• Napster153@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    To be apolitical in a democracy is an oxymoron and, at worst, a sign of willfull, deliberate ignorance.

    A system intended for citizen participation in governance must have a politically conscious citizenry.

    There’s people who are uneducated on the matter, and people who are educated, but choose ignorance. The latter is one of the worst forms of cruelty.

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    9 days ago

    I’ve been on dating apps the last few years and while I always swipe left for Conservative, I also say fuck no to anyone Apolitical.

    In these times anyone who supports or is ambivalent to the madness in our country is a shit person that I want nothing to do with.

    Take a stand, pick a side or fuck right off.

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      9 days ago

      there was this clip of some kind of like dating show/bar event thing? Basically two people speed/blind date on stage and the audience waves green/red flags based on the conversation. Neat concept…

      Anyways, man and woman go up and one of the first questions she asks is “who did you vote for?” and dude just shrinks. Does this whole “politics aren’t that important to me” and then “I didn’t vote”. And in the crowd all of the women are raising red flags. Because yea… they know what that signals.

      In a later round another womans asks the same thing, and guy is like “that’s a personal thing” and “I don’t feel comfortable talking about it”… red flags going up.

      This dipshits KNOW their poltical views are toxic to women. And instead of owning it, they’re trying to pretend to be “apolitical” because no woman will fuck them.

      EDIT: I found the clip/vid.

      Also, just realized, it’s the same guy. So first lady he’s like “I didn’t vote” and then later is like “okay I voted, but I don’t wanna say”… everyone knows bro… and that you’re still tryna hide/lie about it to get laid is pathetic.

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        8 days ago

        Yup, they’re cowards on top of everything else. Can’t even stand up for what they purportedly believe in.

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      8 days ago

      You do realize most people can’t really afford to care about politics right? When you’ve got people to care for, a job to work, a house to maintain, hobbies to participate in to keep a sane mind, how much time do you really have to spend on politics? Because whatever amount that is, it’s not enough. All sides spend a huge amount on propaganda and to see through all that takes more effort than normal people can spare.

      Besides, there are far more important things you could focus on other than politics. That might depend on where you live and how old you are, but most people out there just don’t see the effect of politics beyond the occasional headline and higher taxes/inflation. Why not then spend the time you would spend on politics doing something that has an actual impact?

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    9 days ago

    “I don’t do politics.”

    Well baby, politics is going to do you, regardless.

    –Nina Turner

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      In some sense, kinda big of him to admit that he’s been privileged and unaffected so far? I feel like many like Dave think they are victims of anti-white anti-straight anti-male agenda or some bs.

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        he’s not aware that he’s admitting anything. he’s complaining that it’s finally happened

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    I don’t think those who “don’t do politics” are privileged. Many simply easily feel depressed hearing of bad news and literally tune out of the constant news cycle. But as others have pointed out, regardless of the reason for not doing politics, politics eventually do them. Plato once said that not being engaged in politics is letting inferiors rule over them. And oh boy, the world is experiencing first hand being ruled over by manbabies.

    Edit: it was Plato not Socrates who made the statement

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      Some people also just get scared at arguing even if its friendly, because it reminds them of their parents and brings up trauma.

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      It is rooted in a form of privilege though to be able to just tune it out because it’s depressing

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    Sometimes it’s just not worth arguing with people. Certainly not if it’s the fifth time that week or something. That shit gets exhausting.

    Also, you’re allowed to simply not give a ahit on some things. We’ve all got our own shit do deal with without needing to form an informed opinion on every other thing that might be happening somewhwre in the world.

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      Yeah, when I say I don’t do politics, it’s not because I don’t care about the problems or they don’t affect me, it’s because I’m tired of talking about it, I have enough other shit in my life that’s stressing me out and it’s not going to do anything anyway.

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    8 days ago

    I’m a white male with depression and a long standing medical issue that has consumed my life (Water on the brain… I have had so many surgeries and stays in hospital)

    I still say fuck Israel, Fuck everyone that loves Israel!

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    I’m starting to understand “I don’t do politics.” to often mean “I don’t have the mental aptitude for political discourse and have spent a significant amount of my life becoming educated on other subjects or otherwise being unintellectual about most subjects.” I feel it’s a little more acceptable that way. Some people are just not that smart or have not invested much time in politics or current world affairs. It usually means, they feel inadequate discussing the subject with you.

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      They’re terrified that if they think about it too much or learn too much about it that they will have their mind changed and be alienated by their family/friends/communities.

      Some are just incredibly stupid, but I’d say most are just fucking cowards.

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        You’re seeing fear and cowardice where there is none. Nobody is “scared” of learning about politics.

        To make such an assumption is… odd.

        So, why are you so afraid?

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          So, why are you so afraid?

          I’m not afraid to learn about politics and challenging the ideals of the people around me, which is more than I can say for the magats who live in fear of daddy not loving them anymore when they tell him Trump is a moron.

          You don’t think these people are scared? I do. I think they’re terrified. I’m not so sure why you’re defending magats, though.

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      Part of politics are like this. Like when you hear about people in white house doing terrible things. And you’re like who is this guy? “Oh he’s the secretary of defense.” What’s that mean? And soon it feels like if someone was trying to teach me about the people in Keeping up with the Kardashians. Or some other reality show.

      But then other ones are like…We are cutting funding for poor people and welfare. And that should be cut and dry.

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      Teeny weenie bit hyperbolic, dont you think? By that logic, politicians are the greatest geniuses that ever walked the earth. People don’t bother with politics to avoid assholes that can’t shut up about it.

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        I never said that at all… I said literally nothing about politicians and I said nothing to suggest it’s the most intelligent subject. You made that context up all on your own. I said that many people who don’t talk politics don’t for the exact same reason you might not talk about computers with someone who knows a lot about computers. You might also avoid conversation about gardening with someone who has kept gardens for years. It’s not necessarily because of a lack of intelligence (though in some cases it is) but most likely just not the subject matter they have the most knowledge of. Not everyone can spend the time immersing themselves in all the subject matter you have and politics is just another subject.

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          To be fair it reads like you heavily correlate being political, to intellectual.

          By that logic more political = more intelligent.

          I understand you didn’t mean it that way, but it’s not hard to see why someone would assume that.

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            I feel like that’s a flawed understanding of what intelligence is. You can be smart regarding some things and braindead with others. Intelligence is not linear where all particular subject matter just comes with having high intellect.

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              I completely agree.

              That’s why I disagree with your initial suggestion that someone who “doesn’t do politics” probably “doesn’t have the mental aptitude for it”.

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    So glad all the time and effort everybody has been putting in to end the genocide in Gaza has finally paid off… and Trump was convicted, so glad he didn’t get a second term… and those Epstein files. Glad all those pedo’s are in jail or dead now.

    Sometimes you just gotta take a break from it all. The average citizen doesn’t have much power in small numbers. If some movement is gonna get big enough to actually effect change, you won’t miss it.

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    Ironically at this point the circle of people that are affected is so big, that to be apolitical you are either a moron or at least a multimillionaire.

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      A good deal of people have responsibilities that are much more important than politics; while you’re reading HuffPo they may be, for example, cleaning an elderly parent who just vomited… everywhere.

      People’s days can be very full, barely able to drag themselves into bed, even nodding out at the dinner table.

      Morons? If you’re very fortunate, you’ll never learn how oblivious you are. Good luck.

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        Circles back to the moron point. Not doing anything to try and make better is on you if you stick your head in the ground.

        My marriage is falling apart. I’ll focus on work. That will fix it.

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    9 days ago

    It could also be “If I told you my actual politics, you’d realise what a vile person I am and leave”.