Musk needs to go to prison
Or hanged.
He should definitely be charged for the deaths he caused in the Ukraine
There’s a reason the Soviets had gulags.
They were created by people just like Musk.
Yeah that’s true, but we have to hold these people accountable without resorting to fascism and violence somehow.
The gulags were not fascist torture camps. Many of them were barely even prisons, like they were towns where people could move around freely and even go to the theater. They were definitely work camps, where people repaid their debts to society, and the ones for political prisoners had heavy reeducation programs. They were successful, too. Many of the people who were imprisoned for anti-communist/fascist activity became committed socialists by the time of their release (not surprising given the logical nature of Marxism).
There’s a lot of misinformation out there about gulags, but when I say Musk belongs in one, it’s because he needs to work to repay all the damage he has done and if possible he needs to be re-educated. I don’t believe in prisons as punishment. I also don’t believe in capital punishment for people like Musk.
Stalin’s purges must have been an educational tool as well then.
Soviet archival evidence shows that the purges were democratically initiated by the party at large and were initially very popular due to the real problem of capitalist sabotage They got worse when the NKVD became overzealous and stepped beyond the bounds that were given them. The evidence shows that Stalin actually spent more time trying to reign in the excesses, but was often unsuccessful largely due to the weakness of the Soviet state that was recovering from a brutal civil war.
Of course, the purges were very excessive and rightly considered one of the big mistakes of the Stalin era, but the idea that they were his is ahistorical.
No dude, Stalin was a facist at heart and only used communism to further his agenda. He killed anyone who he felt threatened his power and with paranoia. Idk where you get the idea that he was trying to reign in the purges. He wasn’t. Doctor’s Plot, the red purge, holodomor, his hatred of Jews, there’s way too much. Everyone was happy to see him gone, at least secretly (refer to the secret speech). He had terrorised all of USSR.
While the politburo did sign off on the purges (never said they weren’t complicit) it was NOT a democratic process. You need representation of voters there.
You’re focused on the “infrastructure” part of "forced infrastructure " and not the more important forced part.
Never forget that during California wildfires less than 10 years ago, first responders were cut off from communications because Verizon cut them off.
I’m glad that incident is getting remembrance now. We’re now seeing how capital control of services is a national security risk.
Elon Musk is exhibit A in the case for why the people need to seize the means of production.
<Bolshevik chorus swells>
“Oops! It seems you have reached the maximum usage for your plan! Please call a representative to find a plan better suited to your particular usage volume, or text “$5B” to top up with extra credits.”
They keep testing the waters with this shit, cut their balls off to stop it
Fuck Elon! Boycott starlink, Tesla, and space X.
And TwitterX
And anything else with Musk’s fingerprints on it.
Yes 💯
I would space Elon tbh
WOW how much of a scumbag could you possibly get, like, we need to measure this shit because I think this motherfucker is setting some sort of global historical record.
If unnecessary dollars owned is the metric, he already did that.
Things like this should not be privately owned and relied on by militaries, it has this obvious problem, they need a reliable option from EU or Asian country should have one by now. The sooner the world stops trusting usa and fascist owned companies the better as they will betray at the drop of a hat.
That’s why they call it communism and hate it more than they do Satan. Communally owned utilities can’t be someone’s personal money printer, and that’s a problem to them, because they really want that money and power at the expense of the common good long term societal stability.
In my book, if you’re capitalist, you’re fascist. Capitalists have no ideals, no principles, they’re just fundamentally motivated by greed and voracity for more more more forever without any stated win condition. Precisely like cancer.
In all fairness, elon needs the extra money because his american politician shopping spree doesn’t seem to be working. /s
I miss when I was young and naive and thought the world was basically good. I feel like in today’s world I have to protect my nieces and nephews, and future children from what the world really is, which is just sad.
The only solace I get occasionally is focusing on looking at the stars, and what’s out in space, and the vastness of it all, reminding me every once in a while that what happens on our little slice of the universe isn’t all there is.
The world was basically good because serious people created institutions to make the world good after the world almost destroyed itself with pointless war for two generations in a row. Unfortunately it seems we are more regressing to the mean of the world being shitty again.
And starling is polluting the night sky with millions of satellites.
Enjoy stargazing while you still can. We likely only have a few years left.
Since when? We had the Vietnam war, Korean war, Dessert storm, countless interventions in the middle east. And don’t even get me started on what’s going on in Syria. World wars are flashy. But, we never stopped waging war after that. You sound like a bobble headed naive optimist telling me how great the world used to be after WW2.
The whole World is never great. Parts of it have had great times even when other parts suffer. From a North American viewpoint, their world has been more often good or great in the last century.
The vast majority of everyone wants what’s best for everyone else. We just all have really shitty information about each other.
We’re also dictated by a global system that indoctrinates us in a zero sum competitive and antagonistic mindset, which rewards you every step of the way for succumbing to it like feeding you little pellets like a pigeon.
World is basically good, there is a couple of bad apples that abusing good will of the rest of humanity.
