I could have sworn I read something similar a few weeks ago …
Did you consider the tiny people are always there? The mushroom just lifts the veil from your consciousness, allowing you to see them.
I mean, we absolutely could test this experimentally, depending on the nature of these hypothetical beings.
For example, you could give multiple participants these mushrooms. Bring them into a sealed room one by one. Ask them to report the number of tiny beings around them. Ask them to politely ask the tiny beings to remain where they are.
Imagine if you cycled ten participants through, and each told you there were precisely 11 little humans in the room. With simple methods like this, you could apply statistical hypothesis testing to the results and see if the success rates differs significantly from chance. You absolutely could do real science on this. Science is perfectly capable of testing certain kinds of supernatural claims. Science would have a very hard time trying to determine what happens after death, if anything. But invisible tiny people inhabiting our reality, that we can miraculously see if we do one very specific thing? That’s absolutely testable using the scientific method.
Yes, use scientific method or Sagan’s baloney detection kit! Maybe a study that checks brainwaves to see what areas are active during the experiment and see what happens, measurable things in the tests and in the control group to study it.
Lilliputian hallucinations refer to the perception of small beings, often resembling tiny humans or animals, that appear to interact with the real world. These hallucinations can occur from this shroom, certain neurological disorders and alcohol withdrawal. Lilliputian.
What if each person hallucinates a number of tiny people per square meter so everyone would see equally amount because of the inherent size of the room? What’s the next step to determine they’re real? Different sized rooms?
That was my first thought upon hearing about this. No article on this though has ever said if people see the same exact little people doing the same thing.
Brigadoon shroom
^ This dude is on the shrooms right now.
Welcome to my baseline reality, some take drugs to get here, others to leave here, and the ones that mother gives you, don’t do anything at all
Yes, Jonas, we considered that.
The second season of Common Side Effects is only three months away! I’m not normally that interested in animated shows, but I’m very excited for this one.
If you’ve not seen it, the first (and only, sadly) season of Scavengers Reign is also excellent.
Scavengers Reign is also excellent.
It is! Really a must watch for anyone who likes old European style animated science fiction (Mœbius and the like), I’d say.
Reminded me of The Masters of Time, which I think might have traumatized me a bit after catching it on TV as a (probably too young) kid, and only recently rediscovered, from a YouTube video of all places, after having forgotten about it for decades.
Can the tiny people see us too?
Oooh yes they can…
The difference with them is that they can see us all the time.
Uhh… All the time? Even when I’m…?
I have so many questions, the article focuses on the mushroom builogy and moves past the hallucinations pretty quick. What are these tiny people doing, do they see you, are they people or something else, do you get egfects as other hallucinations or just the tiny people? The effects of LSD and mushrooms are similar enough you recognize the sensation, is this something wholly different? I need answers!
Also, if two people in the same room eat the undercooked mushrooms do they see the same population of little people or different populations of little people. If it’s a shared experience this raises some serious existential questions, otherwise I’d chalk it up to brains are crazy.
I want it so hard to be that everyone is seeing the same thing and those little fools are really there!!!
The animated TV show Common Side Effects has a similar underlying plot with people who take a specific shroom. They haven’t exposed what they do, but everyone who takes it sees them.
Season 2 in late January
I’ve heard DMT described as seeing little cities or a village of workers working away.
I wonder if it’s similar.
I’ll stop short of saying that everyone who describes DMT that way is a fool (drugs can affect people differently, and I’ve never taken it orally so maybe I’m missing something), but the “machine elf” stuff is just nonsense. It’s just your brain making insane fractal patterns that fold in on themselves and shit. It’s pretty cool, but there are no “entities” waiting for you.
Yeah that’s pretty much what I assumed too.
I’ve got my best men on it!
Ive done enough drugs in my life to kill a rhino and in all my trips ive never hallucinated more than visual trails and lights. This has me intrigued.
The most intense hallucination I’ve ever experienced by a wide margin was from salvia, which is legal for some fucking reason. Literally everything I could see and hear wasn’t real. I guess I’m glad I did it but I think I’m not going to do it again. Thankfully is only lasts a few minutes.
Edit: during my trip, I realized that the entire world was passing by in frames just like a movie and I fell out of the frame I was in. I had fallen outside of my dimension and there were a handful of other ramenshaman that had also fallen out and we started desperately trying to crawl back into out frames. Then the universe started folding and I was afraid I was going to be crushed in the crease of the fold.
Man it’s always layers of reality peeling away or something like that with Salvia, I’ve heard that same sort of trip story many times. It’s wild that so many have similar experiences with a hallucinogen.
I was an apple sliding along a tray in a cafeteria.
Follow up from the other comment. That sounds like a good one! Intense as fuck for sure… I got “rolled up in a carpet” as the world unraveled one time.
Well lemon Tek 4.5g if mushrooms and start playing “the wall” album in the dark once you really start to trip and you’ll experience a lot of visuals and feelings. Like, holy hell. I was wore out from the emotional rollercoaster. It also felt like 5 hours went by, even though the album is only like an hour twenty.
Have you ever smoked salvia extract? That will alter reality
I have not and I’m planning to keep it that way
I don’t recommend it unless you are really into/actively exploring psychedelics. My response was directed towards the comment from 11111one11111 specifically. They mentioned trails and lights and figured they may enjoy a few minutes of yarn people and claymation
named after the miniature inhabitants of “Gulliver’s Travels,” who stand just 6 inches tall
Ok, suuuuuper awkward thing to say here but… my penis is precisely one Lilliputian tall, which I understand to be just about average
Also, in Romanian, “puța” means penis
Are there other languages with a similar word for penis? Did Jonathan Swift know this? Was this deliberate? Are the Lilliputians really just “Lil’ dicks” ?
EDIT: Has John Oliver already done this? I feel like John Oliver has already done this
The trip to Lilliput sounds fun. The return trip through the ER, not so much.
MildlyExtremely InterestingIs it hallucination or ability?
Psychedelics are about set and setting. Tell people what they expect to see and they will see that.
Yeah, uh, not so much. I’ve heard of plenty of mushroom and acid trips that I’ve never experienced. Would be nice though, I’d love to know what the color Purple sounds like.
I think it hits people differently. I had a acid trip once where it was an out of body experience. I had like daredevil vision at a pink floyd tribute concert. I could see the entire venue from any perspective from where i was standing. Sounds crazy but that was my experience.
Sure, I’m just saying ive never had some crazy hallucination just because I was expecting to.
How could a chemical agent control the hallucination so specifically? I mean, distorting perception of size makes sense, but tiny colorful people?
A lot of drugs have common shared experiences. It’s why you know it’s nothing but turtles all the way down.
Really very few of them when you consider how many drugs there are. Shared experiences can be similar, but rarely duplicate details like lots of tiny, brightly colorful people. I mean, two friends who just saw a monster movie together could both hallucinate the monster, but this isn’t going to happen to diverse groups living far apart.
is there like local stories about those tiny humans that could influence people mind?
Or again, it doesn’t give hallucinations but just the ability to see the tiny people, that’s the most logical conclusion!
Pretty sure I heard this on either No Such Thing As A Fish, QI or maybe even Lateral…
