Damned! I was about to go to bed and instead I read that thread. Now I won’t have my 8 hours… :(
My new place creaks a lot. My roommate paces the house all night and doesn’t sleep. Which means I don’t sleep.
I sleep fine. It’s waking that’s hard. If it’s not when my body wants to wake, I hate life for the first sixish hours of the day. Doesn’t matter if I had 3 hours or 10.
The most fantastical part of dungeons and dragons is the 8h long rest that heals you up and gives you all your skills back.
Laughs in chronic fatigue
Sleeps 3 hours - tired
Sleeps 6 hours - tired
Sleeps 8 hours - tired
Sleeps 10 hours - tired
Sleeps 12 hours - tired
Sleeps 18 hours - tired
Sleeps 20 hours - maybe operational for 30 minutes
People: “YoU hAvE tO dO sPoRtS!1!1”
I sleep better and have more energy when I exercise, and it sucks.
I don’t, it sucks. I’m purely working out for vanity reasons and it’s not even helping me sleep lol
I got treated for sleep apnea, got treatment for my chronic insomnia, I stay off my electronics for at least an hour before bed, I don’t have any caffeine except a cup of coffee in the morning, and all that and I still get god awful sleep and wake up feeling like shit.
Might be depression my guy
Do you fuck with white noise or dark curtains? I got surgery for sleep apnea but lowkey white noise and dark curtains made way more of an impact on my quality of sleep. Ignore if unhelpful
I have once (1) woken up feeling completely refreshd and ready for the day without any chemical assistance and I still feel revolted thinking that that’s normal for some people.
That’s me every day. Sleep like a baby every night.
As a bonus, I have a bizarre talent of being able to wake up exactly when I need to. I always wake up before my alarm, even when I set it for earlier than usual.
I had that for one summer. Consistently waking 10 minutes before my alarm. So consistently that I stopped bothering to even set an alarm.
It was great, right up until the clocks went back and I was left waking up over an hour before I needed to.
Weirdly, the only way I found to break the cycle was to start setting an alarm.
Disgusting
(…ly jealous, please teach me your ways)
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Sometimes you really do just have narcolepsy or another incurable “your sleep is fucked” disorder though. So don’t feel like it’s a personal failing if every doctor you speak to shrugs and tells you to just deal with it
I get that every time I go to bed at around 5-7 AM and wake up 5-8 hours later. Try it
But also
Get tested for sleep apnea, that makes you feel more tired after sleeping
I’m like 90% sure I don’t have sleep apnea, top tip tho.
I only get that after a night of binge drinking. So for better or for worse, like maybe twice a year. But that’s definitely chemical assistance lol
I did my share of binge drinking when I was younger, all it ever did was ruin my sleep.
If you have trouble sleeping but don’t have an obvious medical causes for it, I highly recommend simply abstaining from caffeine entirely (sub for decaf) and try reading for an hour before bed, no phone usage. It’s miraculous how much of a difference it makes. I still sometimes have caffeine as a treat on the weekends, but only before noon.
People who think they’re 100% fine if they drink it before 2pm should check out how half life works. Not the game, the pharmaceutical concept. It’s super interesting.
Since it compounds, if you drink one cup in the morning, you will still have roughly 13% of that caffeine in your body at midnight. Both from the morning coffee, and the dregs over the last week. And that’s if your body processes it at an average speed; some people have a long half life of 10 hours, and the math gets crazy. You end up with like 40% of a coffee in your blood at midnight, and it’s a wonder why you can’t sleep!
Unless your brain gets a calming and mellowing effect from caffeine. Many ADHD people have that. Personally, I sleep very well to better with a little bit of caffeine but I can drink a Bang or other high caffeine energy drink and still zonk out without any struggles and sleep comfortably. It doesn’t stop my sleep, but can help me be awake if I want to.
(Half life still exists, I’m just talking about the whole “can’t sleep with caffeine” thing)
Adderall too. My buddy with ADHD would take his right before a nap lol
Same here for the most part, and I’ve been told a few times that it might be a sign of ADHD. I also have a low resting heart rate (low 40s), and I wonder if that plays a role.
I used to have barychardia too but only in the low 50s. Got it down to 30 once during an experiment in my oceanography class. That was actually kinda painful.
When you finally get 8 hours of sleep and it genuinely starts making sense why they recommend it
When you finally get 8 hours of sleep and it genuinely starts making sense why they recommend it
I get 8 hours sleep and consistently feel tired and awful every time. 10 hours, 6 hours, far better experiences.
You want to try waking up at a multiple of 90 minutes, or using an alarm that wakes you up in line with your sleep cycles. Eight hours usually wakes you up in the middle of deep sleep
90 minutes is the average sleep cycle, but it varies between people. Some need to find their own cycle time. Phone apps that use the accelerometer to detect tossing and turning can help with that.
E.g. “sleep as android”, best app I ever bought
since i quit caffiene i went from 9 hours of sleep and feeling tired all day to 6 and a half hours of sleep and feeling fine
Oh shit…well good luck…I have insomnia everyday🥺
Tell that to a hot flash
I feel better with 7 or 9 hours of sleep. I I get 8, I feel terrible.
I just started using that feature on some smart watches that wakes you up when you’re in light sleep within 30 minutes of your alarm, and DANG–game changer, seriously. For the last few mornings I’ve woken up feeling better after six hours of sleep than on a lot of mornings where I’ve had a hard wakeup after nine.
EDIT: It’s called “Smart Wake” on Android and Garmin watches, it’s an app like “AutoWake” for Apple Watch, and it’s “Smart Alarm” for Pebble.
Sleep as Android is good too
When I was looking into this a while back, iirc the only way you could use that one for free was on a phone and the watch version had a subscription. I kind of need it to be on my wrist so that I don’t wake up my wife, and I’m not going to pay a subscription fee for an alarm clock.
I wouldn’t know