Most people are basically good… to the people that matter personally to them. Unless they’re like Vash the Stampede, a typical person’s umbrella of empathy includes only friends and family they regularly see, not humanity in general.
Covid proved otherwise for me. There’s also countless wars, and dictators throughout history who have proven counter to your point. Just bcz some people are nice doesn’t mean the world is basically good.
I just still cannot believe that happened and just…no one cares.
I’m being pedantic, but there are those of who obviously care that this fuck nugget did this.
Nobody who matters cares.
We don’t matter :/
If there is a defining single feature of fascism, it is that only some people matter. He demonstrated that he is a fascist and that the country has become fascist in one movement.
I thought the same as I typed my comment…
Musk is charging Ukraine $2500 per month per Starlink terminal, for over 250,000 terminals. Musk is making bank for shitty service (it’s not fast enough for gaming) and then he cuts services for partisan purposes, costing Ukrainian lives.
The upsell maneuver reminds me of when Verizon tried to do the same thing to California wildfire response services when communications cut out during disaster control efforts. That didn’t play well, either.
Teslas in a few years:
“We notice that you’re in an uncontrolled spin; uncontrolled spins violate Tesla’s terms and conditions; your airbags have been deactivated. Upgrade now to the super spender safety plan for a one off payment of $30k to unlock instant airbag activation”.
I think it’s just an excuse, he has interfered before for no valid reason
Yeah, there’s no way one rich man should have so much geopolitical power.
The dispute isn’t that they’re not allowed to use Starlink for murder drones, it’s that the murder drone plan is more expensive.
SpaceX is not actually supposed to even have direct control over Starshield. It uses Starlink infrastructure, but is a military application that is supposed to be under the control of the federal government.
SpaceX shouldn’t have the option to pitch different plans.
They have been opeque as to whether this is actually starshield or starlink. Elon is not supposed to have any control over starshield - that is supposed to be controlled by the Pentagon.
But also anyone who believes that Musk has no control over Starshield is welcome to start making bids on this Brooklyn Bridge I have for sale
I work in government and have the ability to fuck up people’s lives with 3 mouse clicks. But that doesn’t mean I have the authority to do it.
Tankie much?
What? You think that statement was a negative towards Ukraine?
Mocking the news outlets for making the cutoff seem like they were violating the TOS by using Starlink for drone strikes. But Musk just charges more for that, a lot more. Because you can charge a military almost anything for the same product.
You are simultaneously mocking the free press while also mocking the hardships of people in Ukraine.
When the way you talk is identical to how tankies talk, people are going to call you a tankie.
You called them “murder drones”, like you disapproved of Ukraine using drone warfare in their fight to defend themselves. That’s tankie behavior.
I don’t understand your reaction, all the guy was saying was if Ukraine wants to stream Murder Drones, the hit Australian indie animated web series, then they need to pay Elon more for it. What’s so controversial about that?
You know what’s funny, that’s likely exactly why I plucked that phrase out of my head and now people who know nothing about me are losing their minds over it.
You do understand that it makes Starlink very hard to differentiate from a military system. Starlink has stockholders and a board and Musk is still beholdant to them. What if Russia starts downing the satelites? What then?
btw Starlink has an actual military side. It’s called a “starshield” that is the “murderdrone plan” while starlink is the civilian side with speed limits on recievers and all that. We can’t know what Ukraine really is using or was using and people are discussing that when people in Ukraine and Nato say starlink for Ukraine they mean starshield.
If Starlink wasn’t run by a fascist supremacist corporate dickhead, they’d offer their plan for fucking free, to show their support towards Ukraine. That was the whole fucking point. This was going on right when the US and Europe were offering military and weapons aid.
Instead, Elon Musk took one look at Rule of Acquisition #34 and ran with it. He used it as a PR stunt, and took it away to ask for more money.
If he was not a fascist, like fascist Trump he would be supporting our the fascists in OUR war against fascists Russia and fascist pootin.
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inb4: “fucking tankie”
If Starlink wasn’t run by a fascist… they’d offer their plan for fucking free.
This is capitalism, and SpaceX (aka Starlink) is a publicly traded corporation. It doesn’t matter who is in charge of SpaceX, the CEO will be required to operate in the best interests of the shareholders. Ukraine is not one of those shareholders. Therefore, per your own statement, the CEO of SpaceX will always be a fascist since they’ll prioritize profit over the Ukrainian people.
This is kinda the point “The Tankies” are making.
What if Russia starts downing the satelites? What then?
I fail to see your point. Starshield uses the same satellites.
Yeah, stockholders that had no problems with Ukraine using it until turncoat Trump made a deal with Russia. Only then suddenly they have qualms.
They have qualms when their capital and profits are threatened.
You do know if any country attacks a satelite there will be a flock of countries going to war for a treaty violation? Civilian or not.
You mean west will write strongly worded protest and give more weapons to Ukraine? yeah.
A person I actually wouldn’t mind seeing ICE deport…
Elon the grifter?
Fuck this absolute cunt who’s the biggest drain on society since Nero.
