There’s too many people in this world to say “I’m just going to…”
I recommend checking out Nate Hagens Youtube channel “The Great Simplification.” He’s been working on this for years and his videos are brilliant. Here’s a few good ones I randomly picked as starting points:
How might daily life feel in the next decades? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlkAeQ5xdeQ
Protect the irreversible - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMfzVhTWMDM
How to play 5D chess - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPctKcmnTvQ
And his most recent one, 4 things we can’t afford to get wrong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONtWQjRa0GY
I know recommending videos sucks, who the hell has half an hour to watch a video suggested by an internet stranger? But this guy is the goods in my opinion, he’s worth a listen and I hope at least one person checks him out.
The amount of excess food will go way down and the price will go up, which will mostly affect third world countries. A lot of people will starve at the beginning.
Couple this with clean water scarcity that will exasperate diseases and the human population will drop toward sustainable numbers.Now, you’re trying to say that’s what would happen should there be this massive shortage (there is, but typically people online don’t explore the failsafes and contingencies that are at our disposal), or are you straight up trying to naturalize an ecofascist futurity here?
I don’t fully understand your question, but I did not consider mitigating actions and stated a possible worst case. Fossil fuel based fertilizer is not the only game in town, but it is the cheapest. EVs are already starting to replace ICE cars in many places. Renewable energy production grows every year, even of it is impacted by a drop in hydro. It does not have to be a bleak future.
I am not sure how the lack of fresh water can be avoided, but there many be some new processes for desalination I don’t know about.I was asking if you understood that this narrative is harmful if accepted uncritically. That you considered technology solutions exclusively is a great indicator that this may be the case. We have technology solutions to this now, that isn’t why it isn’t fixed. Your comment reproduces a narrative that suffering in the global south is inevitable because of climate change, and not another avoidable, unnecessary act of genocide by this colonial, capitalist system. It is the social and material relations of this system that perpetrates that violence, not technological deficiencies.
When we just accept that there is no avoiding or mitigating events like, “a lot of people” starving in colonized spaces, and then promote technological utopianism as a solution (even if inadvertently by only imagining tech as a solution), we are naturalizing the root cause of this violence, which is colonialism. Doesn’t seem like you intended it, but this is also a markedly ecofascist narrative in the way that the inevitability of that death also means that it is a prescribed trajectory for this system to take to “improvement,” much in the same way that fascists precribe the removal (genocide) of an arbitrary group of people in the metropole (US or EU) as a solution to inequities there.
Edit: and of course, Lemmy libs get mad if I tell them they don’t have to subscribe to fascist ideas if they don’t want to.
Please stop gatekeeping and putting words in my mouth
I’m not doing either of those things (I’m not even sure what I could be gatekeeping here, political philosophy?). Your words carried this meaning whether you wanted them to or not, which is why I carefully explained how that meaning relates to the specific ideas you promoted. If you do not want them to carry this meaning, just take the time to interrogate how you arrived at this understanding and how it relates to your understanding of other things in the future.
Then Sally Struthers will ask you to donate “the price of a daily cup of coffee” and 1/1000 people will start giving $2000 per year to feed the hungry…
There’s not such a massive difference between where we are now and where we need to be to disconnect from fossil fuels
- More meals will be vegetarian
- Food selection will be more seasonal and local
- More people will work from home or take public transit or bike
- More people will have kitchen gardens
- More farmers will use permaculture techniques to reduce input fertilizer needs
- More humanure will be collected and used as fertilizer
- More solar panels will produce more power for home heat pumps to keep buildings comfortable
- More farmers will have electric tractors and farm batteries
Might have to go vegan and reduce the amount of resources needed to support a person to a sustainable level. Scary stuff
Starve
We can make fuel from air using the Fischer-Tropsch Process. It’s basically the “bad guy reaction” that countries use when the world cuts them out of the oil supply. Like Germany during ww2.
But for a more hopeful take. Maybe we will be less reliant on gas. And there’s plenty of stuff we can use as fertilizer
This. We need to prepare for a world where we will be spending the bulk of our income on basic commodities that are currently still cheap.
There are many ways to fertilise soil and many ways to create energy.
Suffer.
Light shit on fire
So all the stuff that comes out from the butt? With so many giant assholes in the government we clearly don’t need to worry about that 😅
