larger garages are more environmentally friendly. My garage is huge compared to my house. It has 2 cars, a laundry, and all of the stuff I don’t use every day.

    This is an area that is not heated or cooled. By having all the storage in the garage, I can get by with less living space.

    Garages are cheaper per square metre than rooms, so you save money there too.

    You get all the stuff into the same size house, but with less building materials, less heating and cooling costs, and less clutter in your house.

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      3 years ago

      Wouldn’t it be more environmentally friendly to store your cars outside and not have a garage?

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        3 years ago

        My car is 20 years old and has zero rust. The environmental footprint of manufacturing a car is huge. They last much longer in a garage. It also doesn’t need to get washed as often. Washing has an environmental overhead too.

    • Preston Maness ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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      My garage is huge compared to my house. It has 2 cars, a laundry, and all of the stuff I don’t use every day.

      You get all the stuff into the same size house

      Sounds like the problem is all the stuff.

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      Am I not supposed to like that? Cause I really like that house design. Garage for days.

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        3 years ago

        That looks amazing. I’d actually have space to work on a project car, plus store my daily, as well as extra storage, probably a server rack and a whole bunch of other stuff. One of the things I notice most about living in an apartment vs my childhood home is how much storage space we had in our garage.

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    3 years ago

    This just gets worse when you use what developers call a two car garage now. 24x24 would be awesome, it’s more like 18x20 now despite bigger cars.

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    3 years ago

    This sort of thing has always happened.

    I do find it particularly infuriating when it’s a topic I’m knowledgeable in/involves my profession. But then I remember most people are stupid and it doesn’t bother me too much.

    • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
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      I’ve had the “You don’t work in X do you?” or the “tell me you don’t know about X without telling me you don’t work in X”. Oh boy my fucking bachelors and masters and years of experience in the field say otherwise FFS!

      But then I remember most people are stupid and it doesn’t both me too much.

      Great mantra to live by.

  • drathvedro@lemm.ee
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    3 years ago

    Blame the system. Rating system was a good idea to encourage community self-moderation. But,most people treat upvotes/downvotes as likes/dislikes, even when specifically asked to use them differently. And, because of that, places with rating systems inevitably boil down to circlejerking, infobubbles, and tribalism. Too bad the only alternatives are spamholes, chaotic messes with power-tripping moderators, and AI blackboxes designed to control your mind.

    • lugal@lemmy.world
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      3 years ago

      AI blackboxes designed to control your mind.

      They aren’t designed to control your mind but to make money. The mind thing is a side effect.

  • Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz
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    3 years ago

    Many users vote based on emotions here. I often see well written comments with the sources linked and everything, being downvoted, and some low effort reply with an opinion is upvoted, though factually incorrect.

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      3 years ago

      Exactly, who cares about the arrows. Sometimes I vote, sometimes I don’t. Sometimes my finger slips and I hit the wrong arrow anyway. I don’t bother to change it so I take my place as an arbiter of chaos.